ive had my crossman 1077 for 2 years now and want to ether upgrade it or buy another one. i want to beable to kill rabbits, squirrels, and other smalll rodents and birds very easily so basically more fps and killing power. i havent done anything to my gun. what do u think i should do? i have a limit of $150 i could go more but i better make sure. thanks

but a fun plinker in my opinion. I would suggest a Benjamin 392; great little pumper that will last a lifetime. I would also suggest a QB 78; a chinese CO2 copy of a Crosman 116 that is dead accurate out of the box (at least my was). CO2 is not good in really cold weather, but if you'll be hunting in a warmer area like me, in Florida, the gas gun is the way to go. Both the guns above are .22, but you can get a Benji 397 or QB 77 in .177 if you should choose. I personally prefer and recommend small game hunting guns in .22 for more killing power. [www.airgunexpress has remanufactured Benji 392s for $75 + shipping; that would leave you with a lot of pellet dollars. The QB 78 can be had for $71.96 + shipping @ www.compasseco.com; leaving you w/plenty of CO2 & pellet bucks]. Both of these guns are up for mods if you should choose and they really become awesome game getters.

Just my two cents.

Jay

if i put nitro on my 1077 would that boost the power or would i just get a better consistancey of shoots?
and would i be pushing the envelope if i wanted a 800-1000fps, pellet repeater that runs off of c02, doesnt look that fancy(like wood stock), scope mounts, not that heavy, 22., doesnt cost too much, fast, or am i just crazy?
how much mor fps can u get if i tamper with my 1077? thanks

nitro in a 1077 would boost the power if you had the psi regulated to a higher pressure than co2 would at that temperature. You would also get many less shots than co2 with the same resavore size. As far as your dream gun... there is none. A 1077 would be close but it is not .22 and it has a much slower velocity. Im not sure what max velocity you could get out of your 1077 as i have not messed with the valve yet and i dont have a chrony. I think with a fully modded 1077 you could get near 800 fps especiallly if you added a longer barrel.

thanks for all the info. i will probably get another gun but not sure. if there are any other guns that u would recomend, please post them. thanks

if you want a good quality cheap gun to take small game a Benjamin 392 should work well. As mentioned above, the raman is a great way to save money on an already well priced rifle. If you take care of this thing expect it to last a life time plus it should have sufficiant power to take game and they are suprisingly acurrate. There are tons of choices out there so do some research and make an educated decision. Good luck.

I should have mentioned that some of the Chinese springers are awesome guns in your price range ($110-$140). I would suggest a Xisco/BAM B20 or B21. Both are available in .177 or .22. You might want to research these two guns, check the "yellow forum" @ http://www.network54.com/Forum/113813. Springers are tempermental as to how you shoot them, but I adjusted rather quickly. Of course I would suggest one in .22. The B20 is based on the Beeman R9 (break barrel) and throws a .22 pellet @ around 700 fps while the B21 is based on the RWS48 (side cocking lever) and throws a .22 pellet @ about 800 fps. Both good springers. The B20 won't be available until August or September.

Jay

is this the ticket?
Tech Force 99 Magnum Also known as Shanghai Chinese Air rifle QB36-2?

Uhmm...I haven't had any problems killing rabbits with my 1077. At first I had thought there was a problem with power but, since getting a scope and an 88 gram tank, I've been knocking them down left and right.

If you want a good air rifle for larger game and longer-range kills, you're going to need a lot more than a 1077. 1077s are good for birds, rats and the such, but like skunks and raccoons? You need a .22, preferably over 750 fps. The only really powerful .22 air rifles for under $150 are the Benjamin Sheridans... there are the Tech Force springers, but they have horrid Quality Control and there's too great a risk of getting a rifle with absolutely horrid accuracy. A "lemon gun". If you're willing to put up more cash, Beeman makes decent .22 rifles, like the GH1000, which is $250 or so. No, they aren't as precisely accurate as RWS but they get the job done. There are cheaper Beemans for as little as $140, though their power and handling won't be as good. It's up to you. Hi-power and multi-shot typically don't go together though, unless you want to pay upwards of $350, but then you're pretty much restricted to .177 pellets.

try the walther rifle very nice