The Turkish Foreign Ministry has registered its official protest with Athens over video images taken by the Turkish coast guards of Greek coast guard boats dropping Afghani refugees in rubber dinghys into Turkish coastline waters. The video images were recorded in July 2004, and again this year in late May, and show Greek coast guard boats coming from the Greek islands of Samos and Lesbos leaving groups of Afghani refugees to drift towards Kusadasi and Ayvalik.
The actions of the Greek coast guard appear to be against all international laws, and the video clips have been sent to Greek officials from Ankara in hopes of bringing more attention to the matter.
In the latest of the video images shot from a Turkish coast guard helicopter, a Greek vessel approaches Turkish waters from the island of Lesbos early in the morning of May 27, 2006. Stopping about 700 meters off the Ayvalik coastline, the Greek coast guard boat lowers a rubber dinghy into the water, and transfers 6 Afghani refugees into the dinghy without so much as a paddle. The 6 Afhgani refugees are then seen paddling with their hands to reach the shoreline.
According to Turkish police forces, Greece's practice of dropping illegal refugees into Turkey picked up in earnest after 2003. As many as 5,800 refugees having been brought to the Turkish borders, in what is a clear infraction of international law.
Re: Greek coast guard's illegalities captured on video
September 20 2006, 10:17 AM
Turkish coast guard killed one illegal immigrant
17:22 2005-09-19
Turkish coast guard officers opened fire on a boat carrying about 30 illegal immigrants to Greece overnight, authorities said Monday. One Syrian immigrant was killed and two people, including a Turkish crew member, were injured.
The coast guard opened fire when the Turkish boat did not heed calls to stop and attempted to escape toward the Greek island of Chios off the Aegean port city of Izmir, authorities said.
The injured were hospitalized. Two Turkish crew members were expected to be charged with human smuggling. Most of the passengers were Syrian, according to the AP.
Turkish coast guard, meanwhile, recovered the bodies of four illegal immigrants who drowned in the Aegean Sea when their boat capsized last week, the Anatolia news agency said. Eight other people were still missing. Most of the immigrants on that boat were Iraqis.
Turkey is a major transit point for Middle Eastern and African migrants attempting to reach Europe illegally, and Greece announced that its coast guard had arrested 29 illegal immigrants in the eastern Aegean Sea on Monday along with a Turk suspected of trying to smuggle them.
The Greek Merchant Marine Ministry said a patrol boat located the migrants, among whom were 11 children, and the suspected smuggler on a small wooden vessel off the island of Samos.
The migrants, whose nationalities were not made public, were all in good health, the ministry said, adding that they had set off from the nearby Turkish coast.
In the first half of 2005, coast guards detained a total of 1,280 illegal migrants in Greek waters.
from AP
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Turkish comonwealth needs you
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Re: Greek coast guard's illegalities captured on video
September 20 2006, 11:46 AM
Greece is acting again like a banana republic. Dumping in an ilegal overnight mission refugees on your neighbours coasts, an be dumb enough to get cought.
These people are more crazy and inhumen than I thought. Shame on greece.
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Re: Greek coast guard's illegalities captured on video
September 20 2006, 12:11 PM
I am sure all these are true.
Where is the photo showing the afgans getting into their boat from the greek vessel??????
No photo??
Where is the photo showing the afgan's boat droped to sea from the greek vessel?????
No photo??
ok then!!!!
ps.Can't you find the photos posted above in a better resolution.
I can't see nothing.
Maybe that was the purpose of these revealing photos.
Re: Greek coast guard's illegalities captured on video
September 20 2006, 12:44 PM
CAUGHT RED HANDED!
This just typifies what type of neighbour we have! A neighbour that flouts the rules of international law and then accuses Turkey of wrong doing. The greek reaction in this forum bears testimony to the knee jerk defensive reactions taken instead of admitting there is a problem with their so-called "perfect" nation.
This is why Turkey has to use the heavy handed tactics against greece. The country is a haven for corruption, lies, greed and illegal activity!
Re: Greek coast guard's illegalities captured on video
September 20 2006, 12:50 PM
"This is why Turkey has to use the heavy handed tactics against greece. The country is a haven for corruption, lies, greed and illegal activity!"
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especcialy for the last one "illegal activities", you don't have the right to speak. you have stepped all legal measures and laws in european court... sentenced multiple times , and forced to pay great amount of money..
and greed??? a turk speaks about greed? , where your country is ten times larger than ours and yet you commit crimes, and illegaly occupy areas..
you are done mundine, don't even continue..
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Re: Greek coast guard's illegalities captured on video
September 20 2006, 12:50 PM
Edit: This topic will eventually flame so only fact relevant from me will remain, all other deleted.
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The incident we are currently hearing from other sources as being used for proof from the Turkish side, will be something like a specific incident where Turkish coast guard dennied to allow a near by Greek CG vessel to rescue several stranded illegal immigrants from a wooden boat originating from Turkey, stranded inside Turkish waters, while the Turkish CG vessels in the area didn't do anything to help. Eventually the immigrants were rescued by the Greek CG vessel when their boat finally drifted into Greek waters, and in due time they were returned to Turkey, as per the deal signed from the two countries in 2001.
For those who don't know...
Greece and Turkey have agreed a deal ever since 2000, signed in 2001, which actually provides the means for illegal immigrants captured by each side coming from the other, to actually be returned immediately to the country of departure.
Re: Greek coast guard's illegalities captured on video
September 20 2006, 1:13 PM
The joke is that turkish armed forces (CG) gave to publicity this 'video' in order to undermine their politicians efforts abroad. Greek media are laughing their *ss off with this revelation as we speak
Turks get prepared to see your newly modernised 'sabras' tanks on your streets. They wont be for parades
Re: Greek coast guard's illegalities captured on video
September 20 2006, 1:20 PM
-The Turkish Foreign Ministry has registered its official protest with Athens over video images taken by the Turkish coast guards of Greek coast guard boats dropping Afghani refugees in rubber dinghys into Turkish coastline waters. The video images were recorded in July 2004, and again this year in late May, and show Greek coast guard boats coming from the Greek islands of Samos and Lesbos leaving groups of Afghani refugees to drift towards Kusadasi and Ayvalik.
I love it, that's great news and between You and me we have the blessing of the EU
and Aegean can you repost the Video it don't seem to work properly, i'd like to see how we successfuly dumped them in turkish waters
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Re: Greek coast guard's illegalities captured on video
September 20 2006, 3:09 PM
@ HellasGeo
especcialy for the last one "illegal activities", you don't have the right to speak. you have stepped all legal measures and laws in european court... sentenced multiple times , and forced to pay great amount of money..
Why dont I have the right to speak? This is why you greeks are so stupid. You think you are so much better than everybody else. The fact is, we were your masters for over 400 years so what gives you the right to think you are better than me or any Turk for that matter?
and greed??? a turk speaks about greed? , where your country is ten times larger than ours and yet you commit crimes, and illegaly occupy areas..
This is another reason why greeks are pathetic. You never look at your own backyard. You are always quick to criticise others and when you see disgraceful acts committed by your own country, your false pride, your pathetic stubborness and your blind and empty passion for the piece of sh*it you call a country, reigns supreme before you can make an educated judgement on what is right and wrong.
you are done mundine, don't even continue..
I am not done....I am your nightmare! Im the Turk your mother said would come and get you if you dont finish your dinner!
THIS IS AN ILLEGAL AND DISGRACEFUL ACT BY THE GREEK COAST GUARD!
There are a few things that need to be brought to the forefront of criticism against the greek coast guard:
1: They were in Turkish territorial waters without permission;
2: The greek coast guard was being taped by a Turkish coast guard helicopter that was within sight of the greek coast guard vessel. Are they that stupid to continue comitting this criminal act under the watchful eyes of the Turkish coast guard or is the greek coast guard so incompetant that they didnt even realise a helicopter hovering above them?
3: The greek coast guard dropped afghan refugees in the water in a small rubber dinghy WITHOUT EVEN PADDLES! They left them there in the water to die!
4: Locals in the area say that this type of behaviour by the greek coast guard happens all the time!!!!
5: You can see the greek coast guard flee like a rat without any honour.
THIS IS REALLY SHOCKING AND EMBARRESSING FOR THE GREEK COAST GUARD AND EVEN WORSE, FOR THE GREEK NATION.
This message has been edited by Aselsan on Sep 20, 2006 3:10 PM
Re: Greek coast guard's illegalities captured on video
September 20 2006, 3:42 PM
Edit: This topic will eventually flame so only fact relevant from me will remain, all other deleted.
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The incident we are currently hearing from other sources as being used for proof from the Turkish side, will be something like a specific incident where Turkish coast guard dennied to allow a near by Greek CG vessel to rescue several stranded illegal immigrants from a wooden boat originating from Turkey, stranded inside Turkish waters, while the Turkish CG vessels in the area didn't do anything to help. Eventually the immigrants were rescued by the Greek CG vessel when their boat finally drifted into Greek waters, and in due time they were returned to Turkey, as per the deal signed from the two countries in 2001.
For those who don't know...
Greece and Turkey have agreed a deal ever since 2000, signed in 2001, which actually provides the means for illegal immigrants captured by each side coming from the other, to actually be returned immediately to the country of departure.
Re: Greek coast guard's illegalities captured on video
September 20 2006, 3:50 PM
@kinmid
first read what you posted..
According to deal
Quote:Under the new agreement Greece, can return all illegal migrants within 14 days of their arrival, although Athens says it will not apply it for political refugees.
Re: Greek coast guard's illegalities captured on video
September 20 2006, 4:41 PM
FACTS (according to reality)
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The incident we are currently presented as proof from the Turkish side, is actually a specific incident where Turkish coast guard dennied to allow a nearby Greek CG vessel to rescue several stranded illegal immigrants from a wooden boat ddead in the water and originating from Turkey.
The boat was obviously stranded inside Turkish territorial waters, while the Turkish CG vessels in the area didn't do anything to help. Eventually those immigrants were rescued by the same Greek CG vessel when their boat finally drifted into Greek waters.
For those who don't know...
Greece and Turkey have agreed a deal ever since 2000, signed in 2001, which actually provides the means for illegal immigrants captured by each side coming from the other, to actually be returned immediately to the country of departure.
FACTS (according to Turkish video)
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1-Greek coast guard vessel sailing alone in the sea, filmed by air.
2-Same Greek coast guard vessel with it's rafts deployed, filmed by air.
3-Wooden boat full of refugeees dead in the water alone in the sea, filmed by air.
4-Small raft full of refugees wairing life-jackets alone in the sea, filmed by air and sea.
5-Several Turkish vessels sailing at high speed filmed by sea and air.
6-A fast patrol boat of unknown origin sailing at high speed in the distance, filmed by air.
7-Audio recordings of Turkish communications.
8-Radar screenshot.
9-All these taking place in broad day light.
CONCLUSSION (according to Turkish forumers logic lol)
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1-The Greek vessel was inside Turkish territorial waters.
2-It unloaded refugees in the raft.
3-It run away after being spotted.
CONCLUSSION (according to common logic)
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1-No image of all three vessels in the same frame, not even a distant one (Greek CG vessel, boat, raft), despite the cameras present both on air and sea by the Turkish side.
2-No image of Turkish coast guard vessels approaching the Greek vessel, or in the same frame with it, even a distant one.
3-No image of Greek CG vessel unloading refugees (by the way... did they towed the boat?)
4-No actual proof of the Greek CG vessel being inside the Turkish territorial waters.
5-No actual proof of Greek crew unloading refugees to rafts.
6-No image of the heroic Turkish coast guard crews saving the stranded refugees.
7-No image of those refugees being unloaded on a Turkish port. No interviews of them. NADA!!!
What really is all this about?
One more lame attempt of the Turkish authorities to discredit Greece, when in fact the Turkish coast guard is dishonouring it's humanitarian responcibilities by endangering innocent lives in order to exploit such incidents for propaganda. The fact that whenever they send a ship or vessel to provoke Greek authorities, they make sure there are half a dozen cameras around to video tape it, makes their intention more clear.
And off course clears-out any delussions about the so called "Greco-Turkish" friendship.
Their objective is obviously to create a negative environment where Greek coast guard vessels will actually hesitate to intervene when international law, and illegal immigration issues arise in the region, or when Greek sovereignty is challenged, by fear of being manipulated in the same manner.
P.S.
If I take a video of a person reading a book, while sitting on a chair relaxed.
And then I add a frame of a Playboy magazine laying on a table.
Can I honestly support the view that he was actually masturbating with that Playboy magazine, and the video is the proof?
When people say to me... "but we don't see him masturbating"
Can I honestly be considered intelligent if I reply... "Well he was inside my house, the playboy was on the table a meter away from him, and he looks relaxed, he was masturbating allright but he stopped when I entered the room, and tried to appear as reading a book"?
And then go on... "SHAME ON HIM MASTURBATING ON ANOTHERS PLAYBOY INSIDE MY OWN HOUSE"!!!
What would people call me if I do that?
What would you call all those who by seing the video and my comments about it, actually believed me?
I quote:
"The video images were recorded in July 2004, and again this year in late May, and show Greek coast guard boats coming from the Greek islands of Samos and Lesbos"
"In the latest of the video images shot from a Turkish coast guard helicopter, a Greek vessel approaches Turkish waters from the island of Lesbos early in the morning of May 27, 2006. Stopping about 700 meters off the Ayvalik coastline"
So if we are talking about July 2004, then the video showing a Greek Saar coast guard vessel, is actually irrelevant (and off course proves the manipulation from the Turkish side), since there was only one available back then, and it was stationed in Attika for the Olympics.
It actually became operational a few days before the olympics, when the sea trials ended.
If we are talking about late May 2006, then the video is also irrelevant (and off course proves the manipulation from the Turkish side), since all three available Saar vessels were eventually equiped with a main gun, which isn't the case in the video recorded.
The Saar in the video obviously has both it's rafts on deck.
Some other fast boats presented are actually used by the DYK, or the Greek equivalent of "Seals", so their presence around the Saar actually corresponds to the sea trials conducted in 2004 just before the Olympics, when both the Coast Guard and the DYK had undertaken a major role in the security of the games.
I quote:
"show Greek coast guard boats coming from the Greek islands of Samos and Lesbos leaving groups of Afghani refugees to drift towards Kusadasi and Ayvalik"
Which obviously isn't shown.
We see many things, but none of the kind.
And I will not comment on the specific size ship abilities to approach at 700m distance from the Turkish coasts undetected, when the distance from Lesvos is actually 10Km at the narrowest point.
I guess most of you have GoogleEarth, so do a distance check.
Re: Greek coast guard's illegalities captured on video
September 20 2006, 6:19 PM
the funniest claim ever made...
I suppose you know that the greek media are laughing their a*s out with this stuff.
Must be the first event shown on news the last 2 years that made me LMAO.
ps. I can't see the video.
This message has been edited by salonica on Sep 20, 2006 6:19 PM
Pandemon,the one your mother said i come! lol (Login PanDemon) Hellenic Hoplites
BRAVO GREEK CGUARD!!! ASELSAN that;s for you..........
September 20 2006, 6:22 PM
To the Turkish Group Leader..:
"I am not done....I am your nightmare! Im the Turk your mother said would come and get you if you dont finish your dinner! "
lol what a stupid.....now you will get an answer from pandemon ! lol !!!! "our nightmare.." ..........hahahahhahaha .....: )
"THIS IS AN ILLEGAL AND DISGRACEFUL ACT BY THE GREEK COAST GUARD!"
Nope!This was the right thing to do.
"There are a few things that need to be brought to the forefront of criticism against the greek coast guard:
1: They were in Turkish territorial waters without permission;"
who gives a **** about your teritorial waters?yes it was!Now cry baby.CRY BABY CRY!!!! lol
"2: The greek coast guard was being taped by a Turkish coast guard helicopter that was within sight of the greek coast guard vessel. Are they that stupid to continue comitting this criminal act under the watchful eyes of the Turkish coast guard or is the greek coast guard so incompetant that they didnt even realise a helicopter hovering above them?"
Under the watchfull eyes of Turkish Coast Guard..hmmmm ...have you thought the possibility the greek vessel to do not give a **** if its monitored or not and if the almighty turksh coast guard is near or not? lol STA PAPARIA MAS RE. lol!!! (that means in our testicals !!)
"3: The greek coast guard dropped afghan refugees in the water in a small rubber dinghy WITHOUT EVEN PADDLES! They left them there in the water to die!"
In my testicals if die or not.if you care so much about them,KEEP THEM.Or better do not permit them illegally crossing the greek sea boundaries and hospitalize them in the rich great ****hole Turkey.
"4: Locals in the area say that this type of behaviour by the greek coast guard happens all the time!!!!"
Bravo to GCG!!!At least something good these days.I hope REALLY that they continue the same behaviour.That means APLYING THE INTERNATIONAL LAW
"5: You can see the greek coast guard flee like a rat without any honour."
actuaslly they left cause some scandinavian girls waited them in Mytilene for a good ****!!! lol!!!!
"THIS IS REALLY SHOCKING AND EMBARRESSING FOR THE GREEK COAST GUARD AND EVEN WORSE, FOR THE GREEK NATION"
I am very proud of their actions!!!To GCG:GREAT JOB BOYS!!!CONTINUE THE GOOD WORK AND SEND ASIANS TO ASIA!!!
HELLAS WILL RISE AGAIN!!!
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Re: Greek coast guard's illegalities captured on video
September 20 2006, 6:51 PM
"Thios is not like stupid air space or international sea vioaltions. This is really unrespectful act againts humanity. "
ROFL here we are talking about an Ethiopian origined negroid monkey clan, whose greatest contribution to the humanity had been homosexuality, ffs ! In order to respect the humanity, u have to be classified as an Homo Sapiens Sapiens first, not an Homo Erectus like these people... So I didn'T get suprised indeed; these kinda events are something expectable when these neanderthals are the case...
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Re: Greek coast guard's illegalities captured on video
September 20 2006, 7:01 PM
Rommel says
"ROFL here we are talking about an Ethiopian origined negroid monkey clan, whose greatest contribution to the humanity had been homosexuality,"
surely Rommel if from all of what greeks have contributed to this world, to you the most important being Homsexuality, surely you gotta be pro Gay and a Gay activist
good for you man, i am glad to see a muslim Turk stand up for what he truly believes againts all odds
: ))) cheers to you buddy
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Re: Greek coast guard's illegalities captured on video
September 20 2006, 7:02 PM
Romel german turk asian african uzbek petseneg hun wanabe .....leave your crazy theories go to the mirror and look to your self.what do you see?
A mongol....a turk......
that's what you are mongol.mongol.you are a mongol wanted to be European.never.you will be a mongol and as a mongol you will behave like mongol yu will speak like mongol and you will accompany mongols.that means azeris tsetsens albanians and other mongols.ok mongol.?now cry mongol cry.
Re: Greek coast guard's illegalities captured on video
September 20 2006, 7:26 PM
"Romel german turk asian african uzbek petseneg hun wanabe .....leave your crazy theories go to the mirror and look to your self.what do you see?"
I see an hungry and horny guy who's +6000 kms away from home and looking for some Caucasian puzzzy in the middle of MoeLand in order to stop the testosterone spurt out from his ears... Why asked ?
"surely Rommel if from all of what greeks have contributed to this world, to you the most important being Homsexuality, surely you gotta be pro Gay and a Gay activist"
Nope I'm not but if it goes like this; I think I'm gonna join the Junior Anti-Sex League here... U know what they say, if u can't defeat something, just join it. Yeah perhaps I shouldn't read 1984 that much, but u know when you are in a hopeless situation as in my case; you should do something about it... Am I wrong ? --------------------------------------------
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Re: Greek coast guard's illegalities captured on video
September 20 2006, 11:41 PM
@Kinmid wrote:
Quote:FACTS (according to reality)
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The incident we are currently presented as proof from the Turkish side, is actually a specific incident where Turkish coast guard dennied to allow a nearby Greek CG vessel to rescue several stranded illegal immigrants from a wooden boat ddead in the water and originating from Turkey.
The boat was obviously stranded inside Turkish territorial waters, while the Turkish CG vessels in the area didn't do anything to help. Eventually those immigrants were rescued by the same Greek CG vessel when their boat finally drifted into Greek waters.
For those who don't know...
Greece and Turkey have agreed a deal ever since 2000, signed in 2001, which actually provides the means for illegal immigrants captured by each side coming from the other, to actually be returned immediately to the country of departure.
FACTS (according to Turkish video)
-----------------------------------
1-Greek coast guard vessel sailing alone in the sea, filmed by air.
2-Same Greek coast guard vessel with it's rafts deployed, filmed by air.
3-Wooden boat full of refugeees dead in the water alone in the sea, filmed by air.
4-Small raft full of refugees wairing life-jackets alone in the sea, filmed by air and sea.
5-Several Turkish vessels sailing at high speed filmed by sea and air.
6-A fast patrol boat of unknown origin sailing at high speed in the distance, filmed by air.
7-Audio recordings of Turkish communications.
8-Radar screenshot.
9-All these taking place in broad day light.
CONCLUSSION (according to Turkish forumers logic lol)
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1-The Greek vessel was inside Turkish territorial waters.
2-It unloaded refugees in the raft.
3-It run away after being spotted.
CONCLUSSION (according to common logic)
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1-No image of all three vessels in the same frame, not even a distant one (Greek CG vessel, boat, raft), despite the cameras present both on air and sea by the Turkish side.
2-No image of Turkish coast guard vessels approaching the Greek vessel, or in the same frame with it, even a distant one.
3-No image of Greek CG vessel unloading refugees (by the way... did they towed the boat?)
4-No actual proof of the Greek CG vessel being inside the Turkish territorial waters.
5-No actual proof of Greek crew unloading refugees to rafts.
6-No image of the heroic Turkish coast guard crews saving the stranded refugees.
7-No image of those refugees being unloaded on a Turkish port. No interviews of them. NADA!!!
That say's it all!
What a rediculus atemp by the turks...
Do they actually believe them selfs?
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Re: Greek coast guard's illegalities captured on video
September 21 2006, 6:46 AM
Good posts by Kinmid
What really staggers me is the level of pure hate and stupidity in a sizable minority of turks on this forum, ive been on for months reading most of the posts.....
most of the posters seem to be reasonable people, sure they get carried away sometimes, but a small few are utter morons.....exist to flame pander hate and their own insecurities by belittling others....
Mundine you are the perfect example.....of the typical stupid turk....extreme, right wing, belief that he is superior to all , when his country is still developing and in many parts looks like third world....
ALL your comments are hateful, spiteful, full of insecurities that the only way you can overcome is by slandering others.......
you dont take the time to use any IQ nature may have blessed you with to examine the situaiton on all sides and see if true or not....as soon as this refugee issue came up....you simply saw an opportunity to stick the boot in and slander any greek...what happened man? why this hate for Greeks?
given Turkeys history on human rights, the constant protests over its massacre and subjugation of the Kurds etc etc etc, you shouldnt have the gaul or impudence to speak in criticism of anothers faults....
but i guess sense of shame, isnt something you know much about...
Man take a good hard look at yourself....im not saying your alone...there are some Greeks that share your nasty, low brow and ill spirited attitude.....Ill be honest, you give alot of turks a bad name....i know quite a few, and for every two decent ones, there is always some low scummy one like you.....to ruin their image....
And mundine.....whatever you say or believe...Greece is in EU, Greece is developed not developing.....Greece is respected, lasted thousands of years and will continue to exist while you and your ilk have lonf turned to dust....
Grow up man...someone would think some greek bagged one of your past girlfriends and your still mad about it....
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