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There will be 13 new systems integrated to the aircraft. These are;
Head Up Display (HUD),
Multifunction Color Display (MFCD),
Digital Video Data recorder / Data transfer system (DVDR/DTS),
Hands on throttle and stick(HOTAS),
Intercommunication system(ICS),
V/UHF Communication System
Engine Flight Instrument(EFI),
Cockpit TV System(CTVS),
VOR/ILS,
Avionic Activation Panel (AAP),
Common Control Computer Panel (CCC)
Besides of new avionics systems integration, there will be electrical power distribution system modification, TRU (Transformer Rectifier Unit) and battery integration, development in air conditioning and pitot static system modification.
Optionally;
Ejection Seat change,
Simulator development
Computer based education system will be provided to Turkish Air Force.

J85 Ejector System Development



Thrust increase and fuel saving have been achieved by designing a new ejector for the J85 engines used on T-38 and F-5 aircraft. TEI has undertaken the following activities:

- Design
- Development
- Certification
- Production
- Marketing

The flight tests conducted at Edwards Air Force Base (California, USA) on August 2000 proved significant performance increase on T-38 aircraft.

TEI continues to be the sole manufacturer of the new ejector kit.

New ejectors are used by NASA and USAF.

Engineering Award Winner (2002)


Source:
http://www.tei.com.tr/1/en/rd_projects.asp

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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950), Man and Superman (1903) "Maxims for Revolutionists"

As I already stated, when leading European air forces are replacing these types of aircraft (like Germany), only tellakistan is considering any possible upgrade. LOL

With a contraction of 14% of GDP, you starving peasants can't be picky.

@ Kemi

Could you please tell me the European operators of T-38 Talon ? Except Turkey...

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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950), Man and Superman (1903) "Maxims for Revolutionists"

Don't ask a whore too difficult questions, ask questions like how long do batteries of the dildo last and so on.

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Oglum Bilal, askerlik yan gelip yatma yeri degil artik vatanin milletin icin bol bol izmarit toplarsin. Turkiye seninle gurur duyuyor, heyyyt be yigit asker!

Turkiye Turklerindir

I don't think he even would have to mental capacity to do that, poor kid.

You can't polish a turd. It's still a 1970's design.

An old design, that's correct.

But every pilot agrees on the superior maneuvring capabilities of the T-38, so modernizing this jet ain't such a bad idea, especially if we have the means and technology for it.

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Oglum Bilal, askerlik yan gelip yatma yeri degil artik vatanin milletin icin bol bol izmarit toplarsin. Turkiye seninle gurur duyuyor, heyyyt be yigit asker!

Turkiye Turklerindir

T38 locks onto F-22

lol, you operate a-7s boy...

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"You can't polish a turd. It's still a 1970's design."

I swear these griks would happily disown their mothers because they are going out with a Turkish man.

Cannabis,

How clueless are you? I realize Nutsack is a complete jackass, but you could be the tellak exception.

Look up the Luftwaffe (Germany).

Amazing...last time I checked you were using them for target practice and now you upgrade them???

LOL, perhaps they were training on using radar-guided munitions and forgot that the T-38/F-5 does not have a radar! LOL

"Amazing...last time I checked you were using them for target practice and now you upgrade them??? "

Thats an F-5, but you being grik wouldn't be able to distinguish a whore from your mother.

"Amazing...last time I checked you were using them for target practice and now you upgrade them??"

Yeah, Really amazing... An imbecile which has not enough brain convolutions to distinguish a F-5 from T-38 is trying to make criticize about a state of art project of Turkish defence industry..

Good for you.... You must be one of the white hope man of your nation...

"LOL, perhaps they were training on using radar-guided munitions and forgot that the T-38/F-5 does not have a radar! LOL"

I swear it's as if his Mouth is directly connected to a bulls anus, the ammount of **** that comes out of him is amazing.

Cum-a-door are you directly related to cumilachos ?

Mastur_bator,

Don't get too upset you ****rag, the USA has a large number of replacement airframes in the Arizona desert. Another good blowjob and we'll give you a few more T-38's (like we did in the 80's when we gave you our used junk).

Let it rip ass wipe, come on dont push your **** back in spill it out, i want to hear more **** from you. What else doesnt the T-38/F-5 have ?

"You can't polish a turd. It's still a 1970's design."

Oh really....the F-16's airframe was designed in the early 70's, but yet today it still forms the backbone of most Western airforces, including the USAF and the HAF....how do you explain that you senile old goat?



I Hail The Flag

DirtyAss,

The problem is that the T-38/F-5 is a 1950's design, that first flew in 1959!

PWND once again!

Look who is talking...Clean your own **** in your ass before talking about T-38s...T-2 Buckeye was designed and entered service in 1950s...only Greece left on this earth still using T-2 but your 100% non-functioning brain can not grasp the fact that T-38s have been upgraded by USAF and TuAF to be used another 15-20 years...The sleek designed T-38 provides much better performance than T-2 in almost every aspect of the flight..T-2 can barely makes Mach 0.8 but T-38 can reach Mach 1.3 as weel as simulates dogfights much better than T-2. Even NASA still uses T-38s for their astronaut training...

"The problem is that the T-38/F-5 is a 1950's design, that first flew in 1959! "

Reading is obviously not your strong suit phuckface, Landos was stating its a 70's design and my response was to him not you. However you are correct the T-38 is a 50's design but so is the B-52, C-130 and U-2, all of which are currently in frontline service hence my argument still stands.

Since I've pawned both of you retards I think you should give eachother a hug now.

I Hail The Flag

DDDB, I've forgotten more about military aircraft than you ever knew. The F-16 is an upgradeable package and was designed that way. The F-5/T-38 was not. It's not an effective advanced trainer anymore. Deal with it, falkface.

"...but so is the B-52, C-130 and U-2, all of which are currently in frontline service hence my argument still stands. ..."


Excluding the completely upgraded C-130 that flies in many airforces today...... B-52s and U-2s still in frontline today??


LOL RETARD... do you still get your infos from early 1990s magazines?....
Just LOL!!!

Re Landos,

You guys are repeating like parrots only that the T-38 is an old design. Just give one example why the T-38 is not a good trainer when upgraded. Does she lack speed, maneuverabbility, getting the required G-forces? What?

Besides upgrading the T-38 indigenously is completely in objective with our strategy. SSM is working in pre-study phase to design an indigenous jet trainer aircraft, currently the "hurkus" turboprop is being designed. You have to be blind to see the canyon of abbilities between Greece and Turkey



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Greek WAFF'er

Turkish WAFF'er

Turkiye Turklerindir

@ Kemi

Quote: Cannabis, How clueless are you? I realize Nutsack is a complete jackass, but you could be the tellak exception. Look up the Luftwaffe (Germany).

I intentionally asked you above question of mine, see if you know a sh!t what you're talking.

German Air Force flying with T-38s under USAF roundel in USA, not in Germany. Only T-38 operators in Europe are: Portugal and Turkey.

more T-38s......


Test pilots and flight test engineers are trained in T-38As at the U.S. Air Force Test Pilot School at Edwards Air Force Base, Calif. Air Force Materiel Command uses T-38As to test experimental equipment such as electrical and weapon systems. The Alliance agreement allows qualified NASA Dryden Flight Research Center pilots to fly particular Air Force Flight Test Center aircraft, like the T-38 Talon, and vice versa.



Four T-38 Talons in formation. Talons are twin-engine, high-altitude, supersonic jet trainers used by the 50th Fighter Training Squadron, Columbus Air Force Base, Miss., in a variety of roles because of its design, economy of operations, ease of maintenance, high performance and exceptional safety record. Primarily Air Education and Training Command uses it for undergraduate pilot and pilot instructor training. Student pilots fly the T-38A to learn supersonic techniques, aerobatics, formation, night and instrument flying and cross-country navigation. More than 60,000 pilots have earned their wings in the T-38A.


RANDOLPH AIR FORCE BASE, Texas -- The cockpit of the T-38C Talon trainer features improved avionics and support systems that make it closer in design to fighter aircraft like the F-15 Eagle, F-16 Fighting Falcon and F/A-22 Raptor.


RANDOLPH AIR FORCE BASE, Texas -- The T-38C Talon trainer's "glass cockpit" features digital instrument displays that are found in the new T-38C aircraft. The glass cockpit also allows virtual reality views of realistic flight environments.


EDWARDS AIR FORCE BASE, Calif. -- A T-38 Talon takes off from here with only one engine during single-engine takeoff testing. The high-risk testing the aircraft is undergoing will help determine the safest single engine takeoff speed for the aircraft if an engine fail during takeoff.


First Lt. Stephen Thomas (left) and Capt. Lars Holten prepare for take-off in a T-38 Talon at Sheppard Air Force Base, Texas. Captain Holten, from Norway, and Lieutenant Thomas are in the Euro-NATO Joint Jet Pilot Training program; the captain is an instructor pilot.


Too bad they can't afford to have a training fleet like USAF or TuAF has...



B-2 and F-117(retired) pilots also conducting their training missions with T-38s...


WELL WELL WELL....look what we have here:


An air-to-air right side view of a TA-4 Skyhawk aircraft, top left, a TA-7 Corsair II aircraft, top right, a T-38 Talon aircraft, bottom left, and a T-2 Buckeye aircraft in flight near the Naval Air Test Center Patuxent River, Maryland.

FOR SOME IGNORANT GREEKS OUT THERE...US NAVY ALSO USING T-38 IN NAVAL TEST PILOT ACADEMY and TEST NAS....


NASA T-38 Talon aircraft parked on the flight line.





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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950), Man and Superman (1903) "Maxims for Revolutionists"

"Excluding the completely upgraded C-130 that flies in many airforces today...... B-52s and U-2s still in frontline today??"

@ AHERON.....The B-52H and the U-2R are still in active service with the USAF dipschit, if you cant prove otherwise go suck on a dick instead of wasting my precious time with schit eating low life scum sucking clueless retards like you!



I Hail The Flag

"DDDB, I've forgotten more about military aircraft than you ever knew. The F-16 is an upgradeable package and was designed that way. The F-5/T-38 was not. It's not an effective advanced trainer anymore. Deal with it, falkface."

Landos I wouldnt be suprised if you forgot what you had for dinner last night let alone all the things you claim to have forgotten about military aircraft. Afterall you are a senior citizen and like they say, age is not a disease! So allow me to enlighten you and perhaps jarr your memory in the process.

Perhaps you've forgotten about the F-20 Tigershark, let me remind you, it was an upgrade to the F-5E! Be sure to google F-20 Tigershark after you limp away from this public flogging.

The T-38 is a LIFT trainer not a combat aircraft, so I am not sure what you mean when you say the T-38 is not effective anymore Its primary purpose is to teach trainee pilots how to operate high performance combat jets and in this respect the T-38 is first rate and will continue to be first rate for a long time, perhaps even after you and I have left this life. You ask why, well because the F-5/T-38/F-20 basic design has very good aerodynamic properties which are on par if not better in some respects to contemporary frontline fighters like the F-16. Its not a myth that NASA uses T-38's to keep their astronaut pilots proficient and its not a myth that every USAF pilot for the last half century has been trained on a T-38 and will do so for the next ten/fifteen years at least.

Sure the T-38 is long in the tooth, but there are comprehensive upgrade packages out there such as the one the USAF and the TAF are using, so why should the T-38's be tossed out when they can be upgraded and continue to be effective for a fraction of the price of purchasing new LIFT aircraft. If every old thing had to be tossed out then whats your excuse for still hanging around?






I Hail The Flag

In the meantime Greeks are delaying and delaying their projects, ohi para



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DDDB, my brother was a USAF fighter pilot and did training on T-38's. He knows more about them than you'll ever know. And he freely admits it's an outdated design today-as an advanced trainer.

As for the F-20, exactly how many of those were sold???? Answer-NOT ONE! All it was was an F-5E Tiger II platform with an enlarged engine. Still, it had a poor payload capability due to OBSOLESCENT STRUCTURE-SMALL WINGS, BAD LOCATION OF HARDPOINTS, ETC..

Don't lecture me on aircraft, since it's obvious you don't know a god damned thing-other than what you look up in websites.

"The B-52H and the U-2R are still in active service with the USAF "

Only because the USAF can afford to deploy the MASSIVE electronic warfare command/control capability that makes these ANCIENT weapons systems viable. Any other nation trying to use a B-52 in a 21st century warfare environment would end up getting them all shot down by enemy AA systems. All the B-52 is for the USAF is a cheap air 'truck' for dropping dumb bomb ordinance on Afghan and Iraqi conscripts.

You're so damn dumb that you make a fool of yourself with every post, DDDB.

@ Landos spare me your "I know everything you know nothing horseschit", I have more respect for a three day old stinking turd than I do for you. If you want to debate intelligently do it, otherwise go phuck yourself.

"Still, it had a poor payload capability due to OBSOLESCENT STRUCTURE-SMALL WINGS, BAD LOCATION OF HARDPOINTS, ETC"

...and how are these relevant to a LIFT aircraft...they're not....how many times did your brother go on bombing runs or live firing exercises with his T-38....thats right he didnt.....my point in mentioning the F-20 was not to prove that the F-5 is suitable for frontline combat duty but to counter your notions that the airframe is not "upgradeable", whatever the phuck that means.

...and yet again a simple fact you fail to get into your thick aging skull is that the T-38 is a Lead In Trainer not a combat aircraft. Afterall all this, if you want to continue being an obstinate phuck then be my guest since you've proven time and time again thats all you're capable of!



I Hail The Flag

" All the B-52 is for the USAF is a cheap air 'truck' for dropping dumb bomb ordinance on Afghan and Iraqi conscripts. "


....yes and thats why they can carry precision munitions like the TASM and the Have Nap and thats why they're packed to the gills with electronic warfare equipment and thats why the USAF spent billions upgrading and maintaining them....just to be used as "cheap" bomb trucks against camel jockeys......you're such a halfassed monkey its hard to believe you're even a grown man let alone an aging man.





I Hail The Flag

Keep on posting your half-facts and unsupported statements, chit for brains. Anyone with any knowledge on the subject can discern your a 'keyboard expert' who gets his facts-such as they are-from Wikpedia and other internet forums for the functionally illiterate.

The 3 day old stinking turd probably has similar aroma to your breath and armpits. Now isn't it time for you to go pray facing Mecha (and the A-hole of the Moslem in front of you?), dipchit?

It was Landass' daddy a while ago who was the master of planes and supposedly where the old hag inherited all his knowledge from, this time around it is his brother. Soon he will claim that it was his dad that gave him birth since his mom was busy repelling the Turkish gang outta the battle fields. Is not that so??? LMAO!!

You are so stupid and a plain idiot you the greek of the states...

Joyblade

you are warned for family insults

 

Ejection Seat RFP is issued in order to receive proposals for procurement of 112 ejection seats and related training, technical support, documentation, initial spares and ground support equipments for Turkish Air Forces T-38 Aircraft of which modernization activities is continuing.

http://www.ssm.gov.tr/TR/duyurular/proje1/Pages/2009ariprojesi.aspx

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On 12 June 1992, a Greek Mirage F-1C crashed during a dogfight with a Turkish F-16 piloted by Capt. Ilhan Filiz.

On 8 October 1996, a Greek Mirage-2000 piloted by Thanos Grivas shot down a Turkish F-16D with a Magic IR missile.

Just two days after that murder, on 10 October 1996 a Greek Mirage-2000 crashed close to Semadirek island after a dogfight with two Turkish F-16s.

Point of the story is: TUAF saved itself two missiles.