In Turkish-Defence Forum, "warrior" posted a beautiful picture of Turkish B-737 AEW/MESA aircraft... The aircraft is under construction nowadays. Thank you warrior...

Here is for your pleasure:




Little Europe-thinking just doesn't work anymore...
Joschka Fischer, German Foreign Minister

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Nice pic... does anyone know what is that small round antena below the cockpit? will it have a front looking radar too? what are it's characteristics... any ELINT capabilities?

Good to see Turkey's IMF doner money are going to good use...What would you use if there was no IMF money? A Dakota with binoculars?

Optimaton 5 mg with no proven indications is here.

Little Europe-thinking just doesn't work anymore...
Joschka Fischer, German Foreign Minister

Knowledge is good ©

@panos,
my friend if you look at the wings of the plane you will see that she has the same parts on the wing tips. although this picture doesnt show there is also one on the tail of the plane as well.
boeing site says,

The Boeing AEW&C Solution
The AEW&C airborne system combines the new high-performance Boeing 737-700 aircraft with the new technology Northrop Grumman Multi-role Electronically Scanned Array (MESA) radar. Included in the platform are an advanced Identification Friend or Foe (IFF) system; an expanded, passive electronic surveillance system; a flexible, open-system architecture and a highly effective self-defence capability.

Using the latest sensor technology, Northrop Grumman's 360-degree electronically steerable beam MESA radar is able to track air and sea targets simultaneously and can help the operator track high-performance aircraft while continuously scanning the operational area. More than 600 hours of wind tunnel testing have demonstrated the compatibility of the aircraft and the radar.

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TURKEY
Tusas Aerospace Industries: Responsible for Turkey's Airborne Early Warning and Control program (Peace Eagle) aircraft modifications and testing. AEW&C platform will be a Boeing Next-Generation 737-700.

HAVELSAN: Responsible for Airborne Early Warning & Control software. Signed contract with Boeing on regional and global ballistic missile defense issues.

Those black surfaces are ESM/ELINT antennas, there are 4 of them, one in the front, one in the back, tip of right wing and left wing. ASELSAN-MIKES is responsible from total EW suite which includes ESM, Chaff/Flare and Missile Warning Systems...

It does look rather large for an ESM antenna... can it be a complementary radar covering the front 120o arc (same for the rear one too)? I don't see any other way for having 360o coverage with that radar antenna on top of the plane unless the front, curved part of the antenna hides a farward looking Phased Array)

When i asked for ELINT equipment i was refering to passive sensors providing functionality similar to the JStart.. the Greek AEW&C has such equipment capable of detecting radio/radar transmissions, location of signals, etc.

Very nice picture. Hope there will be no delay. When will the first one be in service?

@Panos,

Yes, they are ESM/ELINT antennas, independent from radar antenna. This radar has 360 degree coverage itself. If you look at the front top hat portion of the radar antenna, black surface, it covers front of the a/c. Similarly, there is one in the back. Boeing solved the 360 degree coverage problem adding hat on the top of radar antenna. You dont see this "hat" in the ERIEYE radar antenna design, it has rectangular shape without hat. Therefore, ERIEYE leaves radar gaps in the front and back...Vertical surfaces of the radar antenna(below the hat part) you see on 737, there are radar transmitters installed in arrays. There are supposedly around 1000 transmitter modules in hat part and sides together. ERIEYE contains only around 200 transmitter modules on both sides. It explains why ERIRYE is cheaper than E-737 and less powerfull also...ERJ-145 as a passenger plane costs 20 million dollars, B-737-700 costs 60 million dollars a piece...

First delivery of Turkish E-737 AEW&C is scheduled for 2007. Next three will be delivered in 2008 from TAI facilities...

"First delivery of Turkish E-737 AEW&C is scheduled for 2007. Next three will be delivered in 2008 from TAI facilities..."

Yes, the deliveries are going to coincide with each instalment from the IMF.

@optimaton,

We get bank loan from IMF, but you get donation from EU club.
That is very different condition indeed.

Don't be in doubt.We already have money for our army.
Don't swerve this topic.

Interesting facts fromm the current CIA Factfile

Population–
Greece: 10,647,529
Turkey: 68,893,918

Purchasing Power Parity –
Greece: $19,900
Turkey: $6,700

Unemployment rate–
Greece: 9.8%
Turkey: 11.3% (plus underemployment of 6.1%)

Inflation–
Greece: 3.3%
Turkey: 18.4%

External Debit–
Greece: $63.4 billion
Turkey: $141.3 billion

Population Below Poverty Line–
Greece: NA%
Turkey: 18%

Literacy–
Greece: 97.5%
Turkey: 86.5%

Infant mortality rate–
Greece: 5.63 deaths/1,000 live births
Turkey: 42.62 deaths/1,000 live births

Life expectancy–
Greece: 78.94 years
Turkey: 72.08 years

Military Spending–
Greece: $7,288.9 million (4.3% of GDP)
Turkey: $12.155 billion (5.3% of GDP)

All your problems and you still spend so much on military. Cancel the expensive hardware and invest it in your people's well being.

"We get bank loan from IMF, but you get donation from EU club.
That is very different condition indeed."

Yes, it is very different..the difference being you have to actually pay the IMF back...lol!!!!!!

lol you are just an loser...






Sehitler Ölmez, Vatan Bölünmez!

Kiziroglu, you may think i'm a loser but your shocking infrascture is causing the loss of innocent lives, ie those train accidents in the last week.

But as long as you get to buy new planes then i suppose it's all worth it.

This is for you Akruda, read it and learn your country's economical condition...193 billion euro publict debt? hmm it does NOT sound like a healthy economy to me....

Greece set to borrow 36 bln euros in 2004, EU to warn on deficit

The ballooning public debt is seriously hindering the government’s room to maneuver and could lead to further problems in light of the European Commission’s intention to review the Stability and Growth Pact in order to place greater weight on the criterion of public debt. Deputy Economy Minister Petros Doukas yesterday revealed that the borrowing program for this year is expected to hit 36 billion euros, way over the budget forecast of 29 billion.

The government’s handling of the debt is limited by the fact that it is a member of the EU and one of the 12 countries in the eurozone and therefore under greater pressure than others to control its finances.

Next week, the Commission is to launch warning procedures against Greece, Cyprus, the Czech Republic, Hungary, Malta, Poland and Slovakia for allowing their deficits to swell beyond the 3 percent limit set by the Stability Pact. Greece will be told to improve its finances from next year, Agence France-Presse quoted an EU source in Brussels as saying. The newly admitted EU members would be given several years to adjust, the source said.

One of the basic reasons for the surge in Greece’s borrowing requirement is the last-minute construction of Olympic projects, which has resulted in greater spending without control or complaint. These extra costs had not been included in the 2004 budget, Doukas said.

The further spending is covered by an increase in borrowing as state revenues remain weak. At the same time, many categories of civil servants are pressing for “Olympic bonuses” without it being certain whether all of them can be satisfied.

Doukas said that the bonus will be given to the security services, in other words, the police, fire brigade and coast guard. These 60,000 people will receive, in installments, bonuses of up to a total of 2,500 euros.

Finance Ministry figures show that in the first five months of 2004, the public debt rose 15.6 billion euros, reaching 193.44 billion at the end of May, from 177.8 billion at the end of 2003. The target for the end of 2004 was to keep the debt to 183 billion euros.

The discovery of this debt in the audit conducted after the March elections, and the fact that the Treasury was empty, resulted in the borrowing of some 6 billion euros over a period of 45 days.

http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_politics_100004_16/06/2004_43994

"Kiziroglu, you may think i'm a loser but your shocking infrascture is causing the loss of innocent lives, ie those train accidents in the last week.

But as long as you get to buy new planes then i suppose it's all worth it."

Its not that we have to choose between good railways or new aircraft. We could have it both. It's just that the politicians in Ankara neglected that the railroads where to old to support the new trains. If it isnt possible just dont do it. They should never choose for a half solution.

Question:

Does anybody has the picture on top of the forum in larger size, or know where I can find it?
I would like to use it as desk-top background for my PC.

"Interesting facts fromm the current CIA Factfile"

Well, you know that this so called "cia factbook" hasn't got the real figures and data half the time.

VISIT TURKEY

look at the numbers you posted and see by the comparison how you contradict yourself you idiot..





Sehitler Ölmez, Vatan Bölünmez!

Very Nice looking picture, but if I am not mistaken each final aircraft will cost a bomb load of money. Any body know what the going rate for one of these completed platforms is?

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Threads highlights

A Greek say:
Good to see Turkey's IMF doner money are going to good use...What would you use if there was no IMF money? A Dakota with binoculars?

A Turks say:
First delivery of Turkish E-737 AEW&C is scheduled for 2007. Next three will be delivered in 2008 from TAI facilities...





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