I was out shooting the other day when i noticed i could hear and smell the CO2 leaking from my 1077. This is strange as it is very new, i have probably been through 5 or so CO2's in total now but it was definitely leaking. It sounded to be coming from inside where the pellets are lying in front of the barrel. I live in Canada so there are no crosman centers to take it for repair so i'm unsure of how to deal with this problem. Has anyone else had the same dificulties and knows of any way i can fix this problem or know of any canadian places one can take their air rifle to for repairs.
Which province are you in Canada? I know in Ontario they have a Crosman depot here up in Peterbrough about 1.5 hours drive from Toronto.
I don't have the crosman 1-800 off hand but I'm sure if you search on http://www.canada411.com under CROSMAN I'm sure you'll find your answer.
BTW anyone know of any threads on the Crosman CK92 pistol then can give me a link to please. My safety won't allow me to turn it on without my pulling the hammer back to turnt he safety on. It did not do that before. THanks in advance guys.
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PS: Matthew I think if I recall right you're the owner of this forum. Well I found your site a fwe days ago and have to say I have been enjoying it ever since. Hope to see more mods on the 1077 and people posting pictures on how-to's. Keep pushing the envelope guys because it's the only way new designs/idea come out :D
Actually yeah I lived right around Toronto, I had assumed that all of the Crosman depots were located down in the States. Thanks a bunch for your help, i'll take my gun up there for repairs.
Cool. Are you in the city, boonies, or farm area? I'm in the city area. I'm just curious because I'd like to try out hunting ad I'd like to know more about airguns and shooting them for I know up north there is a gun range in Stoffville called UNITED SHOOTING SUPPLIES or RANGE. Your http://www.yellowpages.ca will find it if you type "guns" and look in there for "gunsmiths".
Well that range charges $40/hour if I recall what the lady told me. They almost laughed when I told them "airguns". I guess you need to buy a Barnes .50cal airgun and shoot out the star(s) then they'll look at airguns with a different view. I don't under estimate airguns for I know they will only grow stronger and improve. In like the last 10years airguns have broken the sound barrier and gone supersonic as well as going past the .25cal mark with .32/.355 aka 9mm/.44/.308/.50/.56 cal airguns out there.
Yeah i don't live right in the city, up in the suberbs, i live in Brampton. I've tried out a little hunting in the woods near my house. Its kinda tough with 1077 you gotta get pretty close and be accurate if you want to do much to any sort of animal. I live up near the North edge of the city so I often just drive up north 15 minutes or so park the car and just walk out into the bush to look around find some birds or anything of the sort.
Yeah I forgot about the velocity diference. 400 something fps compared to 650 fps. Big diference. So is it really possible to kill something with the canadian version?
Well let me check my backyard kill tally here. I live DEEP in a urban city with a medium sized backyard. I can take shots in the backyard no problems but in the front yard it's too risky. Last thing I want is to have SWAT bending me over and giving me the probe to put it quote crudely.
HITS (confirmed and retrived)
American Crows : 8
Pidgeons : 1 (I think they are pidgeons. I have yet to confirm the bird but it's a smokey grey bird with a light blueish head. I did take a picture if and when this BBS's UPLOAD works)
For the MISC I shot at yesterday, I think the 2 birds where smaller American Crows. I shot one in the chest and it fell and it's partner was (assumingly) shocked and was looking at the downed bird when I nailed the other in the chest as it froze for a second. They fell on the neighbours side so I climbed the fence (not tresspassing on land for I was on my side of the fence) but sitting humpty dumpty looking for confirmation of downed birds but I think they hid in my neighbours garden.)
One average sized American Crow I shot yesterday fell but oddly I can't find the body so I added that to my GOT AWAY count. I stayed in position with the scope watching it fall off the tree and making sure the shot did not hit the siding of the backyard/backstreet neighbours house siding. Seeing how the bird fell I knew the shot connected bird otherwise I might have heard a echo of the shot hitting the house which would have been bad. I always try to make sure I have a clear shot before firing like making sure the shot will go into the air and not into a house with one exception to the rule where one house behind me is mostly brick with no backdoor which if I shoot the shot will go into the brick and not like my immediate neighbour right behind me where htey have a big sliding door. Also I think the centre backyard neighbours might be a bit shocked at my shooting the birds for I saw some lady looking at me shooting a few birds that landed on my lawn.
Out of the 3 GOT AWAY pidgeons I have to say just about 3-4 days ago I took a risky morning shot in the front yard around 0530ish but sure as hell before 0700 in the morning when next to no one was around. I'm Eastern time by the way. Now the 1077 was using the co2's I mentioned in a recent thread (check the danm posts!) and the shots felt soft of hissy and not like with the old black box co2's with a good bang for about 30 shots.
The bird I was shooting was that unconfirmed pidgeon type bird. The shots kept dropping like stones so I had to take a few "drop shots" to hit the bird. I hit the bird I'd say 2-3 times. There was a lot of feathers shed so I knowI did hit it. Now this bird is a bit more tolerent to humans then the American Crow which flies off if you try to get close. I know the bird was hit and downed but It was already around 0630ish so I could not risk walking about 5 yards from my pouch in the middle of the driveway to take a shot because at that time of day people might be waking up about to go out. If I'm correct it was a Sunday and people leave early for church. I was feeling bad already for leaving a bird like that so I was trying to catch it without people seeing me but it's kind of hard when you're on someone elses lawn with no cover you're a bright orange jacket in a goth club to give you an idea of how it woudld stand out.
Now I can't let the bird sit on the left neighbours lawn and I can't risk shooting anymore at that time so what option did I have? Wel I was thinking of bow and arrowing it but I need a crosbow for silent shots and my recurve arrows where too long. The bottom line was the time of day. I was thinking of taking my CK92 pistol but that rings off around 70db and will put me on a blip on the radar if someone else on the street was looking and wondering whyI was standing on someone elses property. So, what did I do now people are thinking. I walked up to the bird to try to bag it in a bag but it was running away slowly but fluttering. I REALLY now was feeling crappy for it's like having your arms broken and running. I saw one confirmed shot in the uppper wing and I think in the body. It was a larger bird then the American crow.
So I had to do something seeing how I can't bag the bird in the bag and it was about 0650ish now and close to 0700. So I kept wakling to scare the bird off the left neighbours lawn first to try to make it look like a downed bird then a shot bird on thier property. The problem was that the bird kept going to the left side of the lawn and side walk and not near my side where I can perhaps later if still on my lawn can take a shot so I just kept taking a walk around like I was walking down the street and picked up some fallen branches to throw to make the bird go on the road. Well once I got the bird on the road I was happy because when I walked back the bird made it up to the driveway of the house adjacent to my driveway so I knew it was at least er.. out of my immediate area.
Oh yes, when the bird was on the sidewalk before it went on the road a 2 people where walking a dog and stopped to see this bird shot up. Now it felt odd to be in that position while I was faking it to yank weeds off my lawn they stopped and stared at the bird then looked at me as if they thought I did it or just looking at me becauseI'm the only one out at that time. Boy did I feel crap that day. I sure hope my left neighbour does not go on thier roof anytime soon because I have 2 shotdown confirmed birds there. One American Crow and one pidgeon type.
Well that's my long story there. My lesson I learned is to get a blowgun or a mini pistol crowbow off Ebay for those 1-2 yard close ups where you're in a bad postion (like time of day) or when you need a shot while not being too conspicious. This is one of the times I wished I had a silencer. Backyard I can live with without a silencer for it's my backyard but in the frontyard you have to be VERY DAMN CAREFUL! I mean more careful then the backyard so people don't freak out. SO far I've not heard anyone call the cops so they seem to have grown accustomed (spelling?) to the sound and associated that with airguns which I am happy with in the mean time. Then again I don't have a good relationship with my frontyard left and right neighbours as well as my backyard over the back fence backcentre/backleft/backright neighbours so I have to be a lot more careful then most others. We just don't talk to each other because we kind of hate each other but the last thing I want is the airgun sport/hobby I like to get targeted by some prickish neighbour thinking I'm out to kill them, thier family, thier pets, etc you can think up.
Bottom line, be careful.
Oh yes Matthew, I think some stories or topics should be kept into the exsisting topics in place. I mean some topics I see coming up like the new SILENCER post should have been in the 1077 SILENCER post then make a new one. That's my view on that making new topics thing on somethings. Well I'm off to read more posts. If you all made it this far I hope you learned something today from my story and please I always love hearing feedback so drop me your views on the post. Don't make it worst then it already is for me for I feel crappy over letting a heavily wounded bird get away already. And yes the 1077 needs up close for accuracy for sure.
Canadian 1077's are supposity 495 FPS but that's crosman probably using 4.5grain something named ultra lights to get that number. I'm sure it's about 420-430 FPS with 7.9grain crosman pointed/dome/wads. I was using Beeman HP pellets. I think they are called silverbear but for sure they are not called Crow Magnums. Adam would know which kind for they sell them at Canadian Tire.
Say what's the difference on the 1077 vs the new 1077?
I know the new 1077 has a larger co2 knob and fiber optic sights. Anything else? Thanks in advance.
Speaking of 495 and 600 FPS. I thinkt he Canadian models give more shots then the USA one I think. Seeing how the 1077 is practically the staple airgun around most of the place I be you can ship a 1077 USA model over into Canada and no one will know it's a 600 FPS airgun unless you chono with ultralights.
I think the USA model will shoot 7.9grains at about 540-550 fps.
I can hook you up with a usa model. But you have to pay me for the gun and the shipping. Gun is around 50 - 7o depends where you get it. I might be able to find a remanufactored one somewhere for 25.00
I have done this before with the gun buying and sending it to canada. Say you wouldnt still have your original canadian box would you?
The only difference beetween the new 1077 and the older model is the new one has diferent threading in the co2 tube, a black stock, fiberoptic sights, and a diferent hammer spring.
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July 24 2003, 4:05 PM
Aren't you unable to order American airguns that are over 500 fps into Canada. I know a friend of mine bought a Walther Air pistol online that wasn't even over 500 fps and customs seized it from him. And as for pellet questions, at Canadian tire pellets are pretty much all copperhead.
Matthew (Login darkstarops) Forum Owner 24.221.137.64
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July 24 2003, 4:53 PM
Yes its illegal for the whole gun. But I was just thinking about the valve mainly. But I have gotten a 650 fps 1077 to canada before. I put it in the canadian version box and re sealed everything. To make everyone think its a canadain 1077 in a canadian box!
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July 25 2003, 9:18 AM
Adam:
Well many people I know have 1200 FPS airugns here. Some companies don't print thier FPS on the box like RWS Career 707 (my ShinSung in Korea).
I've recieved a few airguns before that are over 500 fps in Canada. It's all out how you word it on the declare paper. If you just put something vauge like "air pistol" then for sure if I was a customs officer I'd take a look myself. It's all about how you word it. If it's concpicious then it will raise alarm to the customs to check it. I really doubt the customs will chrono the airguns for they have better things to do.
The info above is this year and quite recent and not pre-9/11. I know for a FACT that any real firearm parts will have a good chance being subjected to customs from someone I know that worked on the border told me.
The best way to send stuff without getting hit with customs and duty costs is to have someone send it to you. If a store sents it to you, in my experiance 9/10 times you'll end up having to pay duty/customs costs on it because the package is coming from a business and the goverment just loves to hold your items for ransom if you don't pay up the duty/customs fees. In a way, the goverment has you by the nuts if you have a busines ship items to you. Now if it's a friend that sends the item to you and marks the item as a GIFT and a low low value on the item (once again from my experiance) it's about 1/30 times you'll get hit wiht duty/customs. The best way to get stuff up here is to write on the declare that it's "broken parts".
As you see it's all in the way you word it. Now about the RWS707. I have to say it's a fun airugn to shoot. 700-1200 fps and it's been chrono'd at 1250fps before at some website (not a store but a fan of the gun) which I don't have handy. The down side of the RWS707 is it's weight. I find the weight to be heavier at the front. But the RWS707 is a example of FUNCTION OVER FORM. It's not the best looking but it's all raw in power/legendary RWS accuracy/ruggedly built like a tank.
I don't know if you ever fixed your gun, but I just read the post. My gun started leaking all of a sudden out of the blue. Wasted a whole CO2 Powerlet, because it just wouldn't seal. So I took it apart one day and found that the piercing assembly (forget what they call it exactly) needed adjusted. You can screw it in(away from Powerlet), or out(toward Powerlet) to ensure a proper seal. Once you look at it you'll probably know wich way it needs to go. When you remove the stock from the rest of the gun, there's a slot/opening near the niple of the powerlet that alows you to see the piercing assembly. Anyway, it worked for me.