I have been quite diligently working on stretching tight foreskin and now I think it is good enough to glide over glans. But the frenulum is still short and it is pulling back when foreskin moves beyond 75% of glans when erect. If I try to force and pull back, it makes me to lose the erection. I guess I still need to work on the frenulum. I have been trying to do the methods recommended by you guys for last 10 months but it has not made significant progress. Or may be I am not stretching the frelumum good enogh? Are there any other things I can try?



My earlier post:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/244184/thread/1203226067/last-1203544460/phimosis+still+tight+foreskin

Please explain to us exactly what you do to stretch the frenulum.

To answer your question, yes, you have not been doing it good enough, or it would have stretched by now. The frenulum is simply a continuation of that part you've already stretched, so it will respond in the same manner. The problem is getting hold of it. Has this been a challenge?

I have been doing the method suggested in some other thread. I just hold the foreskin underneath and pull it outwards. I am able to hold it easily, though sometimes slippery with wet hands. I pull it with one hand and use other hand to hold the penile shaft. I generally hold penile shaft with other hand to avoid the pull getting targetted to base of penis and target the frenulum. Is there something wrong with this?

They may be something wrong if you're not actually stretching the frenulum itself. It sounds almost as if you are not.

Try pulling the skin back a bit to expose the frenulum so you can grasp each end. Then apply mild tension. Does this feel different?

I could feel slight pain in the long tissue if I retract foreskin and hold one end of the tissue and pull. But should I pull only this long tissue or the band below it? I can easily insert two large fingers inside my foreskin easily, so do you suggest any other methods than the one hand pull?

Pull the foreskin back to expose the frenlum, and then grasp each end of the frenulum to apply tension. Don't try to read more into this.

I certainly do not try and trivialise the matter of stretching the frænulum, it is quite a difficult matter, but do-able.

I perceive from both your posts that you have had considerable improvement in retraction over this time. If you have not achieved your overall goal, then I would again suggest you need to persist with both exercises, the specific frænulum stretch that we illustrate so often, and the "widening" manoeuvre.

My questions are: You mentioned about five minutes twice a day. Are you still doing at least this much on a regular basis, or somewhat more?

How far back can you easily retract the foreskin now when flaccid?

I trust you are less anxious, given my previous explanation, about whether intercourse would be a problem and presumably this is still not an immediate consideration. I wonder whether you have noticed any difference in what happens when you masturbate?

The only other method I can think of in regard to the frænulum, would be a variant of the "T-tape" method used to stretch the foreskin remnant to "restore" a foreskin following circumcision. As it applies to you, you would identify the point on the foreskin where the frænulum ends, and apply a piece of adhesive tape folded back on itself so that one end was inside the foreskin over the end of the frænulum and the other on the corresponding part of the outside of the frænulum.

In effect, the tape would be holding on the two points we suggest you grip in our "favourite illustration", but you can attach to the part of the tape folded on itself, a clip attached to an elastic strap, the other end of which you attach wherever you can (some suggestions including a loop around the leg under the knee, or a strap over your shoulder or around your neck!) to provide constant albeit gentle tension.

In fact (and somewhat contrary to Jim's comments), I see no need at all to hold the penis in order to provide "counter-traction". Whether or not it would be a good thing, there is negligible likelihood of such tugging tending to elongate your penis! That is made of immensely tougher material than the frænulum, and using one hand only makes the process far simpler/ easier.

I think you can see if not in that picture, then in this one, the point of grip at the end of the frænulum.

It was actually Amit who told of doing this. I see no benefit in doing so either.

It is amazing that you both you are taking considerable time in responding to these questions. Thanks a lot for your time.

To answer Paul's questions, I do 5 mins of frenulum stretch and another of 5 mins of widening stretch one in morning and once in night. I spend a total of 20 mins each day of this.

I can retract completely over glans when it is flacid easily now. I could not retract only when erect, since glans gets bulgier and could only retract over 75% of glans.

I used to do exactly as in you first figure, except that I use second hand to hold the penis. Do you suggest to try the second picture to use both hands to pull the frenulum? Actually does the long tissue needs to get elongated or the band below the frenulum?

I'm sorry, Amit, I can't actually contribute much more in the way of suggestions. The only "more powerful" way of stretching I can see would be to arrange for constant tension as I explained. Other than that, you would appear to be doing the right thing, continuing both the "width" and frænulum stretch until you get the required degree of looseness.

There's no particular value in using both hands that I can see, I mention that latter illustration only in respect of identifying the end of the frænulum as it blends into the foreskin proper. Whatever part is tight when you pull back the foreskin, is the part that needs stretching!