Tuesday, October 20, 2009
ISTANBUL - Daily News with wires





Out of the 34 suspected PKK terrorists who surrendered Monday to security forces at the Habur Border gate, 29 were released, reported Anatolia News Agency.

The remaining five suspects are subject to further interrogation. Among those remaining in custody are three militants from the outlawed Kurdistan Workers' Party, or PKK, which has engaged in acts of terrorism in Turkeys Southeast since 1984.

A prosecutor demanded the five be formally charged with unspecified crimes committed in the past and a judge was to make a decision later Tuesday, according to Agence-France Presse.

The Kurdish peace group entered Turkey in support of the governments resolve to present a peaceful solution to the Kurdish conflict. Terrorists "returning home" from the mountains is a phase of the democratic move implemented by the Turkish government, Interior Minister Beºir Atalay said Tuesday in Ankara according to Anatolia News Agency. The individuals in the mountains know that it is a dead-end street, Atalay said.

The government anticipates another 150 terrorists, mostly from Mahmur refugee camp, to surrender to Turkish security forces in small groups in the initial stages, Atalay said. He also indicated, the democratic move would face difficulties, if weapons are not given up, terror does not end and violence continues, reported Anatolia News Agency.

Most of Mondays peace group came from Mahmur, a U.N.-run refugee camp in the north of Iraq, the remaining eight descended from the Kandil Mountains, where the terrorist organization PKK has a training camp

Two groups of PKK members came to Turkey in 1999 on a similar peace mission, but they were arrested and then jailed for belonging to the PKK.


http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=1020095350648-2009-10-20



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"Freedom and independence is my character."
~M. Kemal Ataturk

1999 yılında da Öcalanın yaptığı çağrıya uyan 8 PKKlı teslim olmuştu. Ancak o zaman koşullar çok daha farklıydı. PKKlılar yürüyerek geldi, silahları omuzlarındaydı. Dünkü gibi törenle karşılanmadılar, hemen Vana götürülüp tutuklandılar ve 5 yıl hapis yattılar

10 yıl SONRA

Lüks ciplerle geldiler

SİLAHLARINI BIRAKTILAR...



http://w9.gazetevatan.com/PKKlilar_Turkiyeye_giris_yapti/265645/1/Gundem



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"Freedom and independence is my character."
~M. Kemal Ataturk

its rely easy to portary a cemat to a meating that is s1ck how the media labels something

We have to face it, we've lost the war on terror and AKP government hoses the white flag of surrender.

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Turkiye Turklerindir (Mustafa Kemal Ataturk)
Power is the ultimate afrodisiak (Henry kissinger)

they have dropped there weapons what more can you people want

i heard 8 members are in trial the wrest that were released which were kids who do not no what the hell were they doing or what were they fighting for and here are the kurdish demands

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the ending of military and security operations
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constitutional guarantees for Kurdish identity
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Kurdish education
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recognition of the Kurdish language
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ability to live freely within Kurdish culture
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democratic politics
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ability to live in security
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a new civilian constitution"

it says no kurdistan here

All of the PKK members released. AKP has outdone herself, broken all records of vatan hainligi.



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Turkiye Turklerindir (Mustafa Kemal Ataturk)
Power is the ultimate afrodisiak (Henry kissinger)

atleast the PKK cvnts in Paris are getting the shvt beaten out of them..

http://www.kanaldhaber.com.tr/haberdetay.aspx?haberid=53180&catid=33

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On 12 June 1992, a Greek Mirage F-1C crashed during a dogfight with a Turkish F-16 piloted by Capt. Ilhan Filiz.

On 8 October 1996, a Greek Mirage-2000 piloted by Thanos Grivas shot down a Turkish F-16D with a Magic IR missile.

Just two days after that murder, on 10 October 1996 a Greek Mirage-2000 crashed close to Semadirek island after a dogfight with two Turkish F-16s.

Point of the story is: TUAF saved itself two missiles.

You turks always react out of emotions and you never hold your feelings a little so you can THINK! AKP has done the best for the unity of turkey than any other government has done before. The first impression is that AKP is soft on PKK but what is the bigger picture? The government has done big steps on reaching a large part of your society who was neglected for decades! Why was the PKK born? Was it maybe because a stubborn fascist general from Ankara with his gavur ex greek converts from the western coast wanted to impose their atheistic ideals and nationalistic ideologies over the multi ethnic groups of Asia Minor?

AKP has succeeded in cooling down the kurdish anger and the "second class citizenship" imposed to them by the previous governments. They can become active members of the new turkish society which is currently evolving. The multiculturalism will prevail over turkish centro-ethnicity. The most amazing thing is that all you people will be alive to see it happening before your eyes!

98th Medical Battalion taking positions for combat!

Turkish nation must see the realites ..

It seems hate of Great Turkish may wake up soon for inner enemies which tasted by armos gayreeks in the past.

bark dogs bark ...

"It seems hate of Great Turkish may wake up soon for inner enemies which tasted by armos gayreeks in the past. "


In the past the Kurds were your allies to exterminate the Greeks and Armenians. Now that they are your enemies i'd like to see what you will do...

98th Medical Battalion taking positions for combat!

"In the past the Kurds were your allies to exterminate the Greeks and Armenians. Now that they are your enemies i'd like to see what you will do..."

true..

this was the reason for not behaved them like behaved you ..

korts did a selection and every chocice has an own pay...

majority of Turks dont accept korts as brother anymore..

brotherhood is over ..

i have no time for leftist scum like the pkk **** EM

In the past the Kurds were your allies to exterminate the Greeks and Armenians. Now that they are your enemies i'd like to see what you will do...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

Three guesses...

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I don't like the situation akp has put us in with the pkk but at the same time they couldn't of exactly offered peace and then give everyone that turns themselves in life sentences, not exactly the best way to encourage the rest to surrender.

I have mixed feelings about it, it is a slap in the face to those who have given their lives for what they thought was the interests of their country and their families.

at the same time it will help to stop more Turks from dying... in this war anyway.

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Freedom is never free.

if they have killed any one they would not have surrenderd because they did have to face trial

Re Sfakan,

You turks always react out of emotions and you never hold your feelings a little so you can THINK! AKP has done the best for the unity of turkey than any other government has done before. The first impression is that AKP is soft on PKK but what is the bigger picture? The government has done big steps on reaching a large part of your society who was neglected for decades! Why was the PKK born? Was it maybe because a stubborn fascist general from Ankara with his gavur ex greek converts from the western coast wanted to impose their atheistic ideals and nationalistic ideologies over the multi ethnic groups of Asia Minor?

AKP has succeeded in cooling down the kurdish anger and the "second class citizenship" imposed to them by the previous governments. They can become active members of the new turkish society which is currently evolving. The multiculturalism will prevail over turkish centro-ethnicity. The most amazing thing is that all you people will be alive to see it happening before your eyes!
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I know you don't give a chit about Kurds nor you know the real situation. But let me react on a few things you wrote:
- "The government has done big steps on reaching a large part of your society who was neglected for decades!"
Neglected in which way? Kurds and Turks have exactly the same rights in the constitution, not an iota of difference! We have had much earlier a Kurd as president than the US having a black. We never had apartheid, we never had separation of black and white (Kurd or Turk).
We can argue that there could be minor things like Kurdish language at schools etc. but whas that a reason to chose the path of terorism?


No! But Kurds as traitors as they are want apartheid, so I say we should give them apartheid!

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Turkiye Turklerindir (Mustafa Kemal Ataturk)
Power is the ultimate afrodisiak (Henry kissinger)

^ well i dont think they all are not stupid enuff to do such a thing any ways when its some particular kurd join this sh1t side you think they all are pkk some of you guys here take things to racial thats the problem with you guys

And the problem with you guys is that you are so blind not to see that not us but Kurds take the things to racial side.

Question to you:
What happens to a Kurd wafing a PKK flag in Istanbul? Nothing!

I dare you to wafe a MHP flag in Diyarbakir, let's see if you mother recognizes you afterwards again.

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Turkiye Turklerindir (Mustafa Kemal Ataturk)
Power is the ultimate afrodisiak (Henry kissinger)

Consequences of coming down from the mountains

One of the main targets of the democratic initiative is undoubtedly to put an end to acts of terror. This is also known by the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK), which no longer behaves as it has in the past.



Not only has the world changed its position with respect to terrorism and terrorist organizations, Turkey has also evolved so that it will no longer allow any terrorist activity. For this reason, the PKK has been isolated, and its isolation will be exacerbated if it does not change its position.

Of course, in the post-Sept. 11 world, the US has redefined terrorism with an emphasis on its global aspects. Its combat against al-Qaeda has come to be regarded as a model for countries that are troubled by terrorist organizations. In this framework, it is no longer possible for the US to lend support to the PKK. Thus, Turkish-US relations have shifted so as to make things worse for the PKK. The process that culminated in the declaration by the US last week that PKK leaders Murat Karaylan and Zübeyir Aydar are drug dealers does not leave the PKK much room for maneuver.

Resorting to diplomatic means and implementing its democratic initiative, Turkey has managed to secure the support of the international community and can make moves to undermine terrorism. Thanks to these moves, the political support lent to the PKK by Europe is diminishing to zero. Indeed, with the democratic reforms it has undertaken in recent years, Turkey is leaving no room for criticism from Europe. Kurdish language training courses have been opened. Although these courses have been closed down due to a lack of sufficient interest, this has been recorded as a plus in Turkey's report card. The Turkish state has removed bans on the Kurdish language. A public TV station airing programs in the Kurdish language has been launched, paving the way for private TV stations to do the same. Kurdish songs are freely sung on every TV channel.

These bold steps have been followed by the launch of investigations into unresolved murders. In a trial launched in Diyarbakr, a court has begun to try people who overstepped their power and authority and undertook illegal activities against local people. Acid wells were reopened and the remains of people who were killed in unsolved murders were sought.

Several military officers on active duty have even been indicted in connection with these murders. As a result of the claims raised, a number of commanders are now standing trial.

Given all these developments, there is no longer a suitable ground for voicing such unfounded claims as "our people are being tyrannized" or "the cultural rights of our people are being denied." If the terrorist organization voices such claims, people can then ask it, "What more can the state do?" As the delicate problems that are exploited by the terrorist organization are dealt with one by one, the PKK is losing its persuasiveness.

This is also what happens abroad. Although it had managed to secure logistical support from countries in the region until very recently, the PKK will no longer find the same comfortable environment. When Turkey establishes close relations with Syria and makes a strategic partnership with northern Iraq and the central Iraqi state, can these countries lend the PKK support as easily as they did in the past? Of course not.

Thanks to Turkey's diplomatic barricade move, the PKK has been cornered in the mountains. It has nowhere to run and no one to take refuge in. Moreover, all the excuses are being eliminated one by one. Health problems suffered by members of the terrorist organization after staying in the mountains for extended periods of time are obvious. There is only one viable way out: a farewell to arms. This means coming down from the mountains and living like human beings in a country undergoing normalization.

Attempts by the pro-Kurdish Democratic Society Party (DTP) to create a show out of the ceremony of handing over weapons are quite understandable given the rationale of the organization. The leaders of the organization know better than anyone the traumas that will follow their surrender. They need such shows to conceal this mood. At the same time, we must not ignore the process of coming down from the mountains by being distracted by these shows. In the final analysis, there is a process going on, and this is important.

Republican People's Party (CHP) leader Deniz Baykal said, "I appreciate the PKK coming down from the mountains." And he is perfectly right. If this process goes on, we will no longer see the dead corpses of our young boys wrapped in flags. Only then will the true meaning of the democratic initiative that aims to make every individual a first class citizen be understood

http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/columnists-190554-consequences-of-coming-down-from-the-mountains.html

my god look at this pictures of our sehits how long it is!

and we let still sitting pkk supporters in TBMM????! idont understand maybe i am to dumb for global politics made by mr erdogan...

p.s. yasin you little akepe asslicker shut your ****ty mouth you little retard!

my god look at this pictures of our sehits how long it is!
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This is only the tip of the iceberg. More than 6,482 TR soldiers and security personnel is ...you know. All according to TR Army statistcs, Kurds say twice as that.