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question about the 112 round clips

April 30 2009 at 11:24 PM
  (Login birdmove)
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Has anyone had accuracy problems they were able to trace to bad clips? I read where one owner of a Baikal/IZH model 61, a springer that uses a clip, found that quite a few of the clips were apparently made sub-standard causing accuracy problems. He bought a bunch of extra clips and found groups varied in size depending on which clips he used in the gun.

Just a thought

Jon

 
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(Login Pellethd)
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you mean TWELVE (12), right?

July 6 2009, 6:28 PM 

Since Russia and New York are pretty far away from each other, I don't think the mfg. defect infection will spread throughout the plastic repeater mechanism manufacturing world. That is surprising to hear that the IZH would have any defect, what so ever. Crosman, sure, but Baikal? Really? Hmmm...I only own the 514K so I can only say that it works as well as the 1077, although you must cock it between each round as it's a springer (bullpup). It only shoots 8, but the clips allow longer pellets than the 1077.

 
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MP514K v Crosman 1077

July 31 2009, 1:10 PM 

Do you really think the 514K works as well as the 1077? I think that the two are so different that you cannot compare. As you stated, it's a springer v. a C02 powerplant. The 1077 is a true repeater, no lever action between shots. That's about the only good thing about it in box stock form. It's no 10m competition gun. It's more a good starter AG for children IMO.

The 514K is more accurate than the 1077 once you get the knack of the proper hold down, the biggest problem I have seen many posts on. But if you just think of it as a reverse springer and hold it as such - mainly hold it tight on the pistol grip, barely let it into your shoulder and brace the underforestock, it gets much more accurate.

The 1077 and it's erratic power has horrible accuracy, again IMO. A Daisy Red Ryder is better than a 1077 with regard to accuracy unless you do all the recommended changes to it.

On your 514, are you going to put in the quest/gamo spring, and port the load entry to 3.5mm to get the 50% more power as I saw one poster had done on the Airgun Forum?

Don't misconstrue my post as a bash on the 1077, it's still a fun little toy, as is the MP514K. But both are not as accurate as other guns available from either mfg. in same price range, eg. IZH61 and the

 
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Re: question about the 112 round clips

July 7 2009, 9:14 AM 

Not sure which story you heard. But I heard a similar story re the IZY-61. I think they use a softer (rubber??) material for their clip. The vibration from the gun during a firing cycle was causing some pellets to shift or fall out of worn-out clips. I don't have an Izzy, but that's the story I heard.

I just took my 1077 plinking yesterday. Out of 7 magazines, I only had 1 flyer. I was using Crosman wadcutters (milk carton). When I was reloading the 7 mags I just used, I noticed about 3 or 4 pellets felt loose going in. But that's a pellet problem, not the magazine.

 
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