Pregnancy and Parenting After DE IVF

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  1. and Question two: kids 5 and 2 one bedroom? View entire thread - birdy1600 on Mar 19, 2015, 12:36 PM
    1. Mine currently share by choice - Ariadne on Mar 19, 2015, 7:33 PM
    2. Re: and Question two: kids 5 and 2 one bedroom? - FL Gal on Mar 19, 2015, 8:03 PM
    3. I've thought about this - thesameboat on Mar 20, 2015, 12:44 AM
    4. We have done it all Birdie and here are my thoughts.....m - Hope2009 on Mar 21, 2015, 12:55 AM
      1. these r so helpful!!! - birdy1600 on Mar 21, 2015, 3:24 PM
    5. This is a great question - Al on Mar 23, 2015, 8:48 PM
      1. Re: This is a great question - FL Gal on Mar 24, 2015, 8:01 AM
    6. Birdy, just saw this article & thought of you - Ariadne on Mar 28, 2015, 3:12 PM
     
  2. baby bird is GROWING UP!!! kindy questions for next year!! View entire thread - birdy1600 on Mar 19, 2015, 12:31 PM
    1. Still no desks here - Ariadne on Mar 19, 2015, 7:35 PM
    2. Re: baby bird is GROWING UP!!! kindy questions for next year!! - FL Gal on Mar 19, 2015, 8:01 PM
    3. No desk here - shayrose on Mar 20, 2015, 10:46 AM
    4. Our older kids have desks in their rooms....m - Hope2009 on Mar 21, 2015, 1:08 AM
    5. Sarah still has the Step2 art desk - BlessedThistle on Mar 23, 2015, 10:54 AM
    6. They need help with homework until probably 3rd grade at least - Kenny on Mar 25, 2015, 8:50 AM
     
  3. Article we can all relate to View entire thread - shayrose on Mar 18, 2015, 10:11 AM
    1. Yep, someone posted a similar blog post . . . - Maggie in VA on Mar 18, 2015, 1:52 PM
     
  4. Stem cell technology coming along sooner than expected? View entire thread - Maggie in VA on Mar 17, 2015, 11:49 AM
    1. I hope so - De2 on Mar 17, 2015, 1:26 PM
    2. That's exciting - FL Gal on Mar 17, 2015, 8:20 PM
      1. True, and what's up with that? - Maggie in VA on Mar 18, 2015, 7:36 AM
        1. by the way - De2 on Mar 18, 2015, 11:54 AM
          1. I never see anything - FL Gal on Mar 18, 2015, 6:22 PM
            1. Re: I never see anything - De2 on Mar 18, 2015, 7:13 PM
              1. Wow - FL Gal on Mar 18, 2015, 9:25 PM
                1. Re: Wow - De2 on Mar 19, 2015, 5:31 AM
    3. don't think just 2 years - grace42 on Mar 19, 2015, 7:21 PM
      1. There are children from 3-parent IVF. - Maggie in VA on Mar 20, 2015, 6:53 AM
     
  5. Facebook problem (off topic) View entire thread - De2 on Mar 17, 2015, 9:15 AM
    1. Yeah, I can see how that could be tricky. - Maggie in VA on Mar 17, 2015, 11:07 AM
      1. Re: Yeah, I can see how that could be tricky. - De2 on Mar 17, 2015, 1:33 PM
    2. Get rid of her she is trouble - Thk on Mar 19, 2015, 10:16 PM
      1. Re: Get rid of her she is trouble - De2 on Mar 20, 2015, 12:42 PM
     
  6. RE: Miralax and constipation View entire thread - Renata on Mar 15, 2015, 10:17 AM
    1. We use it - gr8tful1 on Mar 15, 2015, 11:33 AM
    2. my dd is often constipated - Gotlucky2014 on Mar 15, 2015, 2:10 PM
      1. I'm not sure you can't give a 6mo soft papaya or mashed. - Maggie in VA on Mar 16, 2015, 9:39 AM
        1. that is why i was angry and wanted to call him - Gotlucky2014 on Mar 16, 2015, 4:43 PM
    3. I'd rather use Miralax than the alternatives. - Maggie in VA on Mar 16, 2015, 7:18 AM
      1. I hear you - Renata on Mar 16, 2015, 1:22 PM
        1. Hard night . . . don't know how you've survived this. - Maggie in VA on Mar 16, 2015, 8:32 PM
    4. we use it and we love it - birdy1600 on Mar 19, 2015, 12:33 PM
     
  7. Still breech, external version?? View entire thread - Jen on Mar 13, 2015, 11:09 PM
    1. Hi Jen, one of my twins was in the breech position...m - Hope2009 on Mar 15, 2015, 1:12 AM
    2. Is it the second baby? - AC in Boston on Mar 16, 2015, 9:47 AM
     
  8. opinions on carseat airport carriers View entire thread - Mrs. M on Mar 13, 2015, 12:47 PM
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  10. Renata, I added more to the thread on Bobby below. nt View entire thread - Maggie in VA on Mar 13, 2015, 11:32 AM
    1. Whew! - Renata on Mar 13, 2015, 5:10 PM
      1. Jonathan would rather die than poop in public - BlessedThistle on Mar 13, 2015, 11:01 PM
        1. Actually, that describes Freddy . . . - Maggie in VA on Mar 14, 2015, 8:13 PM
      2. The pedi told me to put him on Miralax. - Maggie in VA on Mar 14, 2015, 8:16 PM
    2. Was that a typo on his stats below? - Ann on Mar 15, 2015, 9:21 AM
      1. He may not be quite that heavy . . . - Maggie in VA on Mar 15, 2015, 8:28 PM
     
  11. Hi! New Here! Questions... View entire thread - Fan on Mar 12, 2015, 12:53 PM
    1. Re: Hi! New Here! Questions... - green.elephant on Mar 12, 2015, 6:08 PM
      1. Thanks! - Fan on Mar 13, 2015, 6:35 AM
        1. Re: Thanks! - green.elephant on Mar 13, 2015, 9:08 AM
    2. There's another thread on this below. - Maggie in VA on Mar 13, 2015, 12:11 PM
    3. Welcome Fan....m - Hope2009 on Mar 15, 2015, 2:51 AM
     
  12. Sleepovers ... what do you do? View entire thread - Leeba on Mar 12, 2015, 9:27 AM
    1. We never did sleepovers at that age when I was a kid. ETA - Maggie in VA on Mar 12, 2015, 10:11 AM
    2. I wouldn't do it at such a young age... - Maya3 on Mar 12, 2015, 11:32 AM
      1. I agree with this. Keep in mind I live in a small Texas town and most households have guns - BlessedThistle on Mar 12, 2015, 1:53 PM
        1. Aw, man, hadn't thought of that! - Maggie in VA on Mar 12, 2015, 2:00 PM
        2. I live in Texas too - De2 on Mar 15, 2015, 8:08 AM
    3. DD has had friends sleep over here - thesameboat on Mar 12, 2015, 2:41 PM
    4. Hiya! - vyrah on Mar 12, 2015, 4:03 PM
    5. nt - Anonymous on Mar 12, 2015, 6:53 PM
    6. Our compromise - sleepunders ;) - Kenny on Mar 18, 2015, 7:02 AM
    7. Hmmm - Ariadne on Mar 19, 2015, 7:44 PM
     
  13. Gift ideas for girl/boy twins aged 5 View entire thread - E&H on Mar 11, 2015, 11:50 PM
    1. Some ideas - Leeba on Mar 12, 2015, 9:35 AM
    2. Happy birth day!! :) - Gotlucky2014 on Mar 12, 2015, 2:35 PM
     
  14. when do you start brushing infant teeth? how? View entire thread - Gotlucky2014 on Mar 11, 2015, 2:33 PM
    1. You can start with wiping them . . . - Maggie in VA on Mar 12, 2015, 7:37 AM
      1. thanks maggie - Gotlucky2014 on Mar 12, 2015, 2:31 PM
    2. I just used a wet washcloth when they were little - thesameboat on Mar 12, 2015, 8:24 AM
      1. my hands are full - Gotlucky2014 on Mar 12, 2015, 2:31 PM
     
  15. Benadryl View entire thread - De2 on Mar 11, 2015, 2:07 PM
    1. Re: Benadryl - FL Gal on Mar 11, 2015, 8:37 PM
    2. Yes, I took it when needed. - Maggie in VA on Mar 12, 2015, 6:55 AM
     
  16. Urgh, worried we may be starting encopresis. View entire thread - Maggie in VA on Mar 11, 2015, 11:44 AM
    1. Only suggestion is could there be a yeast component to his rash - BlessedThistle on Mar 11, 2015, 12:55 PM
      1. Thanks . . . - Maggie in VA on Mar 11, 2015, 1:44 PM
    2. no advice - thesameboat on Mar 11, 2015, 2:02 PM
    3. Ugh. I'm so sorry. - Renata on Mar 11, 2015, 4:30 PM
      1. Thanks for the feedback. - Maggie in VA on Mar 12, 2015, 7:35 AM
        1. I'll see if I can find more info - Renata on Mar 12, 2015, 1:30 PM
          1. OK, thanks for the advice . . . ETA Critical Update - Maggie in VA on Mar 13, 2015, 8:15 AM
     
  17. tell stuff when the babe is 4 plus View entire thread - birdy1600 on Mar 10, 2015, 5:03 PM
    1. Same here. - Maggie in VA on Mar 11, 2015, 7:27 AM
    2. I think as long as the msg is around the periphery of their understanding, you are ok - BlessedThistle on Mar 11, 2015, 7:52 AM
    3. My boys are just starting to be curious - Renata on Mar 11, 2015, 4:35 PM
     
  18. me too!! i need help on this View entire thread - Gotlucky2014 on Mar 8, 2015, 5:32 PM
    1. ohhh! meant to post under Maggie's post. - Gotlucky2014 on Mar 8, 2015, 5:34 PM
     
  19. Need advice on snow gear. View entire thread - Maggie in VA on Mar 6, 2015, 10:34 AM
    1. Sorry, wrong board! - Anonymous on Mar 6, 2015, 4:31 PM
    2. thrift stores! - sophie on Mar 6, 2015, 5:01 PM
      1. I swap and trade with acquaintances. - thesameboat on Mar 7, 2015, 4:05 AM
      2. Hi, Unique = Value Village in Virginia - Maggie in VA on Mar 9, 2015, 8:06 AM
        1. unique - sophie on Mar 9, 2015, 2:32 PM
    3. Do you have consignment shops? - Maya3 on Mar 8, 2015, 2:58 PM
      1. Yes, we have a few . . . - Maggie in VA on Mar 9, 2015, 8:08 AM
     
  20. teeth and asthma woes View entire thread - gr8tful1 on Mar 3, 2015, 11:24 AM
    1. In a bit of the same boat . . . - Maggie in VA on Mar 3, 2015, 12:18 PM
      1. We have a lot in common these days... - gr8tful1 on Mar 3, 2015, 12:46 PM
    2. Not an answer but a toothpaste suggestion - BlessedThistle on Mar 3, 2015, 3:06 PM
    3. I don't know about teeth problems but asthma ... - E&H on Mar 4, 2015, 7:18 AM
      1. What's Ribena? - FL Gal on Mar 4, 2015, 7:32 AM
        1. You don't get Ribena in USA - E&H on Mar 4, 2015, 4:57 PM
          1. Re: You don't get Ribena in USA - De2 on Mar 5, 2015, 10:19 AM
      2. All I do with mine is avoid sticky treats - BlessedThistle on Mar 4, 2015, 11:49 AM
    4. thanks, all - gr8tful1 on Mar 4, 2015, 7:16 PM
     
  21. Travelling without my little fella View entire thread - Antonialisa on Mar 2, 2015, 10:36 AM
    1. No wisdom, just a question - Renata on Mar 2, 2015, 7:43 PM
      1. Breastfeeding - Antonialisa on Mar 3, 2015, 8:24 PM
    2. I agree with Renata - aw2006 on Mar 3, 2015, 3:28 AM
    3. It's hard the first time, but will be ok - Leeba on Mar 3, 2015, 6:18 AM
    4. I feel for you... - Piper on Mar 3, 2015, 9:02 AM
      1. Thank you for your reassuring posts! - Antonialisa on Mar 3, 2015, 8:27 PM
    5. I can relate. Had a similar experience in Dec. - Mrs. M on Mar 4, 2015, 5:19 AM
     
  22. would you donate embryos if (mc ment) View entire thread - De2 on Mar 2, 2015, 6:55 AM
    1. Re: would you donate embryos if (mc ment) - green.elephant on Mar 2, 2015, 7:23 AM
    2. That's a really hard question. - Maggie in VA on Mar 2, 2015, 7:40 AM
      1. Re: That's a really hard question. - De2 on Mar 2, 2015, 9:20 AM
    3. Maybe they are meant to be part of her journey if she chooses to use them? - BlessedThistle on Mar 2, 2015, 8:21 AM
      1. I agree with BT. - KarenGH on Mar 2, 2015, 12:03 PM
    4. You're asking what we would do, right? - thesameboat on Mar 3, 2015, 1:10 AM
      1. yes - De2 on Mar 3, 2015, 1:07 PM
    5. What I would do is ..... - E&H on Mar 3, 2015, 1:26 AM
      1. coping - De2 on Mar 3, 2015, 10:15 AM
      2. Good advice nt - Thk on Mar 19, 2015, 10:24 PM
    6. re: would you donate - aw2006 on Mar 3, 2015, 3:25 AM
     
  23. It worked! View entire thread - aw2006 on Mar 1, 2015, 3:33 PM
    1. Re: It worked! - FL Gal on Mar 1, 2015, 3:46 PM
      1. Thank-you! n/t - aw2006 on Mar 4, 2015, 9:01 AM
    2. Congrats!! - Mrs. M on Mar 1, 2015, 6:30 PM
      1. Thank-you! n/t - aw2006 on Mar 4, 2015, 9:01 AM
    3. so happy for you - Gotlucky2014 on Mar 1, 2015, 6:42 PM
      1. Thank-you! n/t - aw2006 on Mar 4, 2015, 9:01 AM
    4. How exciting! - mbunny on Mar 1, 2015, 7:11 PM
      1. Thank-you! n/t - aw2006 on Mar 4, 2015, 9:02 AM
    5. Oh, congratulations! - thesameboat on Mar 2, 2015, 3:08 AM
      1. Thank-you! n/t - aw2006 on Mar 4, 2015, 9:02 AM
    6. Huzzah! - Maggie in VA on Mar 2, 2015, 7:35 AM
      1. Thank-you! n/t - aw2006 on Mar 4, 2015, 9:02 AM
    7. wow! - sophie on Mar 3, 2015, 4:19 AM
      1. Thank-you! n/t - aw2006 on Mar 4, 2015, 9:02 AM
    8. 11DP6DT - aw2006 on Mar 4, 2015, 9:09 AM
    9. YAY!!! nt - gr8tful1 on Mar 4, 2015, 7:16 PM
    10. Yay! - Jen on Mar 4, 2015, 8:35 PM
     
  24. dd sleeps a lot View entire thread - Gotlucky2014 on Feb 27, 2015, 6:45 PM
    1. Extreme changes.. - Darrias on Feb 27, 2015, 8:12 PM
      1. wow she went back to her old - Gotlucky2014 on Feb 28, 2015, 1:10 PM
    2. Growth spurt? - aw2006 on Mar 1, 2015, 3:31 PM
     
  25. Separation anxiety at age 4 View entire thread - gr8tful1 on Feb 27, 2015, 5:30 PM
    1. Yes, we had similar . . . - Maggie in VA on Feb 28, 2015, 11:06 AM
      1. ha! - gr8tful1 on Feb 28, 2015, 3:04 PM
    2. Is he OK after you're away from each other? - thesameboat on Mar 1, 2015, 11:36 AM
      1. Haven't left him, really - gr8tful1 on Mar 1, 2015, 4:45 PM
        1. Do you think it would help if you arranged to meet some of the other children elsewhere? - thesameboat on Mar 2, 2015, 3:08 AM
          1. yes - gr8tful1 on Mar 2, 2015, 4:42 PM
     
  26. Al, how did you survive alone? tell me (added OT)_ View entire thread - Gotlucky2014 on Feb 27, 2015, 1:51 PM
    1. Will write a better reply tomorrow ! - Al on Feb 28, 2015, 6:30 AM
      1. ok - Gotlucky2014 on Feb 28, 2015, 1:08 PM
    2. I've been alone with 7 kids for years - E&H on Feb 28, 2015, 6:18 PM
      1. i enjoy but the tasks of being mom - Gotlucky2014 on Feb 28, 2015, 8:50 PM
        1. Hi Gotlucky - E&H on Mar 1, 2015, 4:17 PM
          1. wow you sounds very happy - Gotlucky2014 on Mar 1, 2015, 5:34 PM
    3. Definitely not easy - Al on Mar 1, 2015, 6:10 AM
      1. thanks again - Gotlucky2014 on Mar 1, 2015, 4:13 PM
     
  27. DE or considering DE in Boston area? View entire thread - Darrias on Feb 26, 2015, 10:49 AM
    1. Not in Boston.... - Al on Feb 27, 2015, 4:50 AM
      1. Al, Great to hear from you... - Darrias on Feb 27, 2015, 4:50 PM
        1. :) - Al on Feb 28, 2015, 6:26 AM
     
  28. Advice on lining issue (x-post) View entire thread - Leigh on Feb 25, 2015, 7:01 PM
    1. my succesful cycle was poor lining - Gotlucky2014 on Feb 25, 2015, 8:23 PM
    2. Success with 6.5 - Dixiechic on Feb 26, 2015, 7:28 AM
      1. Re: Success with 6.5 - De2 on Feb 26, 2015, 9:06 AM
     
  29. De2 you are NOT alone View entire thread - birdy1600 on Feb 25, 2015, 2:17 PM
    1. thanks - De2 on Feb 25, 2015, 4:09 PM
     
  30. third party babies legal in UK!!! View entire thread - birdy1600 on Feb 25, 2015, 2:11 PM
  31.  
  32. OT..Hope2009 View entire thread - Sugar on Feb 25, 2015, 1:36 PM
    1. Thanks Sugar and here is the link to the Meditation challenge....m - Hope2009 on Feb 28, 2015, 1:11 AM
     
  33. My mother can no longer be alone (ramble) View entire thread - BlessedThistle on Feb 25, 2015, 8:15 AM
    1. Re: My mother can no longer be alone (ramble) - De2 on Feb 25, 2015, 8:30 AM
    2. I went through this - Renata on Feb 25, 2015, 11:27 AM
      1. I am so sorry you went through this - BlessedThistle on Feb 25, 2015, 12:30 PM
        1. My MIL had vascular dementia, too. - Maggie in VA on Feb 25, 2015, 1:15 PM
          1. age? - De2 on Feb 25, 2015, 4:04 PM
            1. It was MIL, and now I have to think . . . - Maggie in VA on Feb 26, 2015, 7:23 AM
    3. I'm sorry. - thesameboat on Feb 25, 2015, 1:03 PM
    4. I'm sorry... - mbunny on Feb 27, 2015, 7:21 AM
    5. I'm so sorry that you are dealing with this.....m - Hope2009 on Feb 28, 2015, 1:24 AM
    6. Re: My mother can no longer be alone (ramble) - FL Gal on Mar 1, 2015, 9:16 AM
     
  34. Teeth cleaning tips ? View entire thread - Al on Feb 25, 2015, 5:53 AM
    1. My kids still love Spiffies tooth gel - BlessedThistle on Feb 25, 2015, 7:46 AM
      1. BT turned me on to . . . - Maggie in VA on Feb 25, 2015, 8:41 AM
    2. Thank you ladies ! - Al on Feb 28, 2015, 6:27 AM
     
  35. finally told family about pregnancy View entire thread - De2 on Feb 24, 2015, 8:09 AM
    1. Been there. - Maggie in VA on Feb 24, 2015, 9:45 AM
      1. Re: Been there. - De2 on Feb 24, 2015, 2:03 PM
        1. To thine own self be true. - Maggie in VA on Feb 25, 2015, 8:28 AM
    2. that is the other problem i have - Gotlucky2014 on Feb 24, 2015, 3:08 PM
      1. thanks - De2 on Feb 24, 2015, 3:47 PM
    3. I suspect my sister thought that as The Barren One, I was going to take on my mom - BlessedThistle on Feb 24, 2015, 5:04 PM
      1. yeah - De2 on Feb 24, 2015, 5:35 PM
    4. That sucks :( - Al on Feb 25, 2015, 5:46 AM
      1. yeah, lavish lifestyle, their choice - De2 on Feb 25, 2015, 11:44 AM
     
  36. 34 weeks and breech View entire thread - Jen on Feb 22, 2015, 9:07 PM
    1. I don't think Freddy turned . . . - Maggie in VA on Feb 23, 2015, 7:09 AM
      1. Hoping for a flipper! - Jen on Feb 23, 2015, 9:31 AM
    2. a few days before he was born - mbunny on Feb 23, 2015, 12:01 PM
    3. when i start seeing the ob every week - Gotlucky2014 on Feb 23, 2015, 8:29 PM
    4. No flipping but one of my twins was breech and was delivered...m - Hope2009 on Feb 28, 2015, 1:31 AM
     
  37. endometrial hyperplasia, anyone? View entire thread - finch9 on Feb 21, 2015, 7:44 PM
  38.  
  39. Leslie and Maya3 View entire thread - Gotlucky2014 on Feb 21, 2015, 7:17 PM
    1. Hi Gotlucky... - Maya3 on Feb 22, 2015, 1:10 PM
      1. got their site - Gotlucky2014 on Feb 22, 2015, 5:00 PM
    2. Hey there - Leslie on Feb 23, 2015, 6:57 AM
      1. ok - Gotlucky2014 on Feb 23, 2015, 8:32 PM
     
  40. Doing it View entire thread - Aw2006 on Feb 21, 2015, 1:05 AM
    1. PUPO!!! - Aw2006 on Feb 21, 2015, 1:25 AM
      1. Congratulations. Wishing you luck. - Margolis on Feb 21, 2015, 6:41 AM
      2. Best wishes! - mbunny on Feb 21, 2015, 5:15 PM
    2. Oh wow !! - Al on Feb 21, 2015, 5:57 AM
    3. Sending baby dust your way! - Renata on Feb 21, 2015, 9:24 AM
    4. Good luck! - sophie on Feb 21, 2015, 12:58 PM
    5. Best of luck to you - Gotlucky2014 on Feb 21, 2015, 3:41 PM
    6. sounds like a great frosty!!!! - Mrs. M on Feb 22, 2015, 6:44 AM
    7. Hoping this is the start of a new baby for you! - Maggie in VA on Feb 24, 2015, 7:03 AM
     
  41. being proactive View entire thread - Gotlucky2014 on Feb 20, 2015, 1:06 PM
    1. I didn't do anything - Aw2006 on Feb 21, 2015, 1:07 AM
      1. thanks - Gotlucky2014 on Feb 21, 2015, 3:42 PM
    2. Not helpful for her - Al on Feb 21, 2015, 6:05 AM
      1. huge hugs - Gotlucky2014 on Feb 21, 2015, 3:47 PM
        1. :) yes ! - Al on Feb 21, 2015, 6:52 PM
     
  42. new article: more and more science that DE has effects View entire thread - birdy1600 on Feb 18, 2015, 5:05 PM
    1. I heard a story about this on NPR - Renata on Feb 19, 2015, 12:37 PM
     
  43. Any of you long-term immune ladies having cortisol problems in menopause? View entire thread - thesameboat on Feb 16, 2015, 12:13 AM
    1. I haven't experienced anything like this..... - Margolis on Feb 16, 2015, 8:48 AM
      1. thanks. done nt - thesameboat on Feb 16, 2015, 11:48 AM
    2. Re: Any of you long-term immune ladies having cortisol problems in menopause? - De2 on Feb 19, 2015, 2:55 PM
      1. That's a good question - thesameboat on Feb 20, 2015, 4:02 AM
        1. Re: That's a good question - De2 on Feb 20, 2015, 10:46 AM
     
 
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