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POS Crosman AS2250XT- New but beware

September 15 2003 at 6:29 PM
  (Login Chazgreen)
from IP address 68.2.182.17

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Just received a new AS2250XT and when I screwed the 88 gm tank on the rifle the system leaked out all the co2 from the input port to the breech port. When talking to the service reps here (2) they had no idea and I have to send the rifle back to the factory. For a single shot rifle I will stay with my Beeman R-7
@R-9. Crosman airguns are designed as BB guns with mods to use pellets. Get what you pay for... But the AS2250XT cost $120, not $40!! I paid $50 for my 1077 at walmart and besides having a mushy trigger that no one can fix, it shoots well for a trainer. I guess I have no alternative but to send this POS back and get another one!Frustrating

 
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Matthew
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66.80.212.66

Yeah!

September 15 2003, 6:32 PM 

Someone else was talking about the same thing. about the 2250xt. I like the 1077. Rapid fire, accurate, has a clip, and the best of all its the cheapest semi-automatic pellet rifle out there.



P.S.
I am working on the trigger!

 
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(Login Chazgreen)
68.2.182.17

1077 trigger

September 15 2003, 7:01 PM 

When you get it figured out let me know. I like trigger jobs, especially down to 2 lbs. As I understand it the trigger assembly is plastic? If someone could replicate the critial parts in metal then we may stand a chance.

I guess it is like all new things, wait a few years until they get the design flaws fixed.

thanks

 
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Matthew
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Re: 1077 trigger

September 15 2003, 9:39 PM 

I can milla new trigger with no problem! But it is a fierce and complicated design with the rest of the firing mechanisims. Hvaent you ever had it apart?

 
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(no login)
68.2.182.17

Trigger job

September 15 2003, 11:36 PM 

No I have not. I am the type that says if it ain't broke don't try to fix it. Actually I am a mechanical engineer and know quite a bit about the triger systems on Metal formulated parts. I just do not have the time to justify redesigning the mechanism. I would hope that Crosman would follow other airgun companies and design in a 2 stage adjustable trigger. I would think that this would only add $5-10 to the retail price but would increase their reputation and sales by 100X. Look at the China air guns, for less than $100 you can get a 800+ FPS rifle with a 2 stage adj trigger.

How hard would it be for them to use the beeman design trigger system. It has been out of patent for more than 5 years. Use even the simplist as in the R7.


 
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(Login aaron_c_nz)
203.96.202.33

blowback trigger

September 16 2003, 1:28 AM 

it would need to have some type of blowback like the walther ppk to make the trigger like slight pull , the reason it is such a hard pull is because you are pulling the hammer back inside that compresses the spring that hits the valve and releases the gas and shoots the pellet out. Im in the process of buying a bulk system and putting a harder spring in the trigger so it will release more gas thus making the pellet get a higher velocitiy. once i get it bulked and going 700-750 fps (what i recon i could crank it up to) iwill work on making a mag that holds heeps. more than 12 somthing like 30 would be good , ive got 2 weeks off school and im going to work on the 1077 hard out.

 
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(Login EllBee)
208.187.14.82

1077 Trigger

September 16 2003, 3:26 PM 

Charles:

It's not hard to use a R1 type trigger in a 1077, it's downright impossible. The R1 trigger is a "single action" setup - all it does is release the piston. The gun is cocked and loaded by other means. In the 1077 pulling the trigger advances the magazine, cocks and releases the hammer. It would take a complete redesign of the whole magazine/hammer/sear/trigger system to get a worthwhile trigger in the 1077. For Crosman it's a business decision - would increased profits justify the extra cost of redesign and retooling? They'd have to sell it for a lot more, so would fewer or more people be willing to pay for it? A custom maker might be willing to give it a try, but how much would you pay for a parts kit for a $50 gun? I'd bet the cost of a kit like that would be at least the cost of the gun.

 
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charles Green
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68.2.182.17

Thanks for the info

September 16 2003, 4:18 PM 

I understand that the trigger pull us heavy as it is doing all the things you said. I was hoping for a detent or notch position just when the sear was in position to drop and open the have valve port.
appreciate your help. Thanks

 
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Mick Carter
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193.116.28.254

1077 T gas leak

October 2 2003, 3:49 AM 

I recently bought one of the new Air Source models in the UK. I fitted the adaptor and gas bottle as per instructions, but upon opening the valve, the gas leaked away.
The rifle was replaced by the UK importer and I noticed that the new adaptor tube had a completely different finish to the first one. It was also noticed that the adaptor nut did not bottom out on the rifle fitting as was the case with the first sample.
This would suggest that the first sample did not have a long enough tube to make contact with the rifle seal.

As a matter of interest, the faulty adaptor tube had a black finish whereas the replacement was plain brass.

 
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Glooko
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66.185.85.76

Tactical small sized air guns/rifles.

November 4 2003, 8:05 AM 

I've always loved the look and feel on the 2250 for it's small profile. It's a good thing I read here about the unfortunate happening that happened to Charles and Mick.

I wish they would make more low profile airguns that you can take outside on a trip with say 25 co2's or a bulk fill that would fit in a backpack like the 2250.

I love the outdoors but the 1077 is NOT a easy rifle to carry around without raising a few eyebrows. This is where the aluminum case comes into play for normal look. If you carry a case that looks like a gun you're sure to get some reactions. With a long rectangular silver case at least people can think all they want. Hey it can be 4 clarinets for all they care as long as it does not scare people but the downside of that is the bloody weight of the case and silver flashiness that gives off your position if you're in the woods.

I've seen at http://www.compasseco.com they have a pistol by Tech Force that is a multi pump with a wire stock that shoots 10 rounds off a clip (not mag). Now that's a nice package but I need to see some reviews from people I know about it first. It's hard to get a hands on feel on guns up here in the great white north. Also Canadian Tire is repulsive (more like ANAL, excuse the foul language) towards returns on airguns for ANY REASON it seems.

Glooko

..."In Glock we trust"

 
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Glooko
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66.185.85.76

Re: Tactical small sized air guns/rifles.

November 4 2003, 8:21 AM 

Aaron:

I'm surprized no one has made a rotating "elevator" style magazine for a rifle yet. I mean the Anics SKIFF-3000A has been out for about 1 - 1.5 years now. I'd expect someone to come out with a modified rifle design.

They can make the money back up by selling spare magazines with the elevator column.

Just an idea out there for any DIY or any big wigs reading.

Oh yes. www.anics.com is the website for the Glock style pistol.

Glooko

..."In Glock we trust"

 
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Glooko
(Login Glooko)
66.185.85.76

Re: Re: Tactical small sized air guns/rifles.

November 4 2003, 8:26 AM 

Here is a quick jump to picture of the "elevator" magazine system. It is just sexy. I'm amazed why they did not have this done 5-7 years ago.

http://www.anics.com/eskif4.html

Glooko

..."In Glock we trust"

 
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