like 2 or 3 weeks ago me and my mate andy were working our way up the bush by the harbour and the bush was like moving and had some sound coming from it and so andy shot the 1077 into it and like there was this howel and this insane dog came out and i dropped and he dropped and he emptyed the remainer 11 in the 1077 and i was carrying my winchester 722x (.22 700fps break barrel) and i broke the barrel grabbed a slug and closed it and the mut was about 10 m away and bang got im in the head and he just fell to the ground , im not sure how many of the 12 shots got it but we did a mini autopsy and there were 2 holes on the chest 1 on the leg and one on the side , but the big one under the eye was from the winchester , it had to be a fluke but im so lucky i got it or it would of been stock whipping yes stock whipping its kind of pistol whipping but with the stock.
O_o;; I think a bottle of ammonia would have been better spraying it at the dogs nose while running as it was on your literal heels.
I hope the dog was not someone's pet because then that would have been an earful from the owner of the dog. I wonder if those little ground snappers (you know the little white wick style snappers you throw to the ground and they give a snaping sound. I think they are called cherry bombs.) would help scare the dog if you dropped it while you're running and the dog would get scared and run away. On the other hand if the dog had rabies and you downed it you're lucky you did not get bit.
people die every year in hunting accidents because someone heard a sound in the bushes, and took a shot at it. Half the time it's a kid playing, ot their hunting partner taking a crap. The FIRST rule of shooting is to know exactly what and where your bullet is going. I took my first hunter safety course when I was 13, and in the 37 years since it is one rule I always respect. I don't have any problems with shooting a rabid dog, but sounds in the bush ... ....Roy
yea we get these possums that live out in the bush and there are canibus plantations in the waitackerie and rimitucker rangers. the dope growers use these chemicals that make the plants bigger and sometimes a possum will eat a plant, the effect makes it want more and more and more and these chemicals build up in its system and make them the size of a horse. sometimes you need a .50bmg for possum hunting. like fucken hell check out what the weed did to this harmless little kiwi.
yea you miss out on about 20 kg's of meat with the exit hole from the .50 projectile. but my mate dave gets around that by running them down with his ute.
I thought that was photoshopped. THat looks like it it's about human height. God damn. Someone get me a URL on these birds. I'm really intrigued now to read up on them. Once again, god damn!
Ok, I just saw this squirrel outside in the tree about say 2-3 yards max. I ran down to the basement and got the 1077 and had a clip of Beeman Silver Bear HP's preloaded into the mag (but the gun was unloaded because I stored it unloaded) and ran back up stairs while loading the gun on the way out. I was surprised the squirrel froze for a sec while looking at me witht his little golfball sized apple in it's mouth. Now the tree it was in was a pussy willow right beside the roof of my house. I know the squirrels sometimes hop on the roof run to the pussy willow then jump onto the neighbours roof.
Well seeing how the squirrel froze I tried to calm down for my heart must have been at about 120 PBM from running down then up on the stairs to get the gunt hen go out. I raised the rifle then fired for the head. I know it hit the head for the squirrel knocked it's head back a bit from the force. It started moving up the tree for cover and I think protection when I rapid fired 3 shots into it's body and when it froze againand I had about literally 1.5 seconds on the scope to see the squirrel head I shot the head again from my original position which was standing at my door.
So I saw confirmation red what looked like fresh blood on the head during that 1.5 second stare in the scope so I know the first shot hit the head then fired for the head again. This time the squirrel flinched and I thought I got the bugger as it was slowly decending the pussy willow then all of a sudden like it reached a powerup in a video game it had full energy and bolted up the tree and stood on the neighbours roof. This time there were some branches and leaves between the squirrel head and my shot so I moved a bit but still ther where branches which might absorb the shots so I aimed for the body and nailed the squirrel in the body again with 3 shots rapid fire.
Now the squirrel was slow and sluggish but still it ran off on the neighbours roof then onto the other persons roof and then up a tree like 4 houses down. Now I can't walk on the front lawn with a gun down 4 houses to check on the squirrel. Swat would probably beat me down by the time I got tot he 3 house.
Mind you I was in the backyard at that time shooting. I'm amazed at the squirrel taken that many shots and still moving. When I recount how many shots I fired I totaled head - 3, body - 6. That is either one Joe rockhead squirrel or one kevlar skinned bugger for I know when I downed a smaller squirrel before (note my post before on beginners fluke luck) and it was shot in the shoulder. I'm starting to think that the smaller squirrels might be easier to take because they have less tissue to absorb the shock/shot.
[BTW, I should state that I am trying to kill these pests humanely. I am hoping the information shared here will avoid wounded animals getting away.]
Your details sound about right.
Originally I was expecting 1 hit to stop them (squirrels), but they can absorb more than that without falling out of the tree.
I have hit a couple with 1-2 shots and not stopped them. Fortuneately the morons come back for more food and finally killed. It has taken up to about 5-6 hits to bring down the most rugged ones.
I have been replacing the CO2 cart after 24 shots to maintain high end velocity. I also try to maintain a full magazine. As I said earlier, it can take several to get them out of the tree, then a few more head shots to assure I have put them out of their misery.
I had noticed after a few shots the pellet penetration (velocity) is low. In one case (after several shots), I noticed the pellet had only penetrated the skin and had not went through his ribs. The pellet buldged just below the skin.
Without the 1077 Semi-auto capability, it would be very difficult to bring them down. I think a single hit from a higher velocity gun might not do it.
Well I'm not sure if it's the Canadian squirrels and thier "thick armor" or "tissue".
I to hate to leave a wounded prey to get away. It seems to me that the 1077 at high-mid and mid-low velocity can take out birds the size of a cardinal or smaller. When it comes to taking out squirrels I was using I think a mid power then for I did take some birds before. The thing that gets me is that with 3 head shots landed the squirrel kept on going. In total I counted 9 spent rounds when I took my clip out. No missed shots for they all landed on the squirrel. Perhaps the 1077 using SilverBear HP's does not have enough power for the HP to expand unless someone wants to take this challenge and prove me wrong.
From all I've heard the pointed rounds lack accuracy because they are not as aerodynamic as the the domed. I have heard that if you're close range then a pointed would give a good kick on the prey as it will have more power to penetrate. I've yet to try that. I'm well stocked on Crosman Domed 7.9 .177's here.
I think I might try using the domed rounds on the squirrels if I have another chance. I don't hunt when it comes to my prey. I shoot by chance if they turn up in the backyard. I'm mostly a target shooter but this year I've shifted to backyard shooting.
Here is a tip for all the bird hunters or people wanted some advice. For me the wadcutter works on the birds. The flat head gives a good flat shock and also seals the bore for (what I precieve as) more FPS. The SilverBear HP's are good too but I think it's the semi wadcutter in the SilverBear design that shocks the bird then the HP expending.
I tried once to recover the HP round fired into a cardinal. I had a exacto knife handy hoping to recover the round and examine it for the impact effect but I kept looking and looking and cutting and cutting but never found the round. I was stumbed. I did not see any exit wound so the round had to be in the body. Well after a literally bloodly mess I still could not find the round so I ended up putting the bird into a composter in hopes for some better ferterlizer for the garden in spring.
I think the next time I down a bird I'll try using a wadcutter and see if I can find the round in the body of the prey.
I think I just nailed a squirrel for it pulled a 180 on my on the fence but the problem is that in my backyard I'm flanked by 3 houses in the backyard without any wooden fence. I shot the squirrel on the right-backyard side but the guys behind me have the back blinds open so I'm not sure to recover the squirrel or not because that would mean I'd have to climb into another persons backyard and that would be tresspassing.
Oh well. I'll go now to see if it was a confirm kill. It was 5 mins ago when I nailed that squirrel in the head. On a fresh 12gram co2 today and a fresh 12round mag I've only fired 2 shots. Once to a squirrel this morning at 3 yards and the one right now which was at about 4 yards.
I hope the neighbours aren't pricks and calling the cops on airgunners shooting in the backyard safely.
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Squirrel dowing is confirmed. This is my second squirrel downing. If I can retrieve it fromt he other side of the fence without people seeing me (it's 1230 EST, light drizzle, cloudly, 11C, with a 5-7% mist fog/haze) then I can see if my shot landed in the head. Seeing how the squirrel pulled a 180 degree flip right away I think my shot did hit the head.
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This message has been edited by Glooko from IP address 66.185.85.76 on Nov 11, 2003 10:30 AM
I shot a possum with my 1077 at my grandparents house and i have the airsource pakage. It took 4 shots to the head to slow him down and 7 more to kill him. After that my g-ma got pissed and i cant bring the gun to their house anymore. I cant believe that it took someone 40 shots!!! Thats alot.
me my brother and 2 cousins in the woods. we saww sumthing moving. i thought it was a rat i told them to hold there fire. i shot 1 bb at it hit in the chest. it started to run at us i reloaded and i told them to the commands then they followed. about 30 feet we took aimed fully loaded 3 of us using pellets (all except me i was using bb's). now 25 i gave the order 2 fire we all hit it. long story short it died. we checked how much ammo it was hit around 40 times 15 only made through the skin 25 made into body organs. took us 7 minutes to kill it. then i stabed it when i walked up to it to chack if it was dead a safety caustion.
I spent about 2 hours at a bird feader near the can/us boarder last summer waiting for a a suirrl and i actuly shot him from 34ft or about 11 mters, and i got himn in the eye it went strait into his brian and caused him to have a siesure or something and i quickly shot him repededly with the remaineing 11 rounds i was useing assortedly random pellets outa a old box i found in my basement. in the end i needed to reload the mag and walk up to him with my smaller breakbreal pistol to kill him.
