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Turkey and Azerbaijan: “One Nation-Two States?”

October 22 2009 at 12:20 AM
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Turkey and Azerbaijan: One Nation-Two States?

Publication: Eurasia Daily Monitor Volume: 6 Issue: 193
October 21, 2009 03:07 PM Age: 4 hrs

By: Saban Kardas

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The strains in Turkish-Azeri relations caused by Turkey's energy policies and its attemps to resolve its diplomatic problems with Armenia are beginning to dominate the agenda in Ankaras relations with Baku.

On October 15, in a district of Baku, Turkish flags decorating monuments commemorating the Turkish soldiers who died while fighting for Azerbaijan's independence in 1918 were removed. Azerbaijani authorities maintained that the decision had no political significance and was implemented to comply with a law regarding the display of foreign flags. However, the Turkish media publicized this incident, stressing that it was meant as a protest against Ankaras decision to allow Turkish spectators to wave Azeri flags during the soccer game between the Turkish and Armenian national teams on October 14 (Milliyet, October 18). To prevent any negative public reaction in Turkey, subsequent press reports stressed that the Azeri press had reacted to this decision by the authorities in Baku (Hurriyet, October 20).

Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu reiterated that Turkey's policy of supporting Azerbaijans position on Karabakh remained intact and that Ankara would honor its commitment to this policy. He emphasized that Azeri soil was as precious to Turkey as its own. Regarding the Turkish flag incident, Davutoglu said that Ankara was informed that it was a temporary arrangement as part of restoration work (Cihan, October 19).

However, recent statements by Azerbaijans President Ilham Aliyev have further fueled concern over the deterioration of the Turkish-Azeri ties. Aliyev expressed openly his dissatisfaction with the stalled negotiations between Ankara and Baku over the adjustment of the price for Turkey's natural gas imports from Azerbaijan, and the conditions governing the export of its gas through Turkey en route to the European market (EDM, August 10). While meeting with cabinet members, Aliyev maintained that for several years, Baku had sold cheap gas to Turkey (Anadolu Ajansi, October 17). He asked the question: Which country would sell their natural resources at 30 percent of international prices?

After reaffirming his eagerness to export its gas to Europe, Aliyev stressed that the unresolved status of the transit regime through Turkey over the last two years was a major setback to his countrys interests. He said that Ankara should lower the transit price for gas flowing through Turkish territory and that the current offer is unacceptable. He added that Azerbaijan will continue to look for alternative routes to carry its gas. Additional reports in the Turkish media claimed that Aliyev was seriously considering alternative routes to the Nabucco project through Georgia and the Black Sea, including either through Romania or Bulgaria (Hurriyet, October 19).

This occurred in the aftermath of an agreement between Azerbaijans State Oil Company President Rovnag Abdullayev and Gazprom CEO Aleksei Miller regarding Azerbaijani gas exports to Russia which was signed on October 14 in Baku (EDM, October 15). These steps appear to signify Bakus efforts to reduce its export dependencey on Turkey, as its production capacity increases in the coming years.

Although the Turkish public was alarmed by these statements, due to the prospect of higher energy prices, government officials reacted with relative indifference, while denying any responsibility for the stalled negotiations with Azerbaijan. Turkish Energy Minister Taner Yildiz responded to Aliyevs remarks, claiming that they were most probably based on faulty information given to Aliyev. Noting that the Turkish-Azeri gas trade started only in 2007, Yildiz maintained that it is not the case that Turkey has purchased cheap gas for years. We only purchased gas at the discounted prices for ten months. In April 2008, we submitted our price revision offer. We do not want to damage Azeri interests. There was a deadlock in the negotiations over price revisions. We increased our offer, and the talks are still in progress (Anadolu Ajansi, October 19).

It is true that Ankara's efforts to use its geographic location as an asset and assert itself as an energy hub for the transportation of Caspian basin resources to world markets puts it at odds with producers, including Azerbaijan, which view such policies as exacting undue profits. Nonetheless, it is revealing that these developments took place against the background of the Turkish government's efforts to normalize the relations with Armenia. Despite such initiatives to resolve its long standing problems with Armenia, Bakus objections to Turkish-Armenian normalization without first resolving Azeri-Armenian issues have been well documented. In order to express his dissatisfaction with Ankaras rapid rapprochement with Yerevan, Aliyev has reduced his contact with Turkish statesmen, and refrained from visiting the country in many critical international or bilateral gatherings, such as the Alliance of Civilizations platform or the signing of the inter-governmental agreement on the Nabucco project. Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan's speech in the Azeri parliament in May sought to reassure Baku, yet Turkey forged ahead with its talks with Armenia. On October 10 Turkey and Armenia signed protocols to establish diplomatic relations and reopen their border (EDM, October 14).

The Turkish public fear that by pushing for the normalization with Armenia under pressure from the United States and the E.U. Turkey has unnecessarily damaged its ties with Azerbaijan. The Turkish press continues to highlight the fragility of the one-nation two-state motto, which once described the brotherly relations between the two capitals. Reflecting this new atmosphere, one Turkish daily ran a story entitled, One nation tearing apart (Hurriyet, October 19). However, as the energy-related developments reveal, the Turkish-Armenian normalization threatens not only the emotional ties between the two nations, but also commercial ties. An Azeri folk song, which is also very popular in Turkey, speaks about the sorrowful separation between the two countries in the past. With the current developments, the Turks and Azeris are facing a new test to avoid yet another separation.

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Re: Turkey and Azerbaijan: “One Nation-Two States?”

October 22 2009, 12:22 AM 


" Azerbaijani authorities maintained that the decision had no political significance and was implemented to comply with a law regarding the display of foreign flags. "

The view our flag as foreign?

So much for brotherhood..puuhhhh

 
 

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Re: Turkey and Azerbaijan: “One Nation-Two States?”

October 22 2009, 12:22 AM 

one nation 2 states?

i dont think the t/cyps believe that,smilies0264.gif


 
 


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Re: Turkey and Azerbaijan: “One Nation-Two States?”

October 22 2009, 12:27 AM 

DEAR AZERI BROS...

only akpian arrabici wannabes are not your brothers...

also they are not TURK and our brothers..


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Re: Turkey and Azerbaijan: “One Nation-Two States?”

October 22 2009, 12:31 AM 

"ONE NATION TWO COUNTRIES"

FOREVER..

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FM: Protocols to pave way for regional peace, including Azerbaijan

October 22 2009, 12:36 AM 

Two protocols signed between Armenia and Turkey for re-establishing ties and reopening their mutual border will eventually help change the status quo in the Southern Caucasus, which currently serves the interests of neither Armenia and Turkey nor Azerbaijan, Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutolu said on Wednesday.



Davutolu was speaking as the government sent the two protocols to Parliament for ratification. The governing party holds a majority in the 550-seat Parliament, and the accords are likely to be ratified. But it is not clear when voting will take place since there is no timetable on when the ratification should take place. Armenia and Turkey signed the protocols in Zurich on Oct. 10. They need to be ratified by both parliaments to go into force. Underlining that the mutual recognition of the border protocols and the implementation of a dialogue on the historical aspect [of Turkey-Armenia disputes] with the aim of restoring mutual confidence between the two nations were important parts of the protocols, Davutolu said: What we aim at is laying the ground for general normalization in the Caucasus. What we want to do is create a just memory'.

Normalization can be meaningful when it is comprehensive, but not when it is only between two countries, the minister added, stressing that normalization of relations between Ankara and Yerevan would also accelerate reconciliation and peace between Baku and Yerevan, provided that Turkey's firm support for the protection of Azerbaijan's territorial integrity continues.

The status quo is not useful for any of these countries. We should remove the status quo with peaceful means in order to avoid seeing the emergence of a new risk, Davutolu said.

Davutolu's speech was frequently interrupted by opposition lawmakers, who accuse the government of making concessions by signing the documents. The protocols are against the national interests of our country, said Oktay Vural, who addressed the session on behalf of his Nationalist Movement Party (MHP). He claimed that the protocols were signed under pressure from the US and said, The MHP will oppose as strongly as it can when Parliament begins voting on the protocols.

The Republican People's Party's (CHP) ükrü Elekda criticized the government for pushing for protocols in Parliament although there is no progress on Armenia's Nagorno-Karabakh dispute with Azerbaijan.

The pro-Kurdish Democratic Society Party (DTP), on the other hand, welcomed the protocols. We support the resolution of Turkey's domestic and foreign issues with dialogue, Selahattin Demirta of the DTP told Parliament. He also called for a more open debate on Turkey's history: I'm saying it openly, the massacres of the Armenians are not mentioned in our textbooks, he said.

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"Normalization can be meaningful when it is comprehensive, but not when it is only between two countries, the minister added, stressing that normalization of relations between Ankara and Yerevan would also accelerate reconciliation and peace between Baku and Yerevan, provided that Turkey's firm support for the protection of Azerbaijan's territorial integrity continues."



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Re: Turkey and Azerbaijan: “One Nation-Two States?”

October 22 2009, 6:20 AM 

"One Nation-Two States?"

Of course, until the end of the world. smilies0293.gif



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