This was where I previously posted:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/244184/thread/1297588366/last-1298048851/stretching+the+right+part

(I wanted just to add to this thread, but the 'respond' option has disappeared... Is this because the thread has been idle for a while? Do you need to respond within a specific timeframe?)

Anyway... I don't have loads to update, but just wanted to say that I've been continuing with the two basic exercises (foreskin opening and frenulum), and am very (very) slowly seeing some progress. I'm managing stay disciplined and to do the exercises every day (have only had two days where I didn't do it). Still struggling with lubricant which is both help and a hindrance, I'm usually more productive without it. And have been experimenting with flesh tunnels, haven't yet found how to make the best use of them yet.

But nonetheless, I'm sticking at it. I'm very close to being able to get in two fingers to apply the more intensive stretching. And certainly while flaccid I'm able to retract a bit further. Still not yet able to expose the entire glans. A lot of it is about keeping my nerve. Whenever I find myself getting further than I've been before before I get nervy about how far to push it, because I'm worried about the foreskin getting stuck and not returning easily to its regular position. Is there much risk of going too far too soon (i.e. before the foreskin opening is sufficiently stretched)?

So, very slow progress, but progress nonetheless, I think.

Any progress is progress. Good work. Keep at it.

Don't be concerned about getting the skin stuck. If it goes over one way, it will return.

After threads hit my third page, I lock the thread in order to maintain some sanity in trying to keep up.

You say if it goes over one way, it will return. How then does paraphimosis occur? Also is there any chance of damaging the frenulum by pushing back too far and tearing it? I'm sure you can understand my cautiousness!

Paraphimosis occurs in little children and those who have no control, such as feeble people and drunks. If you remain in control, you'll have no problem.

The frenulum is actually a lot more resilient that reported by some. If you are retracting and experiencing no pain, the frenulum will be fine. The way the frenulum tears is through agressive sexual activity in which caution is thrown to the wind. I beleive you should be working on stretching the frenulum simultaneously with stretching the opening.

To augment Jim's comments (we have dealt with this so many times), paraphimosis affects people in three specific categories, each characterised by an impairment in mental function. It occurs when the foreskin is retracted, is somewhat tight, and is left retracted for sufficiently long for the part of the penis distal to (beyond) where the tight foreskin is constricting, to swell.

The erectile bodies cannot swell beyond the normal dimension of an erection, but the foreskin and shaft skin are very loose (which facilitates intercourse and makes masturbation practical), so that fluid - oedema - can quite quickly build up underneath to a quite impressive degree. At least over say, half an hour. This swelling then makes it difficult to pull the foreskin forward over this part where it had not been that difficult before and the more swelling, the more difficult it becomes.

The first group to whom this might happen is young children. It is healthy for them to experiment with retraction, but when startled by sudden exposure of the glans, one possible response is "I must have done something naughty - I'd better just hide it and no-one will know". This is an unfortunate consequence of negative parenting, where the more desirable response would be "Wow - look at that! I must show this to mummy!" who would then ensure that the foreskin was replaced - before being retracted again, replaced again, etc.

The second scenario is a fellow who is inebriated ("stoned", drugged out) and after intercourse or for whatever other reason to have retracted, falls asleep without bothering to replace the foreskin, which even if it was readily replaceable in normal circumstances, can swell over some hours. I have little sympathy for drunks, and might even think that people who are too stupid to look after their foreskin, may actually deserve to lose it. {When I say "lose it", I do not mean that it is damaged by paraphimosis as it has been pointed out to me by a surgeon that there are very few actually documented cases of paraphimosis resulting in penile injury, but refer to the enticement it gives to doctors to spruik surgery.}

Of course, the sedation may be a valid medical procedure, such as when a catheter is inserted under anaesthesia during surgery and the foreskin is not correctly replaced (as it was retracted to enable the catheterisation). Medical staff should understand the importance of this, but lapses do occur.

Finally, elderly men in nursing home facilities may be too feeble and/ or demented to manage their foreskin, and staff may be inadequate.

We are getting enthusiastic recently about the "polymorph" material. Not only can you construct a "stretcher" as recent threads discuss, but in fact, you can use it to make and re-fashion your own flesh tunnels - buy once, use as long as necessary. By the same token, you can invent your own device if you can imagine a better way.

The advantage of all stretching devices is that they work while you play - or while you earn your keep - or whatever.

For a foreskin you cannot retract when flaccid, any progress in a month sounds quite good, because you are desiring a substantial percentage gain such as 100% (doubling the diameter/ circumference) to see any benefit. Once you can retract flaccid, the remaining percentage is less - remember, from the point of view of the individual part of the skin, a percentage or ratio is what it is all about.

An interesting point we must emphasise: retraction is the proof of achievement, not the method. Only ever try gently (you should be anxious about pulling back too hard), if it will retract, you have achieved something, if not just persist with the stretching anyway. You really do not need to give yourself false expectations by forcible retraction, what you are aiming for in the final analysis is easy retraction. You simply do not need to test retraction, it will be obvious when it is easily possible.

If you should happen to retract, then you grab the skin on each side behind the tight part that has retracted, and pull that forward to cover the glans. The shaft skin is (normally) perfectly mobile so you just keep pulling it forward until it pulls the tight part forward again (even if that requires some force).

Thanks for the comments (reassurance) about paraphimosis.

Paul, you make a good point regarding retraction being the proof not the method. I guess I've been testing to see if I can retract any further in order to give myself encouragement that I'm making progress (and maybe demonstrating a little impatience also - but I do know it will take time). But as you say, there's no need to test what's the furthest I can go, because clearly the aim is EASY retraction.

Jim, you say I "should be working on stretching the frenulum simultaneously with stretching the opening". Just to clarify, I think you mean I should be working on both the exercise for the foreskin opening and the exercise for the frenulum lengthening. But just want to check that by "simultaneously" you don't mean a single exercise that I've missed that would stretch everything at once?! (I think you just mean "simultaneously" in an ongoing sense...)

I've just ordered some polymorph material from ebay, so that will be interesting.

Yes, work on both of them, individually, one after the other.

You probably could stretch both frænulum and opening simultaneously (as growth of both is actually naturally achieved over time by regular retraction including when you have - frequent and persistent - erections during sleep) if you do the "two fingers inside" stretch top to bottom rather than side to side, with one finger against the frænulum on the inside.

I am not really suggesting this, as it is probably rather difficult to arrange, but it does remind of the point that one fellow was putting a notch in the inside "rim" of his "flesh tunnel" to relieve the pressure on the frænulum, and I pointed out that this was actually counter-productive as you really want persistent pressure there to cause it to stretch and smooth out as far as possible.

The same thing would apply to the polymorph stretching device - you could design it to be inserted with the "shoes" or "blades" vertically opposed. Or you could do so at least part of the time.

I've just found this forum as I keep thinking I must do something about my own issue.

I'll do some reading of threads, but what are flesh tunnels and where can I get one/some?

Thanks

You can find them at a local tatoo parlor or you may visit ebay.com.

any of many on-line suppliers of body piercing paraphernalia.