I am planning to add 1 Greek and 1 turkish moderator to moderate their own countrymen only. Kamakazie and Levend may moderate both sides

If you are interested please email me at greekbonoWAFF@live.com

also please note my new WAFF email account. my email is getting bombarded with all sorts of stuff

Why would anyone really want to become a mod?

It's like volunteering for enslavement. You give up all your rights and have to be a decent poster; no flaming; no going berzerk; having to let your national bias go; having to take orders from Bono, etc. Bah! 

i turn my back on you for 5 minutes coepus and your plotting against me already.

besides if im a mod then whos going to moderate me?

thats understood however i have a couple of questions

1)who is going to select the moderator the administrator or the members?

2) when you say that you are looking for a moderator you mean somebody who will have the right to exercise his own judgement according to the situations or a lap dog of the administrators?

thats all

thats understood however i have a couple of questions

1)who is going to select the moderator the administrator or the members?

This isnt  a contest or a vote, its not about selecting someone who is popular, its about someone who can do their job objectively. That being said, it will be me who selects from those who send me an email. Please note, i am going to select ONLY people who send me an email, and not for anyone who posts in this thread only

2) when you say that you are looking for a moderator you mean somebody who will have the right to exercise his own judgement according to the situations or a lap dog of the administrators?

Quite frankly, i dont understand this STUPID question. Moderators apply the rules, end of story. Administrators oversee the daily admin functions of the forum  and also act as moderators. Judgement calls are sometimes necessary as the rule infractions arent allways black and white. The administrators want the moderators to apply the rules eveningly and learn how to apply the rules in a certain way, therefore if moderators make a mistake, they will be told so, nicely and sometimes not so nicely in the moderators forum. the most common mistake moderators make is over moderating which is something i am against and certainly something that Mike is against. IT is sometimes a thankless job, you get nothing but flack from the members, i have been called a turklover, greek hater and even and simply, not greek.

So if that means a moderator is an  administrators' LAPDOG, u need not apply.

This isnt  a contest or a vote, its not about selecting someone who is popular, its about someone who can do their job objectively. That being said, it will be me who selects from those who send me an email. Please note, i am going to select ONLY people who send me an email, and not for anyone who posts in this thread only

so it is you who decides who can do his job objectively, therefore my question has been answered i could ask you of course about your criteria of selection and how could you be so sure that your selection will be good but i will refrain from asking such a question since it seems that you are perfect yourself therefore your judgement must be perfect as well

Quite frankly, i dont understand this STUPID question. Moderators apply the rules, end of story. Administrators oversee the daily admin functions of the forum  and also act as moderators. Judgement calls are sometimes necessary as the rule infractions arent allways black and white. The administrators want the moderators to apply the rules eveningly and learn how to apply the rules in a certain way, therefore if moderators make a mistake, they will be told so, nicely and sometimes not so nicely in the moderators forum. the most common mistake moderators make is over moderating which is something i am against and certainly something that Mike is against. IT is sometimes a thankless job, you get nothing but flack from the members, i have been called a turklover, greek hater and even and simply, not greek.

So if that means a moderator is an  administrators' LAPDOG, u need not apply.

it is not a stupid question it is a very rational question, the rules of course are the rules and need to be followed but a moderator should be able to distinguish where he needs to turn a blind eye to violations or not, this is something which needs good judgement and experience however the duties of a moderator can be severely hindered by the prejudice and opinions of the administrators, a moderator who is not being able to exercise his own judgement is just a puppet who is being manipulated by others so his role means a big nothing he is just a stupid pawn on the chessboard if you understand what i mean thats why i asked the question , and no thanks im not interested in becoming a moderator since i know perfectly well how things work here

there is something however that i need to agree with you, the fact that a moderator never gets a thank you for his efforts. I totally agree with you  on that, on the contrary a moderator is an object of critisism by everybody.

the most common mistake moderators make is over moderating which is something i am against and certainly something that Mike is against.

there is not  such a thing as over moderating, let me explain what i mean i dont know what you or Mike believes but let me make clear my own beliefs, if you see somebody on the street that you dont know him how would you talk to him? i bet you would behave yourself so would i. On the contrary on the net many people do not behave themselves because they think of the  forum and the others as object of fun and trolling reasurring themselves in their anonymity and a somewhat safety that internet provides you to insult somebody from distance something that you wouldnt do by the way if you had this person face to face. It is the false sense of liberty and security which internets provides to the potential users which encourages people to behave in a rude and unacceptable way, if the administration encourages that for its own purposes then so much the worst. You will see 15 years old kids to insult people who could be their dads or grandfathers.

 The problem here is how you and Mike think that a forum should function, if it is a place of fun in the sense that everything is allowed for jokking purposes even offending somebody that you dont know then of course you will be very lenient to personal insults for the shake of the popularity of the forum. In this case what you have been doing is simply to allow personal insults which do not necessarily object or contradict the rules of the forum against a member (by the way lets not forget that you the administration makes the rules based on your own philosophy and ideals and you will be those to decide when those rules do not strictly apply in any case it is you who have the knive and the watermelon in your hands and your errors will severely affect the duties of a moderator)

, but this member sooner or later will be forced by your same rules to respond in kind.

if on the other hand you think of your forum as a place where you can exchange ideas respecting other peoples personalities then no personal insults of any kind should be allowed, just pure constructive conversations

so think about it if an adminstrator thinks that his moderator is overmoderating when he punishes somebody who offended another member and he says to him. thats a mistake because he didnt violate the rules of the forum therefore he doesnt need to be punished, then the moderator is not being able to exercise his own judgement and becomes a pawn in the hands of the administrators.

the philosophy of the administrators on how they want their forum to run ,based on what principles and values is crucial for the duties of the moderator who will be called to act based on the same values and principles

i hope you got what i said.

in any case, to conclude my participation in this thread since i need to get some sleep i wish good luck to the potential canditates of course needless to say that your personal luck will be depended on how much Bono likes and approves you , so you better make sure that you have a good personal relationship with him before you decide to apply.

by the way Bono, i know that i have been asking stupid questions as you said but let me be stupid as you claim and ask you another question (in fact i have never been interested in other peoples opinion about me and my questions), why a Greek moderator does not have the right to punish a Turkish member or the opposite? i thought that your impeccable selection based on your personal genious and intelligence would guarantee that a moderator will be completely objective when exercising his duties. Isnt it so?

anyway lets move on, good night Bono and everybody else.

my friend

2 things to tell you

1. CONDENSE YOUR POSTS!!!!!!!!!!!!, NO ONE IS GOING TO READ THEM

2. Stop underlining, its really annoying

as for you last paragraph, which is the only thing i read, new moderators can only moderate their countrymen to ensure complete unbiasedness. now with your futher comment, even though it may sound intelligent, its not. If you have noticed, this is the internet, not real life, kinda hard to make a character call, dont ya THINK? once and if i am comfortable as i am with Kam and no need to even discuss levend, then perhaps i will give them the right to moderate others as well.

When i was made a moderator, the turks here were up in arms.

have a goodnight sleep there onty

BONO,

Put me down for consideration.,i'd e mail you but havent solved the computer issue  with yahoo just yet.

thanks fantaro,its upto bono though.

i hope he doesnt blackball me.

i think yasin would make a good turkish moderator.

might be the only way the little yobarse gets a little respect.

thanks cizerim,,i appreciate your vote of confidence.

you'd make a good moderator too

(and you know it!)

if bono sees fit that i should be a moderator i hope he gives me a 24 hour warning before his decision comes into effect.

i wana flame my ass off before i have to tone it.

it worked?

wait till i rip your ass in without lube!

you havent an ass?

you have a point corpus

after all we all know you talk shiit ,we just didnt know why.

Aietus

you have been having computer problems for a long time! whats up with that man.

ur name is officially in the pool i'll make an exception since your having these problems lol

and all of you, u would be surprised who would make a good moderator. sometimes the worst flammers are the best ones.

someone should bump some threads when they announced me as moderator

lol

Who needs an ass when Kallimachos always walks around you with a bucket in his hands, bless his heart.

Seriously though, just imagine how it'd be like if humans didn't have asses. You'd have to time your eating habits precisely just to avoid unwanted scenes in public. And all those ass jokes would be meaningless, Gayreeks would have to become heterosexuals, etc.

thanks bono.

and for the record i have read some of the old threads.you old flammer you.

as for the computer problems i have been engaged in a war of attrition with some punk who has been bombarding my system with spyware,trojans and virus's. nothing seems to help

but i m minutes away from finding out who he/she is.

well just create a new email address. its takes 30 seconds!

i would bono but the dam thing spread like a cancer into everything.every time i get on the internet it blocks the sites i want to visit and it says this site is reported as un safe and freezes.

it especially says this about network 54.

imagine network 54 as unsafe.

its ok,soon as as my new computer is ready,this one is heading back to pakistan.

kami,i'll bring along some of my old mans home made moon shine!

nasa runs the space shuttle off a the stuff.

WARNING ISSUED TO CHARLIE TURK!!

whos your daddy now charles?

sorry couldnt help help myself,lol

kami,tezel is my adopted son.

actually his the son i never had.

(or wanted lol)

"you're not a mod yet mate, besides, I'm squeaky clean, not even a parking ticket to my name in this place."

Aietus: Driver im going to have to issue you an infringement for you broken tail light.

Charlie: are you nuts?,what broken tail light?

"WHACK"

Aietus: that broken tail light!

respect my authoritah!

dont worry yasin,im sure i'll find ways around the rules to continue slapping your docile head in..

guys, it was a simple thread