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when to know when to stop

December 30 2007 at 4:04 PM
dave 

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im 17 years old and a few months back i realised i had phimosis, i have a feeling it may run in my family as my dad has been circumcised which is unusual to happen as im in the uk, and i think my brother has the same problem

i started stretching a few months back and the foreskin can now be pulled back over the gland when erect like below


and if i apply quite a bit of force i can bring it down to the position shown below however there is some discomfort


should i keep on stretching it until it goes down to that position with ease? as the foreskin kindof clumps together below the gland otherwise

and also just out of interest is there anyway to stop the foreskin looking like below

because (correct me if im wrong)for a average penis the foreskin wont go down that far, when flaccid the top of the gland can be visible as far as im aware of as shown in the picture on the left, should i keep stretching until the skin goes like this?




 
    
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Jim

Good progress

December 30 2007, 5:21 PM 

I suggest that you keep working on it until retraction is fairly easy all the way down. It would be desirable for the skin not to get caught, allowing it to movely freely over the corona of the glans.

Your overhand is normal. The stretching probably won't have any effect upon the length of the skin, just the diameter of the opening.

 
    

Good work!

January 3 2008, 6:24 AM 

Well, it seems you have proven that stretching simply - works! If your father was circumcised for this reason, that is really sad (how old was he at the time?) but actually, if he was circumcised for any reason it is pretty sad, as there are very few genuine reasons indeed, to be circumcised and it does significantly mar sexual enjoyment.

If you think your brother has the same problem, how about asking him and explaining the matter of stretching? Have you done the stretching on our advice when you started those months back, or simply by retraction as suggested in the article on the site from where the illustrations come? I'd be very pleased to hear it was us, but if the latter, you may not be using the most effective method, and should read well back in this forum for our preferred approach - please explain which method you have found most effective?

Certainly, I think you should keep on with the stretching until you achieve easy retraction and movement of the skin over the glans, and a month or so more to ensure it stays that way.

What is "normal"? Well, all of the illustrations you cite appear to me to be relatively normal though as the commentary mentions for the first three, they all demonstrate an unusually prominent glans (almost equine in the last picture, which is contrary to the suggestion oft made by circumcision advocates that circumcision causes the glans to be more prominent!). The first two do not show the penis substantially erect, so the constriction or "hourglass" effect from the tight part of the foreskin is not as meaningful as it might appear.

I actually think that even if you fully stretch the foreskin, there is no reason why the glans need be visible when flaccid (nor is it necessarily a problem if it is); it is full coverage that is more "normal". What is probably true, is that the earlier easy retraction (notably spontaneous retraction on erection) occurs, the less the foreskin is elongated by spontaneous erections (quite frequent, particularly at night) during childhood, and the less likely one is to have full coverage.

If you have - as you describe - a degree of phimosis such that you always have full coverage even on erection (and not that that in itself defines phimosis) as you reach adulthood, then you have achieved maximum foreskin length and even if you subsequently loosen it, should expect complete flaccid coverage with which there is nothing "wrong".

If you stretch it fully, then you might expect that the foreskin will not retract simply because you get an erection, but if you can slide it back - and forward again - easily, you will certainly have the benefit during intercourse described in that article.

Regarding the discomfort experienced when you pull your foreskin back as in the second picture, it is of course not necessary that your foreskin does pull back all this way, but if the discomfort is in the frænulum underneath, then you might be advised to stretch the frænulum as we have often described.

 
    

sperm as cure

January 3 2008, 7:37 PM 

Is this true?


...masturbated to ejaculation. I let the semen remain in my foreskin until I showered the next morning. Perhaps hyaluronidase in the semen helped loosen my foreskin, because this enzyme is a potent skin relaxer...

Taken from article you mention before!

 
    
Jim

Don't ask me

January 3 2008, 10:28 PM 

I really have no clue about that, but I'm pretty sure it's going to stink by morning!

 
    
dave

Re: Good work!

January 11 2008, 11:50 AM 

sorry for taking so long to get back, it was around last may i relised i had philmosis, i mostly did pulling it back although i did do the other method of pulling the foreskin out with my fingers inside (dont know the name sorry) the problem i think for me was not the width of the foreskin but instead the skin attaching the glands and the foreskin was too tight (the frenulum)

i saw improvements quite soon after trying to retract it and gradually it came back, around 2 weeks later it was fully past the gland, i never used any creams or anything, i mostly did it when in the warm shower, i don't fully remember what i used for reference on how to do this, i just did a google search and a few websites came up with roughly the same methods of stretching

anyway thanks for your help

 
    
Jim

So, is it working right?

January 11 2008, 10:16 PM 

How about the frenulum? Is it allowing you to retract as you like?

 
    
jay

foreskin fine!

January 13 2008, 5:23 PM 

Dave,

overhang of the foreskin is completely normal and a significant proportion of uncut men have a foreskin that overhangs - i am one of them lol

no need to let it bother you i would say. just means you have even more of those precious little receptors for you and your partner's enjoyment.

take care mate.

 
    
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