The new state did not attach itself to its immediate past, as it had been preserved in the popular memory, but rather adapted itself to the popular image of the ancient Greek past already created in the West. Otto's father, King Ludwig I of Bavaria, was obsessed with ancient Greece and brought up his children with the aspiration that one day one of them would reign over this glorious land(1).
The German obsession with the ancient Hellene city-states all began in the 18th century and began to trickle through socialite circles and educational systems. Eventually this new cult of personality would take affect in the new land mass that would become known as Greece in 1821. In other words the Germans in effect created modern Greece and the modern Greeks on Romantic German aryanist philology(2). It's the same Aryanism that Martin Bernal questioned in 1987 in which public passions were aroused by modern Greeks and scholars from around the world(3).
Writer Nikos Dimou states the following in a recent NY Times interview;
Its the fault of a German, Mr. Dimou said about Greek pride in this cause. He was referring to Johann Winckelmann, the 18th-century German art historian whose vision of an ancient Greece populated by beautiful, tall, blond, wise people, representing perfection, as Mr. Dimou put it, was in a sense imposed on the country to shape modern Greek identity.(4)
He also goes on to say;
We used to speak Albanian and call ourselves Romans, but then Winckelmann, Goethe, Victor Hugo, Delacroix, they all told us, No, you are Hellenes, direct descendants of Plato and Socrates, and that did it. If a small, poor nation has such a burden put on its shoulders, it will never recover.(5)
What eventually led to the wide-spread phenomenon of these Aryanist values was through the Science of Antiquity a school where the study of classical civilization forged the discipline of the fictional Hellenic model. Scholar Stathis Gourgouris wrote the following in his book Dream Nation;
In practical terms, however, the historical absurdity of declaring Hellenic civilization the expression of a culture uncontaminated by foreign elements can be explained by a simple fact that usually tends to be disregarded-namely, that Hellenic civilization as we know itwas in fact the invention of the "Science of Antiquity", of classics. As such it could have been (and was) endowed with whatever signification the discipline found useful.(6)
With western help modern Greece won its independence and was put under Bavarian monarchical rule under the newly crowned King Of Greece, King Otto.
If we go back in time to a place called Athens before it was made into the new German made kingdom what would we find hanging around the ruins? According to Edmond About close to the mid-nineteenth century "Athens, twenty five years ago, was only an Albanian village" and that "Athens has been rapidly peopled with men of all kinds of nations". He also goes on to say; "The Turkish village which formerly clustered round the base of the acropolis has not disappeared; it forms a whole quarter of the town....an immense majority of the population of this quarter is composed of Albanians.(7)
Eventually the new Bavarian monarchy would remedy this situation in not just Athens but all of German made modern Greece. The Albanians of Athens and whatever else the other rabble of races were did not fit the mold of what Wincklemann's fantasy manifested in Germany and Western Europe. In 1834, it was decided to make Athens the new capital of the Kingdom of Otto's Greece. A German architect, Schaubert, was employed to create wide streets, the squares the boulevards: and so Athens, which in 1834 was a village of 5000 inhabitants had become in 1936 a city of over four hundred and fifty thousand(8). In essence we see that Germans literally created Modern Greece from the ground up. But Athens was only one area. What about Sparta?
According to our source, Edmond About, "New Sparta is a creation of King Otto, who has formed the useless project of rescusitating all the great names of Greece."(9) Of course Sparta was at one time not only an Albanian stronghold but a major settlement for the Slavic tribes that entered the balkans in the 6th century AD. Traveller Peter Edmund Laurent made his way through SlavoSparta before the war for independence broke out. He said; "From their manners, their features, and the names of many of the neighboring places, I should be tempted to regard them as proceeding from Sclavonian blood:many travellers pretend, however, to have discovered in these barbarous hordes traces of a Spartan origin.(10).
We can see why King Otto wanted to create New Sparta. Because Slavo-Sparta did not fit the Aryan German Hellenic ideal with all its Slavic name places and uncouth manners.
But re-creating a dead ancient civilization from the ground up was not the only task King Otto had in mind. The Bavarian masters had the church of Greece declared independent from the ecumenical church of Constantinople. The newly found church of Greece was from the beginning a prisoner of the autocratic, Bavarian ruled Greek state(11).
According to historian William St.Claire German Made Greece "was essentially a Bavarian colony. (That Greece Might Still Be Free)
....to be continued
1-Discourses of Collective Identity in Central and Southeast Europe (1770-1945) Volume II, page 308, written by Mary Kitroeff, edited by Balazs Trencsenyi and Michael Kopecek
2 & 3-Cultural Intimacy: Social poetics in the nation-state, pages 106-07, by Michael Herzfeld
4 & 5- Elgin Marble Argument in a New Light By MICHAEL KIMMELMAN Published: June 23, 2009 NY Times -http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/24/arts/ ... q=Albanian Marbles&st=cse&scp=1
6- Dream Nation, page 134, by Stathis Gourgouris
7- Greece and the Greeks of today, pages 32 and 160, by Edmond About
8- In the Steps of St.Paul, page 304, by H.V. Morton
9- Greece and the Greeks of today, pages 21-22, by Edmond About
10- Recollections of a Classical tour, page 182, by Peter Edmund Laurent
"It's enough for the Greeks to mimic the Germans to regain what they once had." Ludwig Von Maurer, Das griechische Volk(1834).
Last we left off reading about the affect that the Germans had on German Made Greece. From Kingship to even Flagship todays Neo-Hellene is the ultimate creation of what their German masters would have them be. Not to take away from the superstar of the nineteenth century Lord Byron, who catapulted the cause for their war for independence, but the Germans had him beat by a full century. They even went so far as to put Hellas into production before Greece existed as such(1). According to scholar Stathis Gourgouris "The force of this cultural pre-construction in Greece cannot be underestimated, considering especially that the sociopolitical conditions prevailing at the end of the War of Independence point to an irreducible social and cultural discontinuity, to a zero point in the operation of those significations that were conceivably to propel and uphold the images of a new national identity.....Thus, the recourse of the new image of Hellas(both as cultural construct and as social system) began immediately upon the brief rule of Governor Kapodistrias and became efficiently implemented with the takeover of the Bavarian monarchy and its explicit desire for centralization and Hellenization. In fact, the cultural image of a modern Greece was put into production with much greater urgency than was a political-economic infrastructure, despite the obvious importance of the latter in a newly constituted State."(2)
German manufacturing was in full effect before the inhabitants of modern Greece even knew who Zeus was. What happened in Greece was the invention of a myth of nationality that provided, at the deepest level, a metaphysical rationale for life and death: a meaning for what would otherwise be our futile, meaningless existence. No matter if the myth took various forms, for any myth is always the sum of its many variations.(3)
The seeds were planted and German production plants were popping up everywhere in German Made Greece. The University of Athens (1837-) was the first institution of higher learning in the new Kingdom and was founded by King Otto on the German model(4). A Bavarian even ensured that Otto's kingdom would come supplied with excellent lager beer available to all newly made Greeks-its originator's name Fuchs having been Hellenized to Fix which is available today in Modern Greece(5).http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU9IA_k0LnM
But we are missing the most important aspect of German manufacturing in modern Greece....the German made term 'Hellenism'. Hellenism, which was a term created by the German Johan Gustav Droysen, was the vehicle for expansionism spinning the wheels of the Megal Idea. The nationalist pseudo historian of the time was Constantinos Paparrigopoulos who was trying to put together the myth of an unbroken cultural descendency from ancient Hellas to German Made modern Greece. Unfortunately he faced much criticism from a German , believe it or not, named Jakob Phillip Fallmerayer. Fallmerayer charged that the modern Greeks were not the descendents of the dead ancient race of Hellenes. In his opinion, and rightfully so, the modern inhabitants of Greece were a conglomeration of Slavs and Albanians and whatever else settled in the Balkans. Paparrigopoulos had to not only prove the megali idea valid, but he also had to prove Fallmerayer wrong. He could not connect the pieces however.
In his works previous the 1850's ancient Macedonia was a distinct nation not related to the ancient Hellene city-states-'the Macedonian nation accomplished, in the general history [of civilization], a different mission from that of the Hellenic nation'(6).
Paparrigopoulos was at a cross roads. He could not figure out how to by-pass the time of Philip of Macedon and Alexander the Great as well as the Roman empire and the East Roman empire (Byzantine empire) to modern times. Droysen ultimately gave Paparrigopolous supposed weighty arguements that the ancient Macedonians were actually ancient Hellenes who supposedly spread Hellenic culture eastward with the reign of Alexander the Great. Droysen inspired in Paparrigopoulos a refined understanding and use of the theroretical principles of German historicism(7). Through Johan Gustav Droysen the pseudo historian Paparrigopoulos invented the fallacious term "Macedonian Hellenism" and put the pieces together of an unbroken mythological culture that stretched back from millenia's to modern times. And there we have it. Germans inventing everything neo-hellenic for the neo-hellenes.
But we are not finished here. There are many more things to bring up about German Made Greece like their Flag, their early German law system, German made libraries, German centralized police,etc. All this modernization and the Germans still had to drag the Greeks, screaming, into the nineteenth century(8). There is so much more to expose yet you the reader would end up reading a book instead of a 5 minute synopsis.
However I will give one more myth a bit of exposure because what I've left out of this equation that blends into the myth of continuation (German made Hellenism) is the one myth a modern Greek is taught since birth. That they are ancestors of the dead race of ancient Hellenes because they speak the same language (another false conception because the languages of ancient and modern are not identical).
Historian Andrew Baruch Wachtel gives an explanation on where this sort of thinking originated;
"In the Balkans...nations were created first, thanks to the hard work of a handful of European-oriented men; states for these nations came later. The model for Balkan nation builders therefore was not France, but rather Germany, where intellectuals carefully nurtured a sense of national consciousness well before the existence of a unified state. On the German model, the primary definition of a nation was linguistic: a nation was a nation (and could, therefore, hope for an independent political existence in the form of a state) insofar as its citizens spoke a common language. Although Balkan intellectuals and linguists tended to claim that a given language had already existed from time immemorial and thereby provided the necessary glue for a nation, this was generally not the case.Each putative language was in fact comprised of multiple dialects of equally ill-defined neighboring languages. Because the vernacular had been used for limited purposes since the Ottoman invasion, much work had to be done to transform these languages into vehicles suitable for a full range of modern administrative, commercial, and cultural purposes."(9)
And Wachtel gives us a perfect example of how the modern Greeks utilized this German linguistic nation building process by explaining the work of one Grigorios Zalikoglou (most likely a Vlach) who goes on to write that their language is the same as the language of the ancient Hellenes. Wachtel writes;
"Zalikoglou insists that modern and ancient Greek are the same language, though as the writer of a grammar he must have recognized that there are enormous differences between them. But because he needed linguistic continuity to buttress his claims for the historical continuity of the Greek nation, he overlooked this fact. Although he uses the language of race ('blood descendents'), he excludes anyone who does. Finally, language trumps any other potential marker of national identity - thus a Muslim would be considered Greek if he speaks the language, but a Turkish-speaking Orthodox Christian would not be, even if he could prove direct descent from Plato."(10)
Of course the rules changed later on with the Vlach Rigas Velenstinlis who asserted that any Orthodox Christian was a Greek.
From what we now know we can see the true nature of German Made Greece and how they ultimately manufactured newly assembled ethnic Greeks before a state of Greece was even created.
"Greece is the most artificial of all artificial nations that resulted from the dissolution of the Ottoman empire." Yerasimos Kaklamanis (Analysis of Neohellenic Bourgeois Ideology,page 13).
Sources
1,2- Dream Nation by Stathis Gourgouris pages 86-87.
3- Inventing Greece by David Bien; Journal of Modern Greek Studies - Volume 23, Number 2, October 2005, pp. 217-234
4- Greece The Modern Sequel form 1821-Present by John S. Koliopoulos and Thanos M. Veremis page 164
5- The Greek Passion, by Kenneth Young page 159
6,7- European historiographical influences upon the young Konstantinos Paparrigopolous,by Ioannis Koubourlis; The Making of Modern Greece, Edited By Roderick Beaton, David Ricks pages 59-60.
8- The Greek Passion, by Kenneth Young pages 158-159.
9,10- The Balkans in World History, by Andrew Baruch Wachtel pages 77-78.
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"Zalikoglou insists that modern and ancient Greek are the same language, though as the writer of a grammar he must have recognized that there are enormous differences between them. But because he needed linguistic continuity to buttress his claims for the historical continuity of the Greek nation, he overlooked this fact. Although he uses the language of race ('blood descendents'), he excludes anyone who does. Finally, language trumps any other potential marker of national identity - thus a Muslim would be considered Greek if he speaks the language, but a Turkish-speaking Orthodox Christian would not be, even if he could prove direct descent from Plato."(10)
"Greece is the most artificial of all artificial nations that resulted from the dissolution of the Ottoman empire." Yerasimos Kaklamanis (Analysis of Neohellenic Bourgeois Ideology,page 13).
This says it all
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"There is a general, but not unchallenged, consensus that the Renaissance began in Florence, Tuscany in the 14th century.[4] Various theories have been proposed to account for its origins and characteristics, focusing on a variety of factors including the social and civic peculiarities of Florence at the time; its political structure; the patronage of its dominant family, the Medici;[5] and the migration of Greek scholars and texts to Italy following the Fall of Constantinople at the hands of the Ottoman Turks.[6][7][8]"
You guys should not mix ancient Greeks with today's Grecomans in artificial Greece. The ancient Greeks used to be courageous people with honour, thus I respect them a lot. As Aristotle (a true Greek) used to say:
"You will never do anything in this world without courage. It is the greatest quality of the mind next to honour."
And look at you now, you have neither courage nor honour. The first thing your newly elected PM does; is to come to Turkey begging us not to rape your airspace. Where is courage or honour in this? Where is being Greek in this? Please do enlighten me.
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Demir ur not a Turk ur a Slav so spare us your comments.I mean u ever looked urshelf in the mirror?
Why don`t u go back to Bulgaria or Fyrom?U have nothing to do with Turkey.
Convert Demir is quoting Maknews, a FYROM source.
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German wannabe Grecoman, do you not read?
Sources
1,2- Dream Nation by Stathis Gourgouris pages 86-87.
3- Inventing Greece by David Bien; Journal of Modern Greek Studies - Volume 23, Number 2, October 2005, pp. 217-234
4- Greece The Modern Sequel form 1821-Present by John S. Koliopoulos and Thanos M. Veremis page 164
5- The Greek Passion, by Kenneth Young page 159
6,7- European historiographical influences upon the young Konstantinos Paparrigopolous,by Ioannis Koubourlis; The Making of Modern Greece, Edited By Roderick Beaton, David Ricks pages 59-60.
8- The Greek Passion, by Kenneth Young pages 158-159.
9,10- The Balkans in World History, by Andrew Baruch Wachtel pages 77-78.
I particularly liked this quote, ironically by a Grik:
"Greece is the most artificial of all artificial nations that resulted from the dissolution of the Ottoman empire."
Yerasimos Kaklamanis (Analysis of Neohellenic Bourgeois Ideology,page 13).
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I'm sorry to disappoint you, Herr Goebel, but the PKK is a terrorist organization recognised globally as one, on the other hand, the so-called "FYROM" is a country recognised by 125 countries by its constitutional name, Republic of MACEDONIA.
So I rather take a proper country source..
Besides you must be happy, I recall you "love" Germans
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Demir, your propaganda is identical to the Arab one against Israel. The very same arguments are quoted by Arab "experts" to demonstrate their "faith" that modern Israelis have nothing to do with the Biblical Jewish and the jewish tradition. Of course, they dont explain how the jewish tradition was kept alive abroad b4 the creation of Israel. Anyway, we are used to such kind of "accomodation" by our neighbours. After all, it is Turkey which suffer from a huge ID crisis. Certainly not us...
today greece people have ultra low biologic connection with old hellenes which were great and succesfull nation contrary current failed people gayreeks.
You idiot, read Kolokotronis' own autobiography. He refers to Byzantine Greece, not Ancient Greece. He makes references to the Byzantine Emperor and the fall of Constantinople. Not Western European ideas of Greece. The Megali Idea that influenced Greek foreign policy for so long was the goal of reestablishing the Byzantine Empire, not the Hellenistic successor kingdoms. The language that was preserved for centuries against Ottoman oppression was Greek, not Albanian.
Western Europeans were enemies of the Byzantine Empire. The Greece they knew was Ancient Greece. So why would the people of this country they supposedly "made up", who supposedly had no identity, want to recreate Byzantium?
How can you say the king of Bavaria wanted his son to become king of Greece even before the Revolution, when as part of the Concert of Europe he would have opposed all revolutions?
Dumbass, I think Kolokotronis and the actions and goals of the Greek people who took part in the War of Independence and were there in the early days of modern Greece, would be a more accurate source than some FYROM website.
Εις τον τόπο τούτο, οπού εγώ πατώ σήμερα, επατούσαν και εδημηγορούσαν τον παλαιό καιρό άνδρες σοφοί, και άνδρες με τους οποίους δεν είμαι άξιος να συγκριθώ και ούτε να φθάσω τα ίχνη των. Εγώ επιθυμούσα να σας ιδώ, παιδιά μου, εις την μεγάλη δόξα των προπατόρων μας, και έρχομαι να σας ειπώ, όσα εις τον καιρό του αγώνος και προ αυτού και ύστερα απ' αυτόν ο ίδιος επαρατήρησα, και απ' αυτά να κάμωμε συμπερασμούς και δια την μέλλουσαν ευτυχίαν σας, μολονότι ο Θεός μόνος ηξεύρει τα μέλλοντα. Και δια τους παλαιούς Έλληνας, οποίας γνώσεις είχαν και ποία δόξα και τιμήν έχαιραν κοντά εις τα άλλα έθνη του καιρού των, οποίους ήρωας, στρατηγούς, πολιτικούς είχαν, δια ταύτα σας λέγουν καθ' ημέραν οι διδάσκαλοί σας και οι πεπαιδευμένοι μας. Εγώ δεν είμαι αρκετός. Σας λέγω μόνον πως ήταν σοφοί, και από εδώ επήραν και εδανείσθησαν τα άλλα έθνη την σοφίαν των.
Εις τον τόπον, τον οποίον κατοικούμε, εκατοικούσαν οι παλαιοί Έλληνες, από τους οποίους και ημείς καταγόμεθα και ελάβαμε το όνομα τούτο. Αυτοί διέφεραν από ημάς εις την θρησκείαν, διότι επροσκυνούσαν τες πέτρες και τα ξύλα. Αφού ύστερα ήλθε στον κόσμο ο Χριστός, οι λαοί όλοι επίστευσαν εις το Ευαγγέλιό του, και έπαυσαν να λατρεύουν τα είδωλα. Δεν επήρε μαζί του ούτε σοφούς ούτε προκομμένους, αλλ' απλούς ανθρώπους, χωρικούς καί ψαράδες, και με τη βοήθεια του Αγίου Πνεύματος έμαθαν όλες τες γλώσσες του κόσμου, οι οποίοι, μολονότι όπου και αν έβρισκαν εναντιότητες και οι βασιλείς και οι τύραννοι τους κατέτρεχαν, δεν ημπόρεσε κανένας να τους κάμη τίποτα. Αυτοί εστερέωσαν την πίστιν.
Οι παλαιοί Έλληνες, οι πρόγονοί μας, έπεσαν εις την διχόνοια και ετρώγονταν μεταξύ τους, και έτσι έλαβαν καιρό πρώτα οι Ρωμαίοι, έπειτα άλλοι βάρβαροι καί τους υπόταξαν. Ύστερα ήλθαν οι Μουσουλμάνοι και έκαμαν ό,τι ημπορούσαν, δια να αλλάξη ο λαός την πίστιν του. Έκοψαν γλώσσες εις πολλούς ανθρώπους, αλλ' εστάθη αδύνατο να το κατορθώσουν. Τον ένα έκοπταν, ο άλλος το σταυρό του έκαμε. Σαν είδε τούτο ο σουλτάνος, διόρισε ένα βιτσερέ [αντιβασιλέα], έναν πατριάρχη, καί του έδωσε την εξουσία της εκκλησίας. Αυτός και ο λοιπός κλήρος έκαμαν ό,τι τους έλεγε ο σουλτάνος. Ύστερον έγιναν οι κοτζαμπάσηδες [προεστοί] εις όλα τα μέρη. Η τρίτη τάξη, οι έμποροι και οι προκομμένοι, το καλύτερο μέρος των πολιτών, μην υποφέρνοντες τον ζυγό έφευγαν, και οι γραμματισμένοι επήραν και έφευγαν από την Ελλάδα, την πατρίδα των, και έτσι ο λαός, όστις στερημένος από τα μέσα της προκοπής, εκατήντησεν εις αθλίαν κατάσταση, και αυτή αύξαινε κάθε ήμερα χειρότερα διότι, αν ευρίσκετο μεταξύ του λαού κανείς με ολίγην μάθηση, τον ελάμβανε ο κλήρος, όστις έχαιρε προνόμια, ή εσύρετο από τον έμπορο της Ευρώπης ως βοηθός του ή εγίνετο γραμματικός του προεστού. Και μερικοί μην υποφέροντες την τυραννίαν του Τούρκου και βλέποντας τες δόξες και τες ηδονές οπού ανελάμβαναν αυτοί, άφηναν την πίστη τους και εγίνοντο Μουσουλμάνοι. Καί τοιουτοτρόπως κάθε ήμερα ο λαός ελίγνευε καί επτώχαινε.
Εις αυτήν την δυστυχισμένη κατάσταση μερικοί από τους φυγάδες γραμματισμένους εμετάφραζαν και έστελναν εις την Ελλάδα βιβλία, και εις αυτούς πρέπει να χρωστούμε ευγνωμοσύνη, διότι ευθύς οπού κανένας άνθρωπος από το λαό εμάνθανε τα κοινά γράμματα, εδιάβαζεν αυτά τα βιβλία και έβλεπε ποίους είχαμε προγόνους, τι έκαμεν ο Θεμιστοκλής, ο Αριστείδης και άλλοι πολλοί παλαιοί μας, και εβλέπαμε και εις ποίαν κατάσταση ευρισκόμεθα τότε. Όθεν μας ήλθεν εις το νου να τους μιμηθούμε και να γίνουμε ευτυχέστεροι. Και έτσι έγινε και επροόδευσεν η Εταιρεία.
Όταν αποφασίσαμε να κάμωμε την Επανάσταση, δεν εσυλλογισθήκαμε ούτε πόσοι είμεθα ούτε πως δεν έχομε άρματα ούτε ότι οι Τούρκοι εβαστούσαν τα κάστρα και τας πόλεις ούτε κανένας φρόνιμος μας είπε «πού πάτε εδώ να πολεμήσετε με σιταροκάραβα βατσέλα», αλλά ως μία βροχή έπεσε εις όλους μας η επιθυμία της ελευθερίας μας, και όλοι, και ο κλήρος μας και οι προεστοί και οι καπεταναίοι και οι πεπαιδευμένοι και οι έμποροι, μικροί και μεγάλοι, όλοι εσυμφωνήσαμε εις αυτό το σκοπό και εκάμαμε την Επανάσταση.
Εις τον πρώτο χρόνο της Επαναστάσεως είχαμε μεγάλη ομόνοια και όλοι ετρέχαμε σύμφωνοι. Ο ένας επήγεν εις τον πόλεμο, ο αδελφός του έφερνε ξύλα, η γυναίκα του εζύμωνε, το παιδί του εκουβαλούσε ψωμί και μπαρουτόβολα εις το στρατόπεδον και εάν αυτή η ομόνοια εβαστούσε ακόμη δύο χρόνους, ηθέλαμε κυριεύσει και την Θεσσαλία και την Μακεδονία, και ίσως εφθάναμε και έως την Κωνσταντινούπολη. Τόσον τρομάξαμε τους Τούρκους, οπού άκουγαν Έλληνα και έφευγαν χίλια μίλια μακρά. Εκατόν Έλληνες έβαζαν πέντε χιλιάδες εμπρός, και ένα καράβι μιαν άρμάδα...
Εγώ, παιδιά μου, κατά κακή μου τύχη, εξ αιτίας των περιστάσεων, έμεινα αγράμματος και δια τούτο σας ζητώ συγχώρηση, διότι δεν ομιλώ καθώς οι δάσκαλοι σας. Σας είπα όσα ο ίδιος είδα, ήκουσα και εγνώρισα, δια να ωφεληθήτε από τα απερασμένα και από τα κακά αποτελέσματα της διχονοίας, την οποίαν να αποστρέφεσθε, και να έχετε ομόνοια. Εμάς μη μας τηράτε πλέον. Το έργο μας και ο καιρός μας επέρασε. Και αι ημέραι της γενεάς, η οποία σας άνοιξε το δρόμο, θέλουν μετ' ολίγον περάσει. Την ημέρα της ζωής μας θέλει διαδεχθή η νύκτα του θανάτου μας, καθώς την ημέραν των Αγίων Ασωμάτων θέλει διαδεχθή η νύκτα και η αυριανή ήμερα. Εις εσάς μένει να ισάσετε και να στολίσετε τον τόπο, οπού ημείς ελευθερώσαμε και, δια να γίνη τούτο, πρέπει να έχετε ως θεμέλια της πολιτείας την ομόνοια, την θρησκεία, την καλλιέργεια του Θρόνου και την φρόνιμον ελευθερία.
Τελειώνω το λόγο μου.
Ζήτω ο Βασιλεύς μας Όθων! Ζήτω οι σοφοί διδάσκαλοι! Ζήτω η Ελληνική Νεολαία!
i would still rather be a fake greek than a real turko.
besides, it's the 21st century and we live in an era of universal civilization. traditional national cultures are eroded ever faster by market forces that dictate a set of global cultural norms. thats why your retarded laws about 'insulting turkishness' and such will soon be abandoned. look around you. in any modern society people will be wearing similar clothes, driving similar cars, obtaining food and retail items in the same way, participating in globalized mechanisms of finance, etc...
national cultures carry on as a strange mix of aesthetic veneer and innermost identity, but the CORE has been rotted out of all of them. they are no longer truly living.
fundamentally, all identities are constructs. the 'turkish' one is a particularly flimsy and worthless one. you are the remains of a backwards polyglot empire that imploded after centuries of fetid and unproductive existence. you were pulled together by a charismatic fascist in the 20th century who presented you with a ready identity and YOU ARE STILL WORSHIPPING HIM IN 2009.
"fundamentally, all identities are constructs. the 'turkish' one is a particularly flimsy and worthless one. you are the remains of a backwards polyglot empire that imploded after centuries of fetid and unproductive existence. you were pulled together by a charismatic fascist in the 20th century who presented you with a ready identity and YOU ARE STILL WORSHIPPING HIM IN 2009."
Hahaha If it was possible to give rep on this forum, that would totally earn it. lol
Demir ur not a Turk ur a Slav so spare us your comments.I mean u ever looked urshelf in the mirror?
Why don`t u go back to Bulgaria or Fyrom?U have nothing to do with Turkey.
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