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Pinhole Phimosis, possible to stretch?

February 19 2010 at 3:23 AM
M  (no login)

I have a pinhole phimosis (1-2 mm wide or so). Would it possible for me to stretch this open (even if it takes months or even 1-2 years)? Let us hops (asume) that I don't have any yeast or candida or so. I really don't think so, after have read alot of discussions in this forum.

But, I may have some small scars after small injuries earlier tried to strech too firmly.

I am now 40, in my youth I could stretch the forskin all the way back, but it was a little tight by then. The last 20 years I have tried to forget the whole thing (shamed), and now, here we are today, a severe phimosis.

I started to stretch more than 2 weeks ago. I stretch 2-3 times a day, perhaps just 1-2 minutes each time (perhaps to short time).

There is not special problem with the phimosis when in erection, it is about the same as anytime. Except for the tight ring in the front, the rest of the foreskin seems to be very stretchy.

Now, when I stretch the head of the forskin gets a little red, swells and I get even more problems peeing than I already have. Is that a good sign of the stretching activities, or should I slow down even more? Would it be possible for me to stretch it wide open just by hand? (It is to tight to pull with fingers, so I just draw back agains glans)

What do you think, Jim and Paul?

Regards,
M

 
    
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Jim
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This is what I think

February 19 2010, 5:40 AM 

If I were you, I'd treat for yeast. There is a reason why your foreskin tightened up since your youth. That is not a normal sequence. If anything, it should have loosened up. Get some Lotrimin and apply it to the foreskin, getting some inside the opening.

The problem with what you call scarring and the tearing itself is also indicative of yeast. Normal skin would not tear under such circumstances as you describe. The pain would have deterred you before such an injury.

 
    
M
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Cortimyk

February 19 2010, 6:20 AM 

OK, thanks for the tips. Probably my "Cortimyk" also will do. That is a mix of Hydrocortison and Anti-fungal. I have not applied it right now, but uses it from time to time on other parts, externally down there. (Doctors prescription).

Well, another question: Do you and/or Paul written anything intresting, except for this forum? On the web, books, articles...? I would be interesting reading that stuff also (I have read a lot of this forum already)?

M

 
    
Jim
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Couldn't tell you

February 19 2010, 10:52 AM 

Everything online about the product is written in a language I don't understand. You could try it to see if things get better.

I haven't written any books or articles.

 
    
Paul B.
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This is where I publish - at present.

February 19 2010, 12:06 PM 

I am inclined to think that what will be of most use to you will be the references to using a stretching device using the "friendly plastic" or "polymorph" as described in this thread.

If this is causing problems with peeing, you have clearly developed a severe secondary phimosis - that is, you were previously able to retract, but now can not. This must indicate some disease process, which means you must treat that disease process in order to make it possible to stretch.

It is a reasonable presumption (given the long duration) that chronic low-grade infestation with Candida is the problem and that you will need to treat this - probably continuously - in order to achieve the result you want. The "Cortimyk" (locates you in the Scandinavian region) sounds a good start for this, though a (more) potent steroid, still combined with an anti-fungal, might speed the stretching.

I am curious about a few aspects - is the difficulty you have peeing simply a matter of directing the stream, or is this substantially delaying bladder emptying - which would be accompanied by extreme "ballooning" of what you describe as an otherwise perfectly elastic foreskin?

It is interesting that you mention no episodes of overt inflammation of the remainder of the foreskin. Have you had such? This otherwise demonstrates very clearly a most significant point - that all the problems people have with the foreskin are caused by external factors, the foreskin is actually very effective at maintaining its health and having urine underneath is not a source of problems. It is only the opening of your foreskin that is so affected - because that is the only part that is exposed to the "outside world"!

Now you have not mentioned sexual activity other than that erections are not a problem. A foreskin with such a tight phimosis, unless there really is a major disease (notably Lichen Sclerosis) present, will necessarily have been fully stretched to easily accommodate erections (which are virtually unavoidable, frequent at night) with perfect comfort, and with it always protecting the glans, masturbation is very easy and comfortable, as will be intercourse, though the latter may suffer from some reduction of sensation. What has been your experience here?

So in summary, I suggest you start by using the Cortimyk on a regular basis - twice daily. Given that it is a mild steroid, you may use it as a lubricant for stretching though the available information suggests some risk of irritation due to the preservatives it contains. I think you would benefit from a stretching device as described there, which could initially be crafted with sufficiently small tips or "shoes" to fit the small opening you describe (and it may in fact, make it easier to pee with the device in place).

Note that the tips of the shoes should be made quite bulbous to minimise pressure and should always be as wide as possible. I suggest a modification of the design illustrated so that the "shoes" are actually folded inside the "U" shape of the "spring" so that when in place, it actually lies comfortably back against the foreskin and shaft of your penis.

 
    
M
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Thanks Paul

February 21 2010, 8:48 PM 

Yes, I guess this is a severe secondary phimosis.

Yes, it is so tight that it delays emtying the bladder with balooning the foreskin.

No, I have not have any problems with inflammation under the foreskin. So probably it will be external factors...

There is really no problems masturbation at all, but I have not have any normal intercourses.

Thank you for the tips with the device, possibly I could use something like this.

M


 
    

(Login Paul_B.)

You've missed the point!

February 24 2010, 7:40 PM 

It is not that that device as pictured, would suit your tight phimosis, but that the material in question is easily re-workable. For the same reason, you do not really want to purchase a pre-made device in this material, but rather a fairly small quantity of the raw material, and then you make one with a dimension to suit your particular problem.

As you then stretch the opening, you re-make it with the "shoes" in successively larger and larger dimensions, until it is holding your foreskin open wide enough to pass over your glans easily - though you would not wish to do that with the device in place.

 
    
Paul B.
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It is easier than you think.

February 25 2010, 3:10 AM 

OK, there is a very important point that I have published previously - and more than once - but is by now "a ways back" in this discussion board and needs to be re-stated.

Getting something into the narrow part is dead easy if you look at it the right way round! What you do is to hold the end of your foreskin - preferably the underside as illustrated so frequently in the instructions to stretch your frænulum, and put it on the stretch pulling away from your body.

This stretches out any folds or pleats in the skin on the inside (and indeed, on the outside) of your foreskin and means the narrow part is now on the inside of effectively, a funnel. By pulling the foreskin forward against whatever - whether a pen cap, a finger, or a crafted stretching device - that object will simply slide inside through the foreskin. Some lubricant on the device - and the device only, not the fingers you are using to grip the foreskin - will make it easier and avoid unpleasant sensations when it touches the glans, which it however is less likely to do as you are stretching the foreskin away from the glans anyway.

 
    
fred
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homemade device

February 24 2010, 3:37 PM 

i have see the device what a good idea but do you get it right in to the opening as i would be unable would it still work if you insert it near the opening

 
    
Jim
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It WILL go in

February 24 2010, 3:48 PM 

If the device is designed and configured for a particular penis, lubed up properly, it will go inside. It's going to have to be inserted within the confines of the tight ring.

 
    
fred
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Re: It WILL go in

February 24 2010, 3:56 PM 

is there any pictures showing how its inserted as am not the brightist bulb as i think if you can get that in then you would be able to get fingers in there as my ring is so tight ie 2mm slit i dont think it would go in without pain aaaahhhhhhhh
cheers

 
    
Jim
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Turn on the light switch

February 24 2010, 4:07 PM 

OK, it's not going to take a phd to figure this out. A generous amount of lube will help to prevent pain. Ease the device in slowly and gently, avoiding entering the urethra.

 
    
peter
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Re: Turn on the light switch

February 25 2010, 8:31 AM 

my foreskin will not go back at all it has never i have not had sex at all and it seems to be getting tighter now i struggle to pee as its painful as the opening is so small what should i do go see a doctor and im 27 also been treating myself for yeast


peter

 
    
Jim
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What else is going on in your life?

February 25 2010, 9:43 AM 

Are you diabetic? Do you crave and eat carohydrates, especially sweets? Are you alcoholic?
What are you doing to treat for yeast?

 
    
peter
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Re: What else is going on in your life?

February 25 2010, 12:04 PM 

i drink alot of fizzy juice but im not diabetic dont drink alcohol iam using canesten twice daliy when i pull my forskin backthe hole is tiny as im stuggling to pee major pressure small stream i have read about inserting some device in but its so small the opening it would need to be as thin as hell i think i may go and see a doctor on monday any suggetions thanks

peter

 
    
Jim
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In addition, do this

February 25 2010, 2:31 PM 

Apply Lotrimin topically. You can get a handle on this.

 
    

(Login Paul_B.)

Then you need definitive action

February 25 2010, 12:52 PM 

If it is getting tighter and it is difficult to pee then I believe you really do need both the proper steroid ointment (just as likely in addition to the antifungal) and a program of dilatation using the proper instruments, using the technique that I have been discussing recently where you pull the foreskin forward to form a straight path down which the dilator may be passed.

Unfortunately, this really requires the assistance of a competent doctor and therein lies the catch - most doctors are indeed likely to fob you off in favour of circumcision as the "easy" option.

The irony of this is that any doctor with any competency at all is perfectly familiar with the use of dilators Hegar_1.jpg - just Google "dilators" or "hegar dilators" - there is no secret about it - but they tend to be unable to think "outside the box" in respect of pre-conceived notions. And if you note the Google references to vaginal dilators, you will see that three is nothing really remarkable about people using dilators themselves.

 
    
peter
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Re: Then you need definitive action

February 25 2010, 4:40 PM 

is lotrimin the same as canesten {thrush cream} clotrimazole 2% if so i have been applying the cream twice daily for around 1 half weeks still no diffrence should i quit streching for now {pulling foward} if so when can i resume how long do you think it will take to see an improvment

 
    
Jim
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My mistake

February 25 2010, 9:53 PM 

I inadvertently thought you were treating orally. What you have should work, as it contains the same active ingredient.

 
    
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