Hello, all. First off, I just wanted to say that this forum is really fantastic, and has helped me a great deal during the past little while! I have a couple of phimosis-related questions to ask, that I hope can be answered.
Firstly, a bit of background into my condition so far. I discovered I had phimosis a month or so ago, and began stretching. Sadly, though, I was a bit too impatient, and stretched to the point of a little bit of pain (not excrutiating pain, but enough to feel it. I know this was stupid, but I had not researched the condition or its treatment adequately enough, at that point.) One day, my foreskin began to ache, so I ceased stretching, and developed a nice thrush infection. This cleared up quickly, though, and two weeks later, I resumed stretching. I have been stretching off and on since this time (for approx. 1 week), doing it more gently, but have a concern. Recently, I have noticed little divets present on the top of my foreskin, at the tightest part. These appear as if someone has nicked me there with a sharp object, though they do not bleed, nor have they ever. There are five of them spaced out irregularly, arranged the same way as spokes would coming out of a wheel base; the longest of which is under 2 mm.
These do not hurt at all when I stretch, so I suspect that if any cuts were ever there, they have healed. I can also still stretch to the same point I was able to previous to this discovery, but I admit that my progress does seem slower now than it did a few days ago. I suspect the nicks may just be due to dry skin, and I should moisturize, accordingly, but I wanted to check with the experts here, and see if perhaps a cease in stretching is in order. (This assumption comes from the fact that my foreskin displays numerous smaller wrinkles also located on the tightest part that appear when it is dry, but disappear when I shower, or bathe. Also, I have dry skin, and it is winter where I live.)
I am sorry to be so longwinded, but I wanted to make sure to provide as accurate a background to my issue as possible, in hopes that I may receive some helpful advice, as well as reassurance that all is not lost yet. I thank you again for your time.
Are you sure the trush is completely cleared up? How did you remedy it?
Rob (no login)
Re: Pinking shears?
March 11 2008, 1:22 PM
First of all, thank you for your speedy response!
I believe the thrush is gone, as all physical symptoms (ie: itching, etc.) have disappeared, as well as all visual signs of the thrush. I remedied it with a cream made for me at the pharmacy of a walk in clinic near where I live. Its ingredients list 1% clotrimaderm and 1% clotrimazole. I continued treatment three times a day as directed for a week (roughly the time the thrush cleared up in) and three times a day for a week after that period. I also apply the cream twice daily now, as a precaution. Do you think the issue is that it may not have all been cleared up by now?
I am rather puzzled as to exactly why you might have developed a "thrush" infection - is this something that has happened in the past, is there any relationship with a ladyfriend or is it perhaps related to unwise use of soap?
Presuming that the infection is adequately controlled and you are not using soap which is one of the worst things if you have dry skin, then you may in fact be literally developing "stretch marks" just as appear on other areas of the body. Now you could blame this on too rapid or forcible stretching, and it certainly makes sense to "back off" a little on the vigour of your stretching, but we must emphasise consistency in terms of getting results and not stopping the stretching completely at any point.
If in fact they are stretch marks, then they are harmless (who after all, is going to examine your foreskin critically?) and just as likely inevitable - if you have a skin type prone to stretch marks, then you will get stretch marks anyway.
Perhaps mention what technique you are using to stretch?
Rob (no login)
Hit the nail on the head.
March 11 2008, 3:16 PM
Indeed you are right. Sadly, soap was undoubtedly the culprit. The exposure, again, unfortunately occured before I learned of the benefits of smegma. As for my stretching technique, I tried creating a flesh tunnel with my fingers stretching out my foreskin, and inserting my index finger, but found I experienced pain, upon extending it into the hole enough to get the tightest part around my knuckle. I tried this for a while, but couldn't get the coordination down properly. Now, I have found that my foreskin has the capacity to stretch to the point where I can just BARELY get the very tips of my two index fingers into the tightest part (enough, at least, to maintain adequate grip) and can then stretch laterally. Also, I have been doing this in the shower, if that helps at all.
I am not sure if the marks are stretch marks, but that is an interesting suggestion. I am still young(ish), so I have not had to encounter the presence of these, yet.
In the mean time, I will consult my gp again, in order to confirm that this is in fact not a return of the thrush infection, and will proceed accordingly from there. If the marks do end up occuring due to the presence of thrush, would you recommend picking up some betamethasone, as well?
I have little to add. If you have had troubles with dry skin and soap, then avoid the soap and you will be far better off.
If the marks are not actual fissures - cracks in the skin which may bleed - then I doubt they are of any concern at all and should not impede the process of stretching.
Betamethasone may be useful in stretching, but as it does tend to increase susceptibility to Candida ("thrush"), I would be hesitant to advise its use if you have in fact had problems with the "thrush" unless perhaps you use it together with clotrimazole or the like.
I can't figure out why one would mix and 1% clotrimazole with 1% clotrimaderm, which is also clotrimazole! Did you mean something else?
Rob (no login)
March 12 2008, 12:46 PM
Your advice is very much appreciated, and I thank you again for your speedy response. As for the cream, the label only lists two active ingredients (in fact, only two ingredients at all), so I assumed that was the case.
As for the issue surrounding the "cracks" in the skin, I suspect that they are in fact due to dry skin, as again, they have NEVER bled before, and do not cause me any discomfort when stretching, beyond what would normally be experienced if I taxed the skin too much. Also, they first appeared shortly after I began to shower twice a day, while stretching in the shower. The foreskin is drier than normal now, especially around the tightest part and feels a bit tough, but it does loosen up significantly (and feels like normal skin again) if I expose it to water. The lines also seem to disappear if I stretch, except for one on the right hand side.
Also if it helps at all, there was a post made previously, last modified on Sep 13, 2007, 2:47 PM where the user posted pictures of himself. The lines I have are quite similar to those present on him in the first picture. Again though, I will see a doctor tomorrow to confirm that the thrush is gone, to get his/her opinion on the "cracks", and to hopefully get a recommendation on some moisturizer, as well. Wish me luck.
If the "lines" you describe are no more than those visible in this picture, then I think you can safely forget about them, particularly if they disappear when wet. All I can see in the picture are the "wrinkles" of the foreskin.
I am not sure whether the second picture shows a later state of progress, or a little further stretch, or a little less erection! The foreskin is normally very elastic and any given picture might be interpreted as "stretched to the limit", yet prove only half that.
Sorbolene cream (with glycerin) is the most popular "moisturiser" and might be worth a try - I'll bet that is what the doctor suggests! Always seek out the un-scented version.
Rob (no login)
March 14 2008, 7:14 PM
Hello again. I saw the doctor the other day, and she informed me that my infection was indeed back. She gave me more of the cream to use, and said to apply it as I did before, and it should clear up. This has caused me to be a little worried, though, as I fear the lines present around the tight part of my foreskin may indeed be cracks that could cause scarring to occur. Do you think this is a possibility?
The cracks look like deep wrinkles in the skin (similar to those that occur on very dry skin), and indeed, the foreskin appears dry and constricted. Before I realized the infection had returned, I had begun stretching again, in hopes of not losing too much ground. The stretching did not bring me any pain whatsoever, though, except for one time that it did in fact bring me a small bit of pain (nothing excrutiating) and I thusly stopped. Also, my foreskin has never visibly torn, and there has never been any blood, or open sores anywhere in that region. This is either the first or second time I have had any sort of thrush-like-infection in that area, so the issue of repeat infections, etc. is non-existent.
I am a little worried now, admittedly, but suspect that these cracks are not to be worried about too heavily. Again, they have NEVER been painful, and have NEVER opened up at all, but do any of you think there is a possibility of scar tissue formation? Thank you for your help, and once more, any advice would be greatly appreciated...
After you treated the infection the first time, did you return to using soap? Is that the cause?
You know now to stay clear of soap, right. Hopefully, that will keep the infection from recurring.
While you are using the medicine, I think you could safely continue to stretch gently without causing harm.
This message has been edited by jimsplacetofixthings on Mar 15, 2008 9:03 AM
Rob (no login)
Not to worry, lesson learned.
March 15 2008, 8:43 AM
Thank you, Jim, for your words of wisdom. No, I have avoided soap in that area, period after the first exposure. I would imagine that my second exposure was most likely due to poor aseptic technique with the lubrication and vitamin e oil I was using. These are both now out of the picture entirely. Either that, or I did not kill the infection the first time entirely, as I admittedly did lax a bit in the application of the treatment near the end of things. I will continue for longer, this time, and stretch when it appears that things are back to normal. (This is entirely for my own peace of mind.)
Do you think there is a possibility of scarring, though? I am sorry to seem like I'm flogging a dead horse, here, but I keep reading about "micro tears" that can occur in the foreskin that can impede stretching. I have not stretched to pain at all while the infection was returning, and despite the present of the large wrinkle-like things, have never had any open cuts, sores, or cracks on my foreskin at all. So you think scarring is a possibility?
Has it ever occurred to you that all the talk about "micro-tears" and scarring, appears exclusively on circumcision "fetish" sites?
The simplest cure for this, is not to read circumcision "fetish" sites!
Rob (no login)
I'll put the horse out to pasture.
March 16 2008, 12:10 AM
Thank you both for your words of encouragement, and believe me, from now on an attempt will be made to be more attentive to such things. I will report back with any progress achieved after the infection has cleared up.
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