Hi just stumbled onto this website. Looks like I finally found a good resource for phimosis/frenulum breve!
Just a few quick questions.
I've noticed that many of the posts reference exercises with pictures. Does this forum attach to a specific website? I've gone back to page 51 and still only find references to exercises no specific exercises and pictures.
I may have missed them... if so, just let me know they're on this board and I'll go back to digging.
Two, I would just like a clarification. I've heard so many different things about phimosis and frenulum breve.
Some say stretching is the absolute cure to both. Others say that past puberty, stretching does virtually nothing. Others say stretching can cure phimosis, but surgery is necessary for frenulum breve.
I'd like to get a real answer.
From this forum, it definitely seems like stretching is the preferred method. If so, I'm happy to hear that I was actually thinking about making an appointment to get a frenuloplasty this week! If I can stretch, I'd definitely prefer that.
However, I have tried stretching in the shower. It's only once a day and for about 2-3 minutes, so I'm assuming that's why I haven't had any noticeable results. Additionally, I'm using my own stretching techniques and no steroid cream whatsoever.
Is there a page that shows what exercises to use and how long to do them for? I'm assuming there is... all I need is a link to it or, if it's on the forums, just the tip to "keep digging."
Thanks, and it's great what you guys have done here with this forum!
If you'll check out the post directly before yours, you'll see all you need to know. The truth of this whole thing is that this never changes! We answer individually because everyone truly believes he is different. That's it!
The opening to the foreskin is tight because of a structure known as the frenar band. It's a continuation of the frenulum and is composed of the same tissue. If one will expand, so will the other. The challenge with the frenulum is just grasping it. If you do what the man in the picture does, you'll be doing it correctly. You should feel some tugging on the frenulum itself when you do it.
My advice about other forums and sites is to ignore them. I look at them too, and I'm blown away by the ignorance. Paul and I began offering advice a number of years ago, and we encountered numerous arch enemies who tried every means of discrediting us. We remain, but few stragglers from those old sites now linger around various question and answer sites to plug their baloney about stretching not working. If stretching doesn't work, please tell me how fat people get fat. If their skin did not expand, they'd explode!
M (no login)
April 4 2012, 1:41 PM
I facepalmed after I submitted this post, since immediately after I submitted it I saw "IMPORTANT!! HOW TO STRETCH."
Problem is, for some reason, the frenulum pictures aren't showing up for me. They link to which has a 404 - Not Found error.
Any idea why this might be happening? Is there any way to upload the pictures to this post? Would be very helpful.
Glad to hear that stretching works. I did think it kind of odd how skin would stretch, yet for some reason, the frenulum would be immune? Didn't make sense glad it's not true. Thanks!
I can use internet explorer, Safari or Mozilla and see it every time. Are you able to open the other picture?
The exercise consists of grabbing the bottom of your foreskin in the place where your frenulum attaches. As you tug, you should feel it in the frenulum.
M (no login)
Fixed! Few Questions...
April 5 2012, 3:39 PM
Finally figured out what was wrong had to do with some network settings.
While the picture wasn't loading, I thought I'd dig through a bunch of old posts to see if I could find the pic you guys were talking about originally.
I found a bunch of cases of frenulum breve, and it turns out my case may not be quite as bad as I originally thought.
A few weeks ago, I had sex for the first time. The reason why I came to this page in the first place is that it was fairly painful. Nothing ripped, but I'd always thought I had a mild case of phimosis/frenulum breve (I could never get the skin down the head when erect), so I figured sex may be painful. Since it was, I figured I'd see what I could do to fix things.
Now I've seen Paul mention things like if you can masturbate to orgasm, you should be able to have sex pain free. I can easily do that, which makes me wonder if the painful sex wasn't necessarily caused by the foreskin.
She was on top of me going at it pretty rough, plus we kinda just jumped into things right away maybe there wasn't enough lubricant?
I don't know anyone who is uncircumcised, so I just figured that any type of pain was due to the foreskin. Was it just the position? The method? Lack of foreplay?
Here's an album to give a clearer idea on things. The first two pics are flaccid, last one is erect.
However, if it's uncomfortable, stretching should improve your comfort level. The roughness and lack of adequate lubrication is definitely suspect. Did changing the settings allow you to view the picture?
We (I) have never actually got around to generating a website didactically describing - and illustrating - what we explain. It certainly would be much easier than repetitiously answering questions.
One problem is finding a site which would not have "problems" with the nature of the images.
We certainly do advise stretching rather than anything else. I am not overtly opposed to tying off the frænulum and considering what other forms of self-mutilation people appear to practice with impunity (piercings), I even allow it is something that a fellow can do himself, though it makes much more sense to have someone with appropriate skill and resources - most appropriately a General Practitioner - do it. But I really doubt that gives the best result - you would need to stretch as well, especially during the healing period, and I assert that there is much greater satisfaction to achieving the result purely through stretching (possibly with some betamethasone ointment).
It really is stupid to suggest that stretching is not possible after puberty. It certainly may be easier - more rapidly successful - at or prior to puberty, but nothing critical marks the end of puberty.
You will notice I tend to avoid questions regarding how long the process will take.
I really am interested in what "network settings" were causing you trouble, and what other sites were similarly affected (for example, that picture below)? Such a problem might affect others you see. What happened when you directly navigated foreskin.org?
Your frænulum does appear quite within the bounds of normality, though on the other hand, it would be perfectly reasonable to stretch it. It appears reasonably substantial, not particularly likely to be torn, but if indeed you have rough intercourse, it certainly could be painful. Your meatus is rather cute, with very distinct "lips". Possibly unusual, but as ever, of no particular consequence (other than perhaps, allowing you to pee with great precision!).
I think you have got the idea. There are many things that could lead to less than satisfactory intercourse (with or without a condom and incidentally, why?), only one of which is the frænulum. Lubrication, lubrication, lubrication - probably the most critical point always.
If you say you cannot see either of the images I linked on any browser, then you really have a problem. What about the image below? Someone is mucking about with your internet access. Do you perhaps have a "parental filter" or "Net Nanny" in operation?
Here is an illustration of what we mean by the stretching! Perhaps I should not however, advertise the site on which it is found.
Of course, it is not actually an illustration of someone stretching a tight foreskin, because people rarely choose to document the process (and blog about it on a site which provides us with a permanent recourse to the pictures), but it certainly demonstrates the approach vividly.
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