Turkey has canceled an annual joint air force drill that was to have taken place this week because it opposed Israeli participation, the Israeli military said, in the latest sign of deteriorating relations between the two countries.

Turkey, a secular country ruled by an Islamic-oriented party, had long been Israel's best friend in the Muslim world. But ties have cooled sharply over Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan's sharp criticism of Israel's winter war in the Gaza Strip.

The Israeli military said the drill was delayed indefinitely "because of Turkey's decision to change the composition of the participants and not allow the Israeli air force to take part."

The exercise was to have been the sixth annual maneuver of its kind. The military said it was to have included U.S., Italian and NATO forces.

Israeli defense officials said Ankara canceled the drill after the U.S. pulled out over the Turkish decision to blackball Israel.

They spoke on condition of anonymity because they weren't authorized to discuss the matter with the media.

Israel and Turkey have wide-ranging military, economic and strategic ties, and last year Ankara hosted months of indirect talks between Israel and Syria after an eight-year breakdown.

But Erdogan's criticism of Israel's Gaza war thrust Turkey into the role of championing Gaza's Iranian-backed Hamas rulers, a militant group shunned by Israel and the West. Tensions peaked when the Turkish leader stormed out of a high-profile conference where he confronted Israel's president over steep Palestinian civilian casualties.

Palestinian officials and human rights groups say more than 900 civilians died in the offensive, which was launched to halt years of rocket fire from Gaza on southern Israel. Israel disputes that number but has provided no evidence to back up that claim.

Turkish-Israeli ties have been tested in the past by earlier Israeli attacks on Palestinians but strong security interests helped to mend fences.

Turkey and Israel grew close in the mid-1990s, their alliance based on mutual fears of Iran and Syria. Israel has supplied hundreds of millions of dollars of military hardware to Turkey over the years, the two countries conduct joint naval exercises and the Israeli air force trains over Turkish airspace.

But since Erdogan's government came to power in 2003, Turkey's ties with Iran and Hamas have warmed. Turkey believes the Islamic militant Hamas, which rules the Gaza Strip, must play a key role in the Palestinian territories

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=israel-turkey-calls-off-joint-air-force-drill-2009-10-11

Truth about Turkish Crimes against Humanity, please visit:

http://www.unitedhumanrights.org/Genocide/armenian_genocide.htm

in the latest sign of deteriorating relations between the two countries

 

Truth about Turkish Crimes against Humanity, please visit:

http://www.unitedhumanrights.org/Genocide/armenian_genocide.htm

Its ok though, the turco rats have friends in Iran and Hamas

 

Truth about Turkish Crimes against Humanity, please visit:

http://www.unitedhumanrights.org/Genocide/armenian_genocide.htm

wait wait, what's this?

"since Erdogan's government came to power in 2003, Turkey's ties with Iran and Hamas have warmed"

Truth about Turkish Crimes against Humanity, please visit:

http://www.unitedhumanrights.org/Genocide/armenian_genocide.htm

LONG LIVE AK PARTY AND ERDOGAN!!






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""Oh Solomon, I have surpassed thee. I am God's slave and the Sultan of this world. I am Suleiman, in whose name the Friday ceremonies read in Mecca and Medina, in Baghdad I am the Shah, in Byzantine Romes I am the Caesar, and in Egypt the Sultan.""

Suleiman the Magnificent (reign 1520-1566)

They're going to piss the jews off. LOL

Israel was the friend of the zionist kemalists in Turkiye, their time is over.

Turkiye is now governed by a Muslim goverment for the first time.

SOON the Arab world will join us in force and Israel will be a tiny island in Muslim sea, like Constatinople and it will cease to exist in a matter of time once our KAliphate re established.

ALLAHU EKBER



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""Oh Solomon, I have surpassed thee. I am God's slave and the Sultan of this world. I am Suleiman, in whose name the Friday ceremonies read in Mecca and Medina, in Baghdad I am the Shah, in Byzantine Romes I am the Caesar, and in Egypt the Sultan.""

Suleiman the Magnificent (reign 1520-1566)

Uh huh. Islam is the wave of the future. Because it's SO PROGRESSIVE. LOL.

Dream on, Abdul.

Turkey has canceled an annual joint air force drill that was to have taken place this week because it opposed Israeli participation, the Israeli military said, in the latest sign of deteriorating relations between the two countries.

Turks let me make something clear for you if you still have the brains to understand, if you dont want to participate in joint exercises with Israelis just cancel your military alliance with them, as long as you have been allies to Israel it means that you accept their country and their actions as they are.

the rest are insignificant displays of idiocy which have nothing to do with reality

Turks you need to decide either you want Israelies as your allies or not, as long as you keep your alliance with them intact you simply do not have the right to cancel joint air force drills or anything of the short with them.

ODYSSEUS KILLING THE SUITORS

Turks , it is not enough for you that you keep a peace keeping force in Afhganistan which in reality is an euphemism for describing those who are incompetent and are doing nothing in an alliance demanding  for offshets in return, but you betray Israelies too as it was expectable from Muslim scumbags like yourselves by not allowing your selves to participate in a common air force drill with them

Turks, you have the second biggest army in NATO and despite of your size you have been untrustworthy allies and incompetent

better choose your sides better in the future, if you dont like America and Israel you need to form an alliance with Egypt, Iranians, Pakistanis, and Talibans

you loosers.

ODYSSEUS KILLING THE SUITORS

Let me explain something to you cry baby motherfvckers who still dont understand...

We are TURKS, we do WHAT the hell we like, WHEN the hell we like, and HOW we like -

We really dont give a sht about Israel or Armenia or any other little rathole country that wants to pick a bone with us.

We are TURKS, we do WHAT the hell we like, WHEN the hell we like, and HOW we like -

We really dont give a sht about Israel or Armenia or any other little rathole country that wants to pick a bone with us.

you are just unreliable worthless idiots, better United States and Israel should take this into consideration when they form alliances with countries like Turkey.



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you are a puppet state, you follow direct orders from United States it is not enough for you that you betrayed your own brothers Azeris in their war against Armenians but you signed a deal with them under the pressure of Hilari Clinton betraying their cause once again. Not to mention that you left Northern Iraq under the orders of the Americans, you are Turks and thats why you bow your head to the Americans asking for favors and offshets like a bitch who has been offering nothing else than her self,. the word dignity means nothing to your nation.

you are incompetent worthless scumbags allas to those who trust you and your likes.

ODYSSEUS KILLING THE SUITORS

"We are TURKS, we do WHAT the hell we like, WHEN the hell we like, and HOW we like "

Uncle Sam snaps his fingers and you dance. You do WHAT he likes, WHEN he likes it and HOW he likes it. LOL

See this is difference between you slaves and us, just one phonecall from Washington or Moscow or whoever your Master-Power is and you dance like the slaves you are...

We Turks give royal finger to whomever we like if we dont like the tune, we tell USA to fvck off many times and they could not do sht about it, they know it and whole world knows it - They wanted to invade Iraq from Turkey, we told them to pisss off, they wanted to use Airspace we told them to GO fvck themselves, they begged us not to intervene in N.Iraq we went ahead and did what we wanted anyway

Sure we co-operate too, but its all part of the same game - i mean Americans actually like us because if there is one thing we both have in common.... we both like our BIG GUNS

puck the AKP they can go to hell we r a secular country not an islamic republic no matter how hard those AKP head cases wish for . We r no Arabs so who gives a puck about there problems with Israel ! .

"Turks you need to decide either you want Israelies as your allies or not, as long as you keep your alliance with them intact you simply do not have the right to cancel joint air force drills or anything of the short with them."

I wonder what event in your life lead you to think this way. your definition of being allies is co operation between nations no matter what? we should agree with and adhere to any decision our allies make just because they are our allies?

and then you pull out "you are a puppet state" now I don't disagree with you here but just before you were pretty much saying we disobeyed orders.

so in your eyes we are either a puppet state when we follow US interests or bad allies when we don't. but if I were a betting man i'd guess that somehow in your mind we are both.

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The AKP is seen as the solution to the Problems we had and will encounter in the near future thay have just been in the right place ate the right time thats all many changes had been implicated previously the AKP taking power . Criticizing Israels actions against Hamas in Gaza is one thing taking it personally just coz the believe in the same religion is an entirely different thing at all . By now we have told Israel they r no longer welcome just coz there is the general feeling that we have to support those Palestinians head cases it is not our problem !.Being responsible and criticizing Israel is by far all we should be doing thats all . But then it is them who could have there own state when Israel was formed the refused and look what they have now IT is not our problem I say let em get what the deserve puck em we r no Arabs let em handle it but we all know they can't even handle there owe problems once again not our problem .

^ what you mean it is not our problem i hope you know that they are also supporting the pkk terrorist as well even training as well and if i want to get back at them for that i would go threw hamas as well

@CharlieTurk (or any other mature poster)

Are there any elections coming up in the near future in which the AKP (or affiliate regional or local party) are facing a tight race?

I don't really doubt Erdogan's sincere interest in the affairs of the Palestinians, his actions just strike me as a little too theatrical (but ultimately practical..http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/english/finance/10898837.asp) to not be politically motivated.

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"Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it."
George Bernard Shaw

sorry coalde but i'm not the one to ask about politics I have no idea. our last election were in 07 so the next one will be in 2011 i think.

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I have mixed feelings on the decissions. On one hand it is nice to see Turkey bold enough to refuse the US or Israel if there is a disagreement on the other hand it is clearly not so wise.

Maybe Turkey knows more than we forumers do and there is a strike on Iran upcoming, thus Turkey wants to show and underline she's is impartial (at least this is what comes up to my mind), Palestinians and Gaza is just the excuse.

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Power is the ultimate afrodisiak (Henry kissinger)

Maybe?, it's virtually a sure thing. This is absolutely why turkey has "rejected" Israel's participation....... turkey didn't outrightly say so though. Turkey claimed it was due to "technical reasons"



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JERUSALEM Turkey has called off an international military drill because it opposed Israel's participation, Israeli defense officials said Sunday, a move that sent strained relations between the two nations to a new low.

Turkey has long been the Jewish state's best friend in the Muslim world. But ties have deteriorated dramatically since Israel's war last winter against Islamic militants in the Gaza Strip, which killed hundreds of civilians.

Turkey, a secular country ruled by an Islamic-oriented party, strongly condemned the Israeli offensive. Tensions soared after Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan stormed out of a high-profile conference where he confronted Israel's president over steep Palestinian civilian casualties.

Turkey's surprise cancellation of the air force drill, which was also to include the U.S. and NATO, was the first time its criticism of Israel has been translated into concrete action.

A brief statement posted on the Turkish military's Web site said the sixth annual Anatolia Eagle drill would take place Oct. 10-23, but that international participation had been canceled after "international negotiations conducted by the Turkish Foreign Ministry."

A Turkish government official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue, insisted that the decision was "due to a technical matter" rather than a political decision.

However, both Israeli and NATO officials confirmed the Turks had banned Israel from the drill. "The exercise has been postponed as a result of Turkey's decision to change the list of participating countries, thus excluding Israel," the army said in a statement.

Israeli officials said that in response to Turkey's decision against Israel, the U.S. pulled out of the exercise, forcing Ankara to cancel the drill. They spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter with the media. There was no immediate U.S. comment.

The defense officials expressed disappointment with the decision. Beyond the diplomatic damage, they said the drill is an important training opportunity for Israeli pilots, who generally are confined to Israel's limited airspace.

Israeli officials are also concerned about Turkey's growing alliance with Iran. Israel considers Iran its greatest threat, citing Tehran's suspect nuclear program and its support for anti-Israel militant groups.

Turkey and Israel grew close in the mid-1990s, their alliance based on mutual fears of Iran, Iraq and Syria.

Israel has supplied hundreds of millions of dollars of military equipment to Turkey over the years and has renovated Turkish tanks and fighter planes. The two countries have also conducted joint naval exercises, including a drill with the U.S. in the Mediterranean in August, the Israeli air force has trained over Turkish airspace and last year Turkey hosted months of indirect talks between Israel and Syria after an eight-year breakdown. Turkey is also a popular destination for Israeli tourists.

But since Erdogan's Islamic government came to power in 2003, Turkey's ties with Israel have cooled as it has grown closer to Iran, Syria and Hamas the Islamic leaders of Gaza.

Efraim Inbar, director of the Begin-Sadat Center for Strategic Studies, said that during the Gaza war, Turkey took an even more anti-Israel stance than Arab nations such as Egypt, Jordan and Saudi Arabia. He said it was part of a Turkish foreign policy of distancing itself from the West, and "this comes at the expense of Israel."

Mustafa Kibaroglu, an expert on Turkish-Israeli relations at assistant at Ankara's Bilkent University, called Turkey's ties to these Muslim nations "precarious."

"Should there be deterioration for any reason, then relations with Israel could again gain a strategic importance," he said. "I believe that from an economic point of view, technologically and for security reasons, the two countries need each other."

Turkish-Israeli ties have been tested in the past, but the shared security interests have persevered over any political disagreements.

Deputy Israeli Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon seemed to be trying to temper tensions Sunday, calling Turkey a "very important strategic anchor in the Mideast."

"Certainly its ties with Israel serve the entire region," Ayalon told Israel Radio, adding that "all of us want a tolerant Turkey that is part of Western civilization, and certainly an antithesis to the Iranian model."

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Associated Press Writer Suzan Fraser contributed to this report from Ankara, Turkey.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091011/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_israel_turkey



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How ethically and morally wise it is to train israeli pilots when our prime minister accuse Israel of killing civilians with air strikes which is true. Wise or not, at least it is consistent.

I wonder what event in your life lead you to think this way. your definition of being allies is co operation between nations no matter what? we should agree with and adhere to any decision our allies make just because they are our allies?

and then you pull out "you are a puppet state" now I don't disagree with you here but just before you were pretty much saying we disobeyed orders.

so in your eyes we are either a puppet state when we follow US interests or bad allies when we don't. but if I were a betting man i'd guess that somehow in your mind we are both.

my definition of alliance is of course mutual defense cooperation which include participation in joint drills otherwise we are not talking about an alliance but a joke, if you dont agree with the foreign policy of your partners then you have the right to disagree as much as you like however what you dont have the right to do is to abstain from joint military exercises an alliance is an alliance if you dont like your ally then he shouldnt be you ally in the first place but as long as you choose them and you knew of course their foreign policy against Palestinians, Iranians and Arabs which are Muslims and therefore your brothers  from the beggining but despite that you still choose to have a military alliance with them then you de facto accept their foreign policy as it is.

a serious country does not put into jepardy her alliances the way you do.

your relationship with the Americans is one of the puppet and the master of course you make sure to get the most in return for a participation which again is nothing substantial to NATO, the problem is that although you pretend that you dont follow the orders of the Americans in certain cases you are still doing  it . Leaving Northern Iraq was clearly a defeat of your country at a political and even military level since by leaving prematurely you left many Kurdish bases intact and you put into jepardy the efforts of your army to better control the Kurds. On the other hand Turkey has never offered anything substantial to the Americans to be in a position to demand for certain priveleges in Northern Iraq

Diplomacy is to satisfy your powerful ally demanding something in return, if you dont it then we cannot talk about  a real and trustworthy alliance so your ally has no reason to satisfy your appetites against his interests, you will just be a third rate beggar begging for ofshets and help by somebody who does not even consider you a trustworthy ally humiliating yourself this way. and you will be forced to obey  orders when the pimp orders you because you have no other choice, you simply didnt follow the alternative which would be to become a trustworthy ally.

ODYSSEUS KILLING THE SUITORS

to put it in a different way my friend the fact that you didnt let the  Americans to use your soil in order to attack Iraq it does not display bravery but stupidity since of course the Americans could not force you to agree but you demonstrated yourselves as untrustworthy allies.

later on they punished you by forcing you to withdraw your troops from Northern Iraq in a humiliating way, if you really had the balls you would refuse in such a case (although it would be pointless and stupid if you ask me) something that of course you didnt do

Americans did not forget your betrayal and they punished you later on when you wanted to promote your interests in Northern Iraq using your military power, it would have been better for you if you had proved yourselves trustoworthy allies because your opinions would have a different gravity when you decided to invade Iraq later on

your generals understood this reality but your politicians and especially the public did not, they still remain hard core Muslims and idiots.

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good step..



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"ODYSSEUS
Turks let me make something clear for you if you still have the brains to understand, if you dont want to participate in joint exercises with Israelis just cancel your military alliance with them, as long as you have been allies to Israel it means that you accept their country and their actions as they are.the rest are insignificant displays of idiocy which have nothing to do with reality
Turks you need to decide either you want Israelies as your allies or not, as long as you keep your alliance with them intact you simply do not have the right to cancel joint air force drills or anything of the short with them.
"

That has to be the most retarded understanding of an alliance. An Alliance is one of mutual interest/need (i.e. NATO). Once it stops serving mutual interest/need its dead.

1. The Jewish Lobby in Washington prior to Davos had proven itself openly treacherous to Turkish interests.

2. With that finished and Turkey taking an about turn on jewish interest in the region. Israel quiet clearly needs Turkey more then the other way around. So the noose is around the Israeli's neck more then the other way around.

3. A form of an Alliance will and must be kept to ensure this noose remains. You don't want the jewish lobby to much roaming space overseas.


"you are a puppet state, you follow direct orders from United States it is not enough for you that you betrayed your own brothers Azeris in their war against Armenians but you signed a deal with them under the pressure of Hilari Clinton betraying their cause once again. Not to mention that you left Northern Iraq under the orders of the Americans, you are Turks and thats why you bow your head to the Americans asking for favors and offshets like a bitch who has been offering nothing else than her self,. the word dignity means nothing to your nation.
you are incompetent worthless scumbags allas to those who trust you and your likes."


1. The neutralisation of the Armenian and Kurdish issues are of great importance to weaken external enemies

2. AKP so far has been by far the most competent of all political parties to ever take power.

a) They've vastly expanded Turkish interest and influence in SE Europe
b) Increase such in Arabiya and in such cash strapped time Europe is in has proven a windfall.
Turkish Military/Construction etc penetrating further in this lucrative market.
c) Is starting to constrain the ability foreign agencies to apply pressure on Turkey (diplomatic & military)





"later on they punished you by forcing you to withdraw your troops from Northern Iraq in a humiliating way, if you really had the balls you would refuse in such a case (although it would be pointless and stupid if you ask me) something that of course you didnt do
Americans did not forget your betrayal and they punished you later on when you wanted to promote your interests in Northern Iraq using your military power, it would have been better for you if you had proved yourselves trustoworthy allies because your opinions would have a different gravity when you decided to invade Iraq later on
your generals understood this reality but your politicians and especially the public did not, they still remain hard core Muslims and idiots."

You're a monkey who doesn't know whats going on. The Turkey used the US military lobby (which has proven many times to be more powerful then the Israeli one)to stop the Jewish lobby dead in their tracts. The alliance is healthy as long as JSF and Patriots remain of the soon to be ordered list. As the Israeli's are also aware. Money Talks

onty again your definition of an ally is wrong. allies act in friendship only when there is mutual benefit in cases like Turkey and US the US is going to have a bigger benefit in the long run, that is unavoidable, for now. All Turkey can do is take as much as she can while giving as little as possible to curb the US influence and make it so it is in their interest to keep us around.

if you have an alliance and want the other party to do something that he doesn't want to do, you have to either offer an incentive or a threat or both. if the incentive or threat is not great enough, you have no deal. if america is doing something that is damaging to Turkey in anyway and Turkey has the ability to minimize this then it should, every time. if we are going to be used then they should also know that our services are not unconditional, there are lines not to be crossed.

we are all aware that this puts Turkey at risk and we may be viewed as "unreliable" in the eyes of the US. are you suggesting that the US is a reliable allie?

when the US REALLY needs us you can trust that the threat/incentive will be too great to refuse "reliability" wont be an issue.

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turkey should go ahead with the drill,with live ammo over israel!

i'll drink to that

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Cheers.

^ you rely hate jews dont you but what does this got to do with you greeks

. With that finished and Turkey taking an about turn on jewish interest in the region. Israel quiet clearly needs Turkey more then the other way around. So the noose is around the Israeli's neck more then the other way around.

yes sure they need you monkey because of your political support to their cause , they need you because you provide them with modern weapons and not the other way around , and they need you because you cancel joint drills with them

 

to the rest of the Turks, mutual interest means that you offer something too in an alliance , you have offered nothing important so far to Israelis so stop crying like little babies and either accept what you have been doing all those years or just go away, your so called alliances are opportunistic you only try to gain something giving nothing in return thats why you have been and you continue to be unreliable

lets move on now Mongol boys.

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this is more of a move by the kemalists not the akp , they were offended by the israeli generals remarks that turkey commtited genocide against armenians the israeli general also expressed support for greek cypriots this is what caused the recent tit for tit retaliation also america is beginning to turn slowly and cautiously against israel in a way not seen for a very long time if not EVER but obamas will is not anywhere near as strong as israels lobby and this must be remembered either way the current trends allow turkey to take a harsh stance not to mention that it is in turkish national interests NOT TO HAVE HOSTILITY FROM ARAB AND other muslim nations not least radical islamists inside turkey that are increasingly more likely to launch terrorist attacks inside turkey and unlike the pkk who's aims are rejected by most people al qaida's aim of getting turkey to end co-operation with israel is shared by most of turkeys muslims even secular human rights groups in short israels relationship with turkey signed in 1996 is seen now by the same kemalists that signed it as being seriously against turkeys national interests after all does turkey want to be seen as being more pro israel than AMERICA **** no its against any kind of stability the nation needs china, russia ,america and elsewhere is where they can go for weapons and military excersizes israel is expendable and harmfull for turkish interests and so has been ditched by the TSK turk silahli kuvetleri (TURKISH ARMED FORCES)

no my friend Israel is anything but expendible for Turkish interests. Yes Turkey's economic clout and her prospering relations with her neighbours is increasingly putting strain on TR's ties with Israel but this is not to say that there is not room left to adjust sideways...

TR's influence and perhaps closer than ever ties with the region and its leading role in bilateral diplomacy renders peaceful alternatives to Israel's hardliners...

"yes sure they need you monkey because of your political support to their cause , they need you because you provide them with modern weapons and not the other way around , and they need you because you cancel joint drills with them
to the rest of the Turks, mutual interest means that you offer something too in an alliance , you have offered nothing important so far to Israelis so stop crying like little babies and either accept what you have been doing all those years or just go away, your so called alliances are opportunistic you only try to gain something giving nothing in return thats why you have been and you continue to be unreliable

lets move on now Mongol boys."


Dear Clown

Mutual interest Monkey. Do you want a lesson



"Turkey and Israel have signed a deal to allow Israel to purchase 50 million cubic meters of Turkish water annually over the next ten years. The water will come from the Manavgat River and will be transported to Israel's Askhelon port by ships. This deal will also help Israel supply water to Jordan, as it has pledged to do under its peace treaty. Israel usually needs around two billion cubic meters of water annually and the Turkish water should supply five percent of its needs. "

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Politics/turkwater.html




"Turkey and Israel have tentatively agreed on building a network of pipelines to ship oil, natural gas and water from Turkey to Israel,the The Turkish Energy Ministry said Tuesday.

Under the project, a pipeline already carrying Russian natural gas to Turkey will be extended to deliver supplies to Israel, the ministry said. The deal was reached earlier this month during a visit to Israel by Energy Minister Hilmi Guler, the ministry said.

It was not clear when the deal would be finalized or when construction would begin."

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/814191.html

idiot, you are talking about energy deals

what i said is that your alliance offered nothing to Israel at a military level now go to eat your banana monkey

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and I told you

"That has to be the most retarded understanding of an alliance. An Alliance is one of mutual interest/need (i.e. NATO). Once it stops serving mutual interest/need its dead."

The Alliance of Turkey and ISrael went beyond military to political lobbying and resources supplies. Intelligent people like yourself shouldn't ponder so hard on these issues.

We will work it out as soon as the AKP is voted out .

and I told you

"That has to be the most retarded understanding of an alliance. An Alliance is one of mutual interest/need (i.e. NATO). Once it stops serving mutual interest/need its dead."

The Alliance of Turkey and ISrael went beyond military to political lobbying and resources supplies. Intelligent people like yourself shouldn't ponder so hard on these issues.

who was talking to you idiot in the first place? since you like to interfere to conversations why dont you tell me what military and political support you have been offering to Israel ? what was the benefit for having a supposed ally like Turkey you always have been supportive to Muslims

now leave us alone vlaka e vlaka, paliokoumpouri skatomousoulmane

ODYSSEUS KILLING THE SUITORS

"who was talking to you idiot in the first place? since you like to interfere to conversations why dont you tell me what military and political support you have been offering to Israel ? what was the benefit for having a supposed ally like Turkey you always have been supportive to Muslims

now leave us alone vlaka e vlaka, paliokoumpouri skatomousoulmane


1. This is a military forum. If you don't like discussing your views. Don't post. It open season on everyone's views including mine.

"ou tell me what military and political support you have been offering to Israel ?what was the benefit for having a supposed ally like Turkey you always have been supportive to Muslims"

2. Already addressed in the above post.

3. Lets return to your comments.