- Aselsan Stinger Weapon Platform will race with USA developed Avanger to win a victory for Chilian Shorad tender...

- AselPod will be in service in 2011-12. (2,4m Length, 43cm width, 220kg Weight)

- Aselsan has developed Aselflir 235 Thermal targetting pod for foreign markets, (Export version of AselFlir-300T)

- The picture that shows a seeker head with a radar in IDEF2009 was a seeker section of "Turkish anti-ship missile" as We claimed...

- Turkish Aselsan SPAAG system will able to lock and fire the enemy targets While moving.

- Turkish Spaag's seeker radar is able to track the targets with a range from 30km...

- Alper LPI ship radar tests have been completed. Alper uses FMCW technic with the range options of 12/24/36nm...

- Serdar-P coastal watch radar has also been developed. Alper and Serdar-P uses same technology but Serdar-P turns 6 round in 1 minutes While Alper turns 24 round in same minutes...

- Milgem, ARES-2N naval radar ES system detects, intercepts, identifies, classifies, tracks, Direction-Finds (DF), localises, platform correlates, records and provides audio warnings of threat signals within the 2 to 18 GHz frequency band. Ares-2N with different consols have already used in Ruzgar class assault boats. Threat library has been developed by ArmerKom institue.

-New ARES-2NS(direction sensitivity is under 3rms) version with Alper LPI is being planned to integrate Ay class submarine moderniztion and U-214TN's...

-Hacettepe University has developed new RAM materials and paints to use underwater platforms. Authorities have integrates related materials to a Gur class submarine to test all functions of stealth level under water during 1 year. The results are perfect.. After test results, Authorities agreed to integrate new RAM materials and paints to all Gur class submarines which being in Turkish inventory...


- BAIT clever acustic torpedo decoy family have been developed by Aselsan, Bilkent, ODTU and Tubitak R&D team...

- BAIT for Ay class submarines; Lapin ( jamming ), Mercan ( misleading )
- BAIT for Preveze and Gur class submarines, Cipura ( Jamming ), CaCa ( movable misleading )
- BAIT for U-214TN, Lipsoz (movable jamming), Eskina ( Misleading )
- BAIT for surface platforms; Dulger (Jamming), Mezgit (Misleading)

- Nes R&D project of Aselsan, Hizir is the general name of Surface ship Torpedo defence systems.. third Milgem will start carrying Aselsan Hizir instead of Ultra Electronics' SeaSentor SSTD systems... First mechanic tests will be placed in 2009 summer, Acuistic tests will be placed in 2010... 1 Soft-kill "Hizir" system involves;

-Towed detection array
-Signal procesing unit
-Control/display unit (2x)
-Decoy units (2x)
-Noice decoys
-Noice towed sonars


Hizir able to defeat 2 new generation torpedos simultaneously. In addition to that, Hizir able to follow 6 different target simultaneously...

- Aselsan-MKEK has officially signed an agreement to develop Turkish SPAAG and Light Weight Towed Howitzers...


- After Chilian 100 Leo-1 Modernization program, Chilian Famae and Aselsan is going to cooperate to export Aselsan products for Latine American countries...

- Havelsan and KAI has agreed to export Havelsani made simulators of KT-1 basic trainer for foreign markets...

- Roketsan is going to produce control actuating system of Patriot GEM-T missiles.

- Roketsan and UAE Burkan has agreed to coproduce Roketsan made 107 - 122mm rockets for UAE needs...(70 million$)

- Turkish F-16, F-4 2020 and F-35 Block IV are going to able to launch Tubitak HGSS JDAM...

- Turkish HGSS CEP (INS/GPS-10m, INS-25m), USA JDAM CEP (INS/GPS-13m, INS-30m ) happy.gif

- Serial production phrase for first 200 HGSS has been started...

- Tubitak-Aselsan is developing same HGSS' with two side wings to reach more longer ranges...

- TAI and ITU have finally signed agreement to develop light weight helicopter...

- TAI is going to develop indigenous utility helicopter (TOHP) After current helicopter tender of SSM...

- Aselsan, Tubitak, ODTU and Metesan (ATOM Team) has connected to develop Phrased array radar (Cafrad) for TF-2000 AAW frigates until 2016...

- We will hear great export news of TIHA-A MALE UAV for future...

- A raptorial has attacked to Bayraktar mini-UAV, While UAV is performing mission navigation to detect PKK terorists... happy.gif

- Saudi Arabia has selected Bayraktar Mini UAV... Signiture ceremony will be performed in 2009.

- Strategic stealth technology development process will be finished in 2009. All RAM technologies will be tested on TIHA or more bigger platform...

- TEI, Roketsan and Tubitak started developing new Turbojet engine...

- ODTU Aerospace and Space Engineering has developed "morphing aircraft" technology. SSM will start using this technology on mini-UAV systems in near future...

- Indigenous Anti-Radiasyon /attach UAV development project will start officially in 2010.. [500km range, 7 hours endurance, Fire-forget, RF guided UAV]..

-Turkey and Syria have signed defence industry cooperation agreement...

-Turkey and Kuwait have signed defence ccoperation agreement

-TEI's workshare for F-136 engines will be 3 billion $

-Turkish share has reached 6.5 billion$ for 100 F-35...

-Vecdi Gonul, "TEI will be the engine center of those region in future with indigenous engine families"...

-Indigenous Jet/Turbofan engines will be ready until 2015-16...

Agusta Westland CEO: We do not want to sell T-149 to Turkey, We only want to co-design, develop and co-export T-149 for 3rd countries...


Offer;

-T-149 production, tests and delivery will be performed by Turkish defence industry.
-Final assembly for all Turkish T-149 will be performed by Turkish defence industry.
-Certification process will be performed by Turkish defence industry.
-Gear boxes, fuselage and all another critical technologies will be developed in cooperation with Turkish defence industry...
-Equal partnership agreement with equal selling rights...

Thanx bro, are there any pictures of the ARES-2N?

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Turkiye Turklerindir

More defence junk that nobody will buy. Recession has everyone cutting back on defence expenditures.

good work cabatli

-Italy has offered their 76mm one barrel SPAAG system with DART munition tech. to develop Turkish Spaag based on their system but SSM has officially rejected cause of differences of need and want to develop Turkish Spaag indigenously...

-Raytheon and Lockhedmartin has cooperated to win Turkish long range air defence missile system...

-T-LoRAMIDS, 12 battery air defence misisle system. At least %50 offset and national contribution...

Thanks bro.. Ellerine saglik:)

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Yourwelcome brothers...

Ares-2N seen in this picture which was mounted at the top of submarine mock-up, Nutuk bro...

Ares is Grik!

-United Arab Emirates has ordered 35 item STAMP system...

-In future, Turkish defence industry is going to develop own air defence missile family...

great job bro, but whats a raptorial?

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If I got it right, the eagle thought bayraktar were a helpless bird and tried to eat it

Aselsan, Tubitak, ODTU and Metesan (ATOM Team) has connected to develop Phased array radar (Cafrad) for TF-2000 AAW frigates until 2016...
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Something like the SMART-L?



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Turkiye Turklerindir

I do not suppose... Must be 2016 target of Aselsan...

So the plans of an Aegis system are abandoned? No Spy-1 radar?

That sucks, it will make the TF-2000 less capable than an Aegis equiped frigate and more in the class of FREMM.

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Turkiye Turklerindir

"So the plans of an Aegis system are abandoned? No Spy-1 radar? "

If Atom team is able to develop it in time, Most probably yes !!! Bro, We do not know the ability level of those team now a days... Who know ? Maybe, They will develop a Phased Array radar which has equal (or more) quality standarts with Aegis systems... I support to develop those radar with national capabilities...

Well the 2016 project is an APAR radar like:



which is still less capable than the Aegis system. But heck on the other hand it is also illogic to expect a delivery of full functionality Aegis from the US, most likely a downgraded one.

So yes I guess to build our own APAR is the right way to go

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Turkiye Turklerindir

It´s the right way to go for our own radar systems because the more knowledge and know how we gain from our R&Ds the more US will leave it´s restrictions aginst us in this issiue.. We´we seen this before in other defence areas!

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Cabatli bro, I think you've provided enough material to fill 20 Greek defence magazines. They should put you on pay check!



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Turkiye Turklerindir

More defence junk that nobody will buy. Recession has everyone cutting back on defence expenditures.

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the only reason why even those are developed is because the ssm run its self as government organization with its own taxes and special privileges..

in reality little of the "projects" enter production face and those that do with a technological time gap of 3 decades..


spreading these "r and D" projects is excellent news for Greece...

take for instance t-129 .it will eat up 5% of the Turkish defence budget for the next years only for maintenance (since turgay needs to set up a native spare parts industry to accommodate the projects) and further development , just to keep it in line with modern helicopters capabilities..

few projects like those and turgay military budget goes up in smokes..

I would be so greatful if there were sh magazine in e book form(pdf) for download...

hint cabatli mucuks hint

I remember the very old days of S&H which i was able to buy with hope, disapointed reading direct purhase programs, being angry to read the editor's (what was his name? the guy with full of beard with an angry looking face if im not mistaken) critisizes among Turkish Defence Strategy. That was about 10-12 years ago i was just a kid.

There was a Turkish defence forum i totally forgot the name whose some of posters were professionals, i dunno what they are doing now, i found the site closed when i had turned back from my training at sea. But they were the tough guys exactly i missed to read.. Maybe some of them still writing on that new "restricted" forum which i ve never learned the reason why but im sure they have the reasonable reasons. Anyway.

Many times passed, many things changed in that time, now im not be able to follow the magazine & the sector due to my job but as everything changed, our defence sector also changed. We have the capability to provide at least %50 of our needs and by the projects that Cabatli bro posted in the future that will be much more. But the best part is, all projects are the qualified indigenous ones which will be able to compete with the most advanced opponents.

I wonder if that good old magazine's editor is still the same guy, if he is, i hope this time he has a happy looking picture of him on the 3rd page of the magazine today.

Cabatli;

That was one of the best thread we saw lately thanks bro and keep up the good work especially the ones coming from "my" magazine.



"Independence is My Character"
M. Kemal ATATÜRK

Thanks for the news Cabatli.

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Freedom is never free.

Re Polaris,

I remember the very old days of S&H which i was able to buy with hope, disapointed reading direct purhase programs, being angry to read the editor's (what was his name? the guy with full of beard with an angry looking face if im not mistaken) critisizes among Turkish Defence Strategy. That was about 10-12 years ago i was just a kid.
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You mean dear Hakki Aris?
Well he had a point to critisize since then the Turkish defence projects where handled as backward as the Greek ones, a lot has changed indeed.


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Turkiye Turklerindir

cabatlı bro thanks for the summary. I am gateful about the latest news from Turkish defence ind.

- Strategic stealth technology development process will be finished in 2009. All RAM technologies will be tested on TIHA or more bigger platform...

- TEI, Roketsan and Tubitak started developing new Turbojet engine...will be ready until 2015-16...

- ODTU Aerospace and Space Engineering has developed "morphing aircraft" technology. SSM will start using this technology on mini-UAV systems in near future...

- Indigenous Anti-Radiation /attack UAV development project will start officially in 2010.. [500km range, 7 hours endurance, Fire-forget, RF guided UAV]..
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Not funny to be a Greek!


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Turkiye Turklerindir

Well he had a point to critisize since then the Turkish defence projects where handled as backward as the Greek ones, a lot has changed indeed.

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indeed it has;Greek are dropping the co production blunder for direct purchases for advance systems(cost half) and turgays are not only going full scale co-production but they also entering into development procedures..(which is always good news for the Greeks)

by 2030 turgay needs to structural support 500-600 different production and further development lines ....(running on 15 billion budget that would come handy)

hell you should go indigenous also in the car industry...



Greeks should thank ssm for making Greece safe for the next 50 years.silly Greeks they could developed a new frigate program for 20 billions but no they insist on buying them for a quarter of the price..

You don't like our industry anus?

Yet in 1974 while we had only 1/20 of what we have now was enough to beat up your misserable country, imagine what the future could do.

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Turkiye Turklerindir

Yourwelcome brothers... Thanks for your kind understandings...


Two hard rival, Vestel and Kale-Baykar are racing for tactical UAV tender of SSM...

Vestel Tactic UAV...
-18000ft altitude
-10 hours endurance
-150km data transportation capability
-Day/Night cameras, Laser distance finder, Laser pointer
-Capable to take landing gear in...



Kale-Baykar Tactical UAV
-18000ft altitude
-45kg useful load
-10 hours edurance
--Day/Night cameras, Laser distance finder, Laser pointer

-Turkey has withdrawed from NATO AGS project Because, Turkey had offered NATO to choose Corlu, Turkey as a main base of NATO AGS project but When NATO choosed Sigonelli, Italy as a main area of AGS project, Turkey has withdrawed from this project...


A picture from FNSS IDEF 2009

fnss has bmp 3 turret the pars would look verry intimidating with it

fiber glass junk with no armor testing...

i wonder if any combat simulating testing have performed on any of that junk>?


well , one have been made, cobra wasn't able to withstand automatic gun rounds and was easy pray for rpgs....

F@ck off from that thread, Imbecile, Parasite... If you keep spamming real subject of this thread too like you did another one, I will notify you to S/C forum...

Turkish LCT, Attention to 2 STOP, 1 Stamp turrets...

I like the 2 STOP's but why not install the Aselsan missile launcher with 3 RAM missiles for selfprotection?

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Turkiye Turklerindir

"why not install the Aselsan missile launcher with 3 RAM missiles for selfprotection?"

Maybe, Bora's are being planned to integrate more strategic naval systems such as corvettes, patrol boats...

nutuk is right the tanks need covering fire from the air no need from the ground the tanks can stand against ground attacks but the air

The corvettes get a better protection with 21x RAM launcher.

If it was up to me I'd get rid of the STAMP and place a Bora with 3 RAM missiles on top.

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Turkiye Turklerindir

when i look at it closer i see more room at the back maybe if they place the atilgan there stationed for defence just behinde the last sabra tank

TURGAYS 3d world is getting better and better..