Poland on Friday approved a law making chemical castration mandatory for pedophiles in some cases, sparking criticism from human rights groups.

Under the law, sponsored by Poland's center-right government, pedophiles convicted of raping children under the age of 15 years or a close relative would have to undergo chemical therapy on their release from prison.

"The purpose of this action is to improve the mental health of the convict, to lower his libido and thereby to reduce the risk of another crime being committed by the same person," the government said in a statement.

Prime Minister Donald Tusk said late last year he wanted obligatory castration for pedophiles, whom he branded 'degenerates'. Tusk said he did not believe "one can use the term 'human' for such individuals, such creatures."

"Therefore I don't think protection of human rights should refer to these kind of events," Tusk also said.

His remarks drew criticism from human rights groups but he never retracted them.

"Introducing any mandatory treatment raises doubts as such a requirement is never reasonable and life can always produce cases that lawmakers could never have even dreamt of," said Piotr Kladoczny from the Helsinki Foundation of Human Rights.

"If somebody is of sound mind, we punish him. If he is sick, we try to cure him -- that's how it works in Polish law. This bill introduces both approaches. As far as I know, this makes our law the strictest in Europe on this issue," Kladoczny said.

The bill, which also increases prison sentences for rape and incest, must still be approved by the upper chamber of parliament. This is seen as a formality as Tusk's Civic Platform party holds a majority of its 100 seats.

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Total win.

Siege of Tobruk - One German POW said: "I cannot understand you Australians. In Poland, France, and Belgium, once the tanks got through the soldiers took it for granted that they were beaten. But you are like demons. The tanks break through and your infantry still keep fighting." Rommel wrote of seeing "a batch of some fifty or sixty Australian prisoners ... marched off close behind usimmensely big and powerful men, who without question represented an elite formation of the British Empire, a fact that was also evident in battle."


"As a Internet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."

Congratulations Poland. Poland is cool and should annex western Europe - I'll be there in 2010!

Here they are discussing if chemical castration is enough for pedophiles because some people say that without their "manhood" they will simply use tools and other kinds of violence towards children. What do you think?

Wanna make a bet the EU will make Poland withdraw the law?

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Great for Poland!

But I'm afraid the poster above is correct: the EU will not allow this



When I was young I used to pray for a bike, then I realized that God doesn't work that way, so I stole a bike and prayed for forgiveness.

now here is a step in the right direction

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they claimed castration will lower the libido and thus reducing the urges. i'm not going to argue whether child molesters are bigger sexual perverts in nature if compared to serial rapists but i think castrating the fella will also take away his rights to enjoy normal sexual relationship. for all you know, he is not a serial rapist or serial molester who is a bigger threat.

technicality aside, i think its better to try rehabilitation first. if he is a repeat offender after going through all the process, then i think its far more better to kill him instead rather than castrating him.

"technicality aside, i think its better to try rehabilitation first. if he is a repeat offender after going through all the process, then i think its far more better to kill him instead rather than castrating him."

ok, so a minimum of 2 children raped before a harsh punishment is handed out?

in cases where there is no doubt to guilt, if this policy was adopted in australia, I would be happy.

I don't even care if it reduces their libido or not. should have their cocks guillotined too.


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Freedom is never free.

come to think of it, you're right. there's no real need for rehabilitation. just kill the fella.

Here they are discussing if chemical castration is enough for pedophiles because some people say that without their "manhood" they will simply use tools and other kinds of violence towards children. What do you think?

Being castrated (chemically or otherwise) means less testosterone being released into the blood, meaning of all things, less aggression.

Either way, these guys forfeit any right to talk about human rights when they took away someone else's rights first, specifically those who need the most protecting.

Wanna make a bet the EU will make Poland withdraw the law?

Yeah, I feel that might happen too.

Siege of Tobruk - One German POW said: "I cannot understand you Australians. In Poland, France, and Belgium, once the tanks got through the soldiers took it for granted that they were beaten. But you are like demons. The tanks break through and your infantry still keep fighting." Rommel wrote of seeing "a batch of some fifty or sixty Australian prisoners ... marched off close behind usimmensely big and powerful men, who without question represented an elite formation of the British Empire, a fact that was also evident in battle."


"As a Internet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."

This is messed up. This just proves Poland doesn't belong to the West but the East. It starts with pedophiles, then rapists and finally to anyone with a history of violence.

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De Gaulle to the General Koenig, Norman hero of Bir Hakeim: "Hear and tell your troops: the whole of France is watching you, you are our pride."[

Theres a reason why we here in Europe got rid from punishments like this over the last centuries.

Don't worry French dude, when in 50 years France is under Sharia law Poland will shine as a beacon of enlightened liberalism by comparison. lol.

F.uck an eye for an eye. You take my eye, and I will kill you, and all those you care about. That is our policy.

technicality aside, i think its better to try rehabilitation first. if he is a repeat offender after going through all the process, then i think its far more better to kill him instead rather than castrating him.
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I've read somewhere, though I can't provide you with a source, that at the very best rehab works for 1/3 of the patients. Just to make sure you understand: for 67% it doesn't work!



When I was young I used to pray for a bike, then I realized that God doesn't work that way, so I stole a bike and prayed for forgiveness.

"Theres a reason why we here in Europe got rid from punishments like this over the last centuries."


yeah. so that europe's paedophiles can go elsewhere and not bother the good europeans with their brand of fetishes. try siam.

"I've read somewhere, though I can't provide you with a source, that at the very best rehab works for 1/3 of the patients. Just to make sure you understand: for 67% it doesn't work!".


don't worry. i'm sure for some jail terms, community time, fines, don't work either. so what would work? the polish thinks castration is a good start. i thought initially that castration would be ineffective as peodophiles are sex offenders driven by lust towards children i.e. the driving force is not really sex. but rather their mental state. castrating them will perhaps lower their libido towards sex, but maybe not towards children. they can still abuse children by other means. and since perhaps 67% doesn't work, maybe the polish can just kill them off just to be sure.

This is messed up. This just proves Poland doesn't belong to the West but the East. It starts with pedophiles, then rapists and finally to anyone with a history of violence.

You know, I'm glad I heard that. The French have become such a bunch of pussy footed retards I don't care much for what they say any more. If it was up to France, Poland would also swing open the doors to Muslims and other immigrants to be 'progressive' and 'western'. I hope Poland stays away from what France calls 'Western', being Western doesn't mean being nice to paedophiles or being overly liberal on every issue to the point of nausea.

i thought initially that castration would be ineffective as peodophiles are sex offenders driven by lust towards children i.e. the driving force is not really sex. but rather their mental state.

Isn't that the same argument at trying to 'rehabilitate' homosexuals? The difference is paedophiles are driven by sexual urges towards children as much as a rapist is to dominance over females or males in general. This is a state, in case of males, driven by testosterone produced in the testis. Take that away, and there is far less chance they'll have a desire to act out compared to mental discipline. All 'mental states' are hormonal or chemically driven, but the difference between a homosexual and paedophile is one is clearly hurting someone's else's rights.

A good portion of sex offenders are repeat offenders, I dunno about you, but I prefer castrating them chemically then have them get out of jail ten years later and rape again, then thrown back into jail. Notice as men get older their sex drives wain, this also includes rapists and paedophiles.

Siege of Tobruk - One German POW said: "I cannot understand you Australians. In Poland, France, and Belgium, once the tanks got through the soldiers took it for granted that they were beaten. But you are like demons. The tanks break through and your infantry still keep fighting." Rommel wrote of seeing "a batch of some fifty or sixty Australian prisoners ... marched off close behind usimmensely big and powerful men, who without question represented an elite formation of the British Empire, a fact that was also evident in battle."


"As a Internet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."

You know, I'm glad I heard that. The French have become such a bunch of pussy footed retards I don't care much for what they say any more. If it was up to France, Poland would also swing open the doors to Muslims and other immigrants to be 'progressive' and 'western'. I hope Poland stays away from what France calls 'Western', being Western doesn't mean being nice to paedophiles or being overly liberal on every issue to the point of nausea.

I don't know what is worse, liberals or barbaric Poles: just different type of puke if you ask me. Don't come bitching around when they start castrate you after an underage skank falsely accuse you. And how do you know a girl is below or above the legal age of consent if she lies to you? Poland is nothing, just another dying country with negative growth that is not important enough to care about. You might as well embrace that mental illness that is Islam. They like to stone adulteress.

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De Gaulle to the General Koenig, Norman hero of Bir Hakeim: "Hear and tell your troops: the whole of France is watching you, you are our pride."[

Listen, I don't care what you have to say about 'barbaric Poles' when you're own ancestral country men would rather become a new form of Algeria or fill the world with more Left Wing students that want 'progressiveness' which ironically is silencing anyone who thinks differently. Would rather a rapist (which most paedophiles are) get a second chance to rape again then punish him for raping. That is the 'Western' world according to France, lets give everyone a second chance, works in foreign relations too (hope you you grasp that one).

And how do you know a girl is below or above the legal age of consent if she lies to you?

Obviously you don't realise it isn't an automatic punishment, but one handed down through the trial system, right? Of course, you would use this defence, comparing an animal who rapes a 12 year old to someone who accidentally sleeps with a 16 year old due to a lie. Obviously the same scenario.

just another dying country with negative growth that is not important enough to care about

It will be once your nation has resorted to barbaric sharia law and gone into civil war while Poland retains some sanity. Hope that multiculturalism is working out for you. Mohammed and Bashir will be French names soon.

You might as well embrace that mental illness that is Islam.

Coming from a Frenchmen, that is a total laugh and a half. Keep deluding yourself to the 'secularised' French Muslims who would rather dodge military service, burn your cities and live off your hard earned money then sing La Marseillaise.

But then again, you live in Australia, for such a nationalistic Frenchmen.

Siege of Tobruk - One German POW said: "I cannot understand you Australians. In Poland, France, and Belgium, once the tanks got through the soldiers took it for granted that they were beaten. But you are like demons. The tanks break through and your infantry still keep fighting." Rommel wrote of seeing "a batch of some fifty or sixty Australian prisoners ... marched off close behind usimmensely big and powerful men, who without question represented an elite formation of the British Empire, a fact that was also evident in battle."


"As a Internet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."

Listen, I don't care what you have to say about 'barbaric Poles' when you're own ancestral country men would rather become a new form of Algeria or fill the world with more Left Wing students that want 'progressiveness' which ironically is silencing anyone who thinks differently.

Do you have any stat to back that New Algeria theory? I dare you come up with any credible stat that shows France is gonna turn in some Arab country any time soon? If you don't, I'd have to assume this piece of information popped out a place where the light never shine.

Would rather a rapist (which most paedophiles are) get a second chance to rape again then punish him for raping. That is the 'Western' world according to France, lets give everyone a second chance, works in foreign relations too (hope you you grasp that one).

I'm certainly not a liberal, but I consider any prisoner as resource. If someone is guilty of rape, make him works all his life to compensate the victim...work under penitentiary control.


Obviously you don't realise it isn't an automatic punishment, but one handed down through the trial system, right? Of course, you would use this defence, comparing an animal who rapes a 12 year old to someone who accidentally sleeps with a 16 year old due to a lie. Obviously the same scenario.

It's all the ****ing same. Poles mentally live in the 20th century and they'll abuse the system sooner or later.


It will be once your nation has resorted to barbaric sharia law and gone into civil war while Poland retains some sanity. Hope that multiculturalism is working out for you. Mohammed and Bashir will be French names soon.

Coming from a Frenchmen, that is a total laugh and a half. Keep deluding yourself to the 'secularised' French Muslims who would rather dodge military service, burn your cities and live off your hard earned money then sing La Marseillaise.

Listen carefully, Poland was, is and will be nothing, while France is forever, always falling and rising like a Phenix. Anyone needs an enemy and Islam is that enemy!



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De Gaulle to the General Koenig, Norman hero of Bir Hakeim: "Hear and tell your troops: the whole of France is watching you, you are our pride."[

Dude, France is no Phoenix, at the moment she is a huge whore opening her legs to all and sundry from every corner of the third world. And she is a whore who likes rough play, cause whenever the darkie pimps burn cars, rape, attack police, her response is to reward, reward, reward. lol. This ho is a total loss, mark my words, 50 years from now at the most there will be no difference between Rouen and Rabat.

F.uck an eye for an eye. You take my eye, and I will kill you, and all those you care about. That is our policy.

>>>>>>>This is messed up. This just proves Poland doesn't belong to the West but the East. It starts with pedophiles, then rapists and finally to anyone with a history of violence.<<<<<<<< <br>


Whatever works.




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Dude, France is no Phoenix, at the moment she is a huge whore opening her legs to all and sundry from every corner of the third world. And she is a whore who likes rough play, cause whenever the darkie pimps burn cars, rape, attack police, her response is to reward, reward, reward. lol. This ho is a total loss, mark my words, 50 years from now at the most there will be no difference between Rouen and Rabat.

I'll ring a bell when I need the opinion of a skinny skinhead.


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De Gaulle to the General Koenig, Norman hero of Bir Hakeim: "Hear and tell your troops: the whole of France is watching you, you are our pride."[

Do you have any stat to back that New Algeria theory? I dare you come up with any credible stat that shows France is gonna turn in some Arab country any time soon? If you don't, I'd have to assume this piece of information popped out a place where the light never shine.

You claimed Poland will die cause of negative growth. Show me where negative growth for 10 years equates death of a nation. Difference is while France has strong organic growth (So I have read, though who is producing this organic growth is open to debate), it also has a high immigration rate from degenerate North African nations.

I'm certainly not a liberal, but I consider any prisoner as resource. If someone is guilty of rape, make him works all his life to compensate the victim...work under penitentiary control.

Wait, so you want hard labour and call the Poles barbaric for castration? Bit hypocritical since that punishment is a ancient one.

It's all the ****ing same. Poles mentally live in the 20th century and they'll abuse the system sooner or later.

How do they live in the 20th century? I would like to see where you pulled this gem of information, possibly from where the sun don't shine?

Listen carefully, Poland was, is and will be nothing, while France is forever, always falling and rising like a Phenix. Anyone needs an enemy and Islam is that enemy!

France is forever and a Phoenix? Poland is indestructible in that case. It has survived the most vicious, barbaric nations and policies to have ever existed, kept its culture, language and people alive and is now reborn free. In 20 years time Poland will be on the verge of being a Korea or Japan, it is inevitable, since the hard sciences and maths are more important in Poland then the West.

Siege of Tobruk - One German POW said: "I cannot understand you Australians. In Poland, France, and Belgium, once the tanks got through the soldiers took it for granted that they were beaten. But you are like demons. The tanks break through and your infantry still keep fighting." Rommel wrote of seeing "a batch of some fifty or sixty Australian prisoners ... marched off close behind usimmensely big and powerful men, who without question represented an elite formation of the British Empire, a fact that was also evident in battle."


"As a Internet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."