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Frenulum Breve Question

August 9 2007 at 2:41 AM
Cyrus7 

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Hi I'm 18, and I just recently found that I thought I had Phimosis, but infact upon further research i found i actually have Frenulum Breve. I had pulled back on my foreskin many times before, and noticed that it was really tight under the head of my penis. At first I thought all uncircumcised penises were like that, but I began to wonder about sex and how uncomfortable it would be to use a condom, in my current situation.

I can easily move back the foreskin when flaccid, but when I have an erection although I can pull the foreskin back, it is very tight, and thats when I noticed that there was something wrong. When pulled back with an erection it looks much like this photo

Like I said I was concerned over wearing a condom with my condition, because for uncircumcised penises it is recommended to pull back the foreskin when putting on the condom, and as you know, it is tight and very uncomfortable for me.

I have tried masturbating with the foreskin pulled back with an erection, trying to ignore the tightness, but I it hurt, and I just couldn't orgasm, which troubled me.

Lastly I read in other forums that some guys with frenulum breve have had sex and tore their frenulum, resulting in scaring and bleeding, which I would like to avoid. I also heard theres a surgical procedure called frenuloplasty which is the cutting and restitching of the frenulum, which i also would like to avoid, in case theres some other way to fix my problem.

I also wasn't sure if other posts that talked about "stretches" would help my current dilema, so any replies would be greatly appreciated. Thanks a lot.

 
    
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Jim

Not a new problem

August 9 2007, 8:30 AM 

We've addressed this situation many times before, so you should be able to find details by reading some of the former threads.

The frenulum responds well to stretching because it is a continuation of the frenar band which is stretched for retraction. However, the frenulum is a slippery little guy who evades grasping.

I suggest doing as follows for starters:



As you gain more mobility, we can advise other methods of attack.


 
    
Cyrus7

Re: Not a new problem

August 9 2007, 12:00 PM 

How often should I stretch? Or how long do i hold it at a time? because yeah it somehow manages to slip through my grip, also what other stretching methods do I try later? Sorry for all the questions, but will doing this avoid me getting any type of surgery? Thanks a lot, when I first found about having frenulum breve i was so worried, but i read over some threads in this forum and it's really calmed me down, you guys are great.

 
    
Jim

Sorry about the brevity

August 9 2007, 3:54 PM 

I was in a big hurry earlier.

Ok, let's get to it. Do it often. This one is easy, so you can do it throughout the day. Each time you pee, take a moment to stretch as shown. Do it religiously each morning and each evening. During those two times, hold it stretched for a few minutes.

Right now, you are limited to this exercise unless you can grasp both ends of the frenulum. That's where things get really slippery. Try it to see if you can. If not, use the one illustrated.

Yes, you should be able to avoid any surgery. I suggest that you avoid other websites where advice comes from those without much experience. There's a myth floating around out there which claims that the frenulum won't respond to stretching. Well, we've proven it wrong here. We'll try not to lead you astray, and in return, you promise not to use excessive force. If it hurts, back off.

Great? Thanks. However, we're just a couple of guy who care that you get some straight answers. If it works for you, pass it on.

 
    
Cyrus7

Re: Frenulum Breve Question

August 9 2007, 5:32 PM 

Alrighty great, thanks alot for the help. I feel much more relaxed, and i'm not in a hurry to stretch it out, but i'll be doing it several times like u suggested daily. I'll try to update you then on my progress.

any idea how long it'll take, before i can comfortably pull it back? thanks

 
    
Jim

Not long

August 9 2007, 9:58 PM 

Someone to whom I recommended this regimen had complete success in about a month. My guess is that it could take up to three months, depending upon your diligence.

 
    

And as always,

August 9 2007, 10:00 PM 

Many of the things you mention are true to some extent, but there are a few "tricks" to it.

If you look like that picture, then you do indeed have a short frænulum - so-called Frænulum Breve, which is a sort of "medicalised" term which could convey an unfortunate implication that there was something wrong which required a "medical treatment" - such as surgery.

And indeed, surgery is commonly offered for it; for an adult such as yourself, this is never a "hospital" procedure and would never require a general anaesthetic. I mention this as it would appear a number of men have been misled into accepting such an offer only to find that the surgeon had always intended to perform a circumcision instead on the absurd pretext that "when we got to it, it was the only way to fix it".

So much for the scary bit!

Firstly a clarification. In that picture, it is obvious that to cause the glans to bend down, considerable force is being applied to pull the foreskin tight (you can see the two fingers gripping it on the shaft). Either that, or the erection is not entirely firm, so that the glans is more mobile.

I have no doubt that pulling the foreskin back that firmly, and masturbating in such fashion (presumably using a "stroke" that alternately moves the foreskin over the glans and then pulls it right back) could be uncomfortable with a tight frænulum. The question is whether there is any need to do so; clearly for masturbation it is only one option and you are equally free to use a "stroke" which simply does not pull the foreskin back so vigorously for the present.

But of course, you are worried about intercourse. There are two aspects here and you most wisely focus first on the use of a condom.

Well, I have to suspect that the information provided with condoms focuses on what one would call the "lowest common denominator" and in fact, manufacture (or ownership of the companies) may be in countries where circumcision is the more common.

The answer regarding application of the condom is that basically, you put the condom on so that it covers all of the penis. There is some logic to pulling the foreskin back as far as it readily goes where by "readily", I mean as far as is comfortable.

Here's the trick: It's all about lubrication - in fact, sex is all about lubrication. You're a very lucky fellow, because you have a foreskin, and a foreskin provides "automatic lubrication" for basic masturbation and to the extent that it works properly, for intercourse.

You know this bit about "pre-come" ("pre-cum") or pre-ejaculatory fluid? You may or may not have noticed it very much because my observation is that it actually takes a young lady's actual presence to cause you to produce it to any substantial extent - Your Mileage May Vary.

Once you produce pre-ejaculatory fluid - as I suggest you will quite promptly when you are with your young lady (and do you actually have someone in mind at this stage?), then it won't matter in the least how you put the condom on, because your foreskin will move whichever way it chooses and the condom will slip freely over your foreskin and glans - wherever they are in relation to each other.

As a matter of fact, this becomes somewhat of a problem with condoms in general, for all men, because if this "slipperiness" extends all the way down to the base of the condom, the whole shebang moves too easily over the penis and the only thing "holding" it in place, is the sort of "suction" at the end.

The big problem is that the young lady (may not always be young, but I'm posing this to your current age ) might not be quite "wet" enough on the outside of the condom, and the condom is preventing your pre-ejaculatory fluid from augmenting hers, and if she were to "grip" the condom tighter on the outside more firmly than you do on the inside, there is a marked tendency for the condom to slip off or be torn.

And looking forward to the prospect, one would hope of marriage where you are going to be having intercourse without the condom, then either you have sufficient lubrication combining your pre-ejaculatory fluids, for your foreskin not to be forcibly pulled back and risk pain and/ or tearing, or if there is not enough, then not only will you risk these inconveniences, but risk causing her substantial discomfort as well - not what you would want.

In short, whatever might be enough to hurt you by pulling back your foreskin, is equally to be avoided to ensure your partner's comfort, and is simply a sign that you were doing something wrong.

And the practical part - read through the previous threads here for further observations, individual experiences and so on. You need to identify where the attachment of the frænulum is to your foreskin so that you can grip this exact point and hold it stretched as in the picture Jim demonstrates - this second picture illustrates that point somewhat better.

 
    
Cyrus7

Re: And as always,

August 12 2007, 2:38 AM 

Thanks for the comment Paul, it was very insightful. Sorry I should've mentioned this earlier, but I'm actually gay, and I understood alot of the issues about using a condom in a male to female intercourse. But I'm more concerned about anal sex, because i'm always going to have to use a condom with another guy, as to prevent aids and such. And anal sex is a lot tighter or atleast has more friction, so i wasn't sure if it would hurt if my foreskin got pulled back while in the condom, through the anal intercourse.

so i've been doing the stretches, and hope to see progress, the pictures really help on how to do the stretches right. thanks again for the help guys.

 
    
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