What is your opinion on 105mm towed howitzers? Do they have a future?

Turkish MKEK is tasked by SSM to design a new 105mm lightweight towed howitzer by 2015, more than 100 are required.


Current leightweight 105mm of the Turkish army is the WW2 era M 101A1 howitzer.



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Turkiye Turklerindir (Mustafa Kemal Ataturk)
Power is the ultimate afrodisiak (Henry kissinger)

why not just make something similar to the m777 i know its to expensive but is there a cheaper way to it

m777

Depends if MKEK can get their 105mm howitzer under 1,500kg then I suppose there would be logic behind it, but if its any where near 2,500kg waste of time and money..

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On 12 June 1992, a Greek Mirage F-1C crashed during a dogfight with a Turkish F-16 piloted by Capt. Ilhan Filiz.

On 8 October 1996, a Greek Mirage-2000 piloted by Thanos Grivas shot down a Turkish F-16D with a Magic IR missile.

Just two days after that murder, on 10 October 1996 a Greek Mirage-2000 crashed close to Semadirek island after a dogfight with two Turkish F-16s.

Point of the story is: TUAF saved itself two missiles.

Yes, logic would be if transportable by the blackhawk helicopter

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Turkiye Turklerindir (Mustafa Kemal Ataturk)
Power is the ultimate afrodisiak (Henry kissinger)

M777 is 155 mm

So far the Turks are able to carry rusty old M-116's of 76mm on air assault opeartions. This means any troops managing to land behind enemy lines will have minimal artillery support.

Can Greeks even land behind the enemy lines? Leave alone do they even have the balls to show up?

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Turkiye Turklerindir (Mustafa Kemal Ataturk)
Power is the ultimate afrodisiak (Henry kissinger)

LOL

Midget Nutuk somehow forgets two dozen WW2 era HAF transport planes flying without escort through warzone guarded by THK fighters.
Oh,I forget.
These dumbo turco pilots had better things to do.
Like bombing their own flag ship cause of greek electronic warfare,lol.

105mm gun are valid today, especially if you need to transport it by helicopters. Also transporting ammuntion is another issue, if you you 105mm guns not only you can transport it by air, but also ammunition will be transported by helicopters. So it has quite good advantages.

I am an Artillery Reserve Officer(DEA (PB) for the Greeks) and the 105mm Howitzer is the primary form of training we get. It looks old, rusty and ineffective but a battery of 4-6 can heavily defend a region or even assault an area. Still I beleive self-propelled artillery guns and multiple missile launchers like RM-70 are much more of a force multiplier.

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turkish management at its best!!

 

not an urgent requirement,but heck lets divert more money and resources from where its needed.

then we'll come up with another armoured wheeled vehicle just for good measure.

GREEK ARMY 105mm howitzers

M-101 in action



Model 56 Pack in a parade

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aq... koskoc amkek te yapiversin bir tane 105 lik... 5000 personel var ...

mkek should design indegenous 105 mm gun...

my suggestion is german 88 mm based semi auto artillery...

What's good about this 105mm, Pakistan army has many of them and using in anti terror operation mainly in mountain area ?????

PEACE

Pakistan Army is a joke, never won a war and is currently having its 105mm howitzers shoved up the arse.

Flying Pakistani telak

^^^greek gay boy is tired of daily dick service from turks ???

PEACE

PAKI-stan, ass TORE in EVERY war...!!!

lol

"M777 is 155 mm " it is but it is one of the lightest 155 howitzers out there in the market


M777 Specifications
Weight 3,175 kg (7,000 lb)
Length 10.7 m (35 ft) in firing position; 9.5 m (31 ft 2 in) towed position
Barrel length 39 calibers
Crew 5

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M777_howitzer

towed artillery is still usefull for the turks i suppose. it can be employed to shell hapless kurds and their donkeys in the east. in thrace however, it would be a death sentence for the crews to open fire against hellenic formations equipped with counter-battery radar like ARTHURS and crawling with dispersed net-centric 155mm SPA. if turkey is investing in new lightweight towed systems i guess its more evidence that they intend to keep up the national pastime of half-assed pkk suppresion in the future. try baseball, you troglodites. everyone can play and nobody gets hurt.

M101

Specifications
Weight 2,260 kg (5,000 lb)
Length 5.94 m (19.5 ft)
Barrel length 22 calibre: 2.31 m (7.6 ft)
Width 2.21 m (7.3 ft)
Height 1.73 m (5.7 ft)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M101_howitzer

m777
Specifications
Weight 3,175 kg (7,000 lb)
Length 10.7 m (35 ft) in firing position; 9.5 m (31 ft 2 in) towed position
Barrel length 39 calibers
Crew 5
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M777_howitzer

its only 1000kg difference but with a lot of firepower