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21-year old cannot insert 1 finger

July 30 2009 at 1:42 AM
Concerned 

 
Hi

I am 21 years old.

I have only recently discovered that my inability to retract the foreskin might cause pain and cause the frenulum to burst shooting blood everywhere during sex.

Wouldn't want that! wink.gif

I cannot retract my foreskin whether:

- erect or flaccid (just a little to see a little bit of the head and the urethra opening)

- cannot insert even 1 little finger in.


I have tried the (messy) balloon test, and it does balloon just fine, seems uniform but need to double-check.


Can I use baby oil (does it have lanolin?) as a lubricant when stretching? Or would KY be better?

Where do I start? And how long can I expect to be able to easily and fully retract my foreskin after stretching?

I have all the time in the world to stretch. Would thrice daily for 20 min give me results in 2-3 weeks?

We do not have the Gansie gfs stretching calipers in our country. I am fine with using my little fingers if that works.

Thank you.

 
    
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Jim

Start here

July 30 2009, 9:21 AM 

Since you cannot insert even one finger yet, you'll need to start with this exercise:

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If you do this as you have outlined, you should make fairly rapid progress to the point of being able to insert fingers into the opening.

What is your country?

 
    

What a dramatic scene you paint!

July 30 2009, 10:00 PM 

Traditionally, this (mess) is much what was expected to happen when a girls hymen was ruptured on first intercourse. Of course this is quite rare nowadays due to the routine use of tampons. Both consequences are associated with the expectation that intercourse is clumsy or brutal and "ham-fisted", which is commonly portrayed in pornography.

In actual fact, painful intercourse (and damage to the foreskin or frænulum) generally indicates lack of lubrication, in turn demonstrating that the young lady is not actually enthusiastic about the whole procedure. If her vulva is not obviously wet and slippery, then she is not ready - and will likely not enjoy the experience either.

Interestingly, your concern that intercourse might be painful is not backed up by any suggestion that masturbation is painful for you. Did it not occur to you to wonder why this would apply to one but not the other? Why would you expect them to be so markedly different?

Now you are a trifle unclear as to whether you can or can not see anything of the urethral meatus or glans. In fact, if you can see it at all, then you should be able to insert a little finger through the opening, but you have to know the "trick" - which is to pull the foreskin forward - as Jim illustrates here - and slip the finger down the "funnel" formed while it is stretched out.

Generally speaking, "baby oil" should do fine (but you do have to ask - from where do they get the babies? ...). wink.gif

 
    
Dude

Re: What a dramatic scene you paint!

July 31 2009, 1:01 AM 

I heard that with masturbation, one controls the retraction to the point where it is not painful. With thrusting this is not possible and the foreskin gets pulled back with deep gentle thrusting in the vagina?

I managed to insert my little finger in yesterday, by using Jim's method. I have a felt-tip pen cap but I'm scared of germs entering the penis/foreskin inner?

The foreskin tip is a little sore today. I may need to use baby oil instead of lotion, but then my grip slips and I'm unable to pinch it and pull it up, it's too slippery.

Great forum! Well done! happy.gif

 
    

Don't forget the "other" stretch for the frænulum.

July 31 2009, 6:27 AM 

Well, I certainly hope that you are capable of controlling thrusting in intercourse when you progress to that point, because if you are not, you will quickly be short of companionship.

While a young lady who has not delivered any babies may well be quite "tight", the only reason for the foreskin to get pulled back forcibly would be the absence of lubrication that I have cited, and according to Newton's third law, that will in most cases hurt her as much as it does you.

You are well to be concerned about getting germs inside. I did not mention, but it should be self-evident that you need your fingernails to be trimmed, smoothed and clean. A pen-cap, duly washed (and thoroughly rinsed), should be even cleaner but you could always obtain some disposable alcohol swabs such as doctors use (they are available in hundred packs from the pharmacy/ drug-store though at a considerable premium compared to the medical supplier) to clean things. You simply cannot develop an allergy to alcohol, so it is a very safe bactericide!

Obviously getting a grip and using a lubricant are antithetical; you need a dab of whatever it is only on the fingertip or object that you are putting inside. If it gets sore, ease up but do not stop (unless it gets really sore. happy.gif)

 
    

Re: Don't forget the "other" stretch for the frænulum.

August 7 2009, 5:26 AM 

When I read about blood spurting everywhere I was reminded of this cake which someone made based on fallout 2's bloody mess character trait...
'Nuff said?
http://www.everyjoe.com/articles/3d-bloody-mess-cake-made-yummy-by-bethesda-95/

 
    
Dude

Success but one problem

September 3 2009, 12:45 AM 

Hi

I managed to retract my foreskin 90% over the glans yesterday, using saliva as a lubricant (spitting onto glans) and pulling the foreskin back slowly.

It is quite tight, and I was not able to easily retract it fully over the glans (the front bottom part of the glans was still 'stuck' under the foreskin).

I was very scared of pulling it back further in case the foreskin gets stuck behind the glans and I would be unable to pull it back over (paraphimosis).

Also, the foreskin seemed to want to keep retracting further down, I had to keep pulling it up because it was so tight and squeezing the glans. I eventually pinched the foreskin and pulled it back up over the glans.

I will continue with the 2-finger method from now on, to stretch the band. I am able to fit a thumb in easily, but battle with inserting two little fingers at the same time. What do I try next after my thumb?

Does this mean I have a short frenulum? Or just a tight band?

And I'm scared of paraphimosis, so I won't try and retract it that far back again until I stretch the band for a few weeks.

 
    
Jim

Fear not

September 3 2009, 2:57 PM 

Paraphimosis is for little kids and really old men. At your age, you will have no problem taking control and getting the skin back over the rim. Continue with using two fingers to spread apart the opening until you can easily retract. If the retraction is not sufficient to clear the rim, then you need also to work on the frenulum. Check previous threads for methods.

I think you should continue retraction attempts.

 
    
Paul B.

Actually, things should be fairly straightforward from here.

September 5 2009, 3:47 AM 

Since you can now introduce a finger through the tight section of the foreskin, you should be able to "probe" all the way around underneath and feel the "corona" - the back rim of the glans - as well as the frænulum on the underside of the glans. So you should be able to assess just how tight the frænulum is. Now of course, I did stress previously, the importance of performing the frænulum stretch with equal (or greater) diligence than simply stretching the foreskin opening. happy.gif

On my calculation (at least, my thumb), the thumb is pretty close in size to two little fingers held together, so I presume your difficulty is more one of manipulating those two little finger tips in, than size. I am sure you will develop a "knack" of this, which is clearly important as once you get two fingers (one of each hand) in, then pulling them apart (or "levering" them against each other) allows the best control of the pressure you can exert on the foreskin. Doing this with the two fingers braced against each other should be quite comfortable as you are not using your arm muscles to put tension on the whole of your arms, and the finger tips should naturally "hook" into place (moving to the sides of the glans) and not easily slip out.

As we have explained before, "paraphimosis" is (like phimosis) nothing more than a "medical" name for a simple physical situation. Since behind the corona is a narrowing, if you pull a tight foreskin back, you can get it to "snap" into this narrow part. If you then leave it in this position for a period of time, the part of the penis and particularly the foreskin which was previously on the inside, between the tight part and the corona is now in front of the tight area and whilst the arterial blood supply still has plenty of pressure to feed blood into this area, the restriction on the exit of blood back to the body proper causes fluid to build up in the constricted area (oedema) and it swells, making it more difficult to pull the foreskin forward again.

This does however, happen only slowly - it will not happen in a minute or two, so as long as you pull the foreskin forward again promptly, there is no problem. And pulling the foreskin forward over the glans is exactly the same as pulling it back - you pulled it back by gripping the loose skin behind the glans and pulling back toward your body, so to pull it forward, you grip the same skin (close to the narrow part), roll it forward over the glans and then pull it away from the body so that the tight part slides forward again over the glans.

It is that simple. If you could pull the foreskin back, then of course you can pull it forward again - "paraphimosis" is simply the consequence of sitting there and looking puzzled and not doing the obvious.

However as stated before, retraction is at this point, simply a test of progress - it is fairly irrelevant to the actual process of stretching. When it is sufficiently stretched, you will firstly be able to retract easily when flaccid (at which point paraphimosis is no longer possible) and then easily when erect. So there is actually no reason to perform difficult retraction.

 
    
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