Wha happened with the deal Grekos? Seems that Grekos are again looking at 2nd hand M2 bradleys and the German Marder.


Hehehe damn Germanics they never do something for free, they put a carrot of 160 Leopard 2A4 in front of your nose but want you to purchase the Marders.

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Power is the ultimate afrodisiak (Henry kissinger)

Nutuk, the Turret/gun combination on the BMP-3 would give the fnss Acv-300 great fire power mate!

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and cheaper as well we should make a turret similar to the bmp 3 turret for our akinci

Well, seen there is no such a requirement from our army I guess we don't need it. Allthough I must add that I read something in S&H magazine that there are considerations of wheeled armored vehicles with 105mm cannon. But wether such will be chosen is still not clear yet.

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Turkiye Turklerindir (Mustafa Kemal Ataturk)
Power is the ultimate afrodisiak (Henry kissinger)

The Swedish CV90 would be a great platform for us. Since Hägglunds have some economical problems, I guess we can manage to get great tech-transfer and co-operation on a new platform as well.

CV90





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Wha happened with the deal Grekos?

when we learn what happened im sure that you will hear from us, till then better look at your own armament programs.

ODYSSEUS KILLING THE SUITORS

Without a doubt CV-90 is a magnificent AFV, however does the Turkish Army require its AFV to be amphibious or not?

i had a lot of reservations about the hellenic army going for the BMP-3M. i think what we need is an AIFV to support the MBTs and be capable of taking a few licks from 20mm or rpg fire. the BMP-3 is almost the inverse of that. it has enough firepower to seize ground all by itself against anything short of MBT's, and armor protection was the sacrificial design element.

i don't know if the hellenic army wants the BMP-3 for MBT support or for a more agressive mech-inf doctrine, but as i see it PUMA or CV-90 are the best choices. hell i don't know if they want it at all... greek arms procurement can get so political at times that its hard to make sense of it.

@chris

Mate You gotta admit though mate CV-90 is by far the best AFV in its class!

after the bmp3 the cv 90 is the next best armed Aifv/micv.

that 40mm gun will tear into just about anything..its also more ergonomical than the bmp3 and better armoured.

the xk21 should be very ideal for us and easy to get as well and the chassis of the xk21 would be great for our 35mm spaag

Nah my choice is still the CV-90 man.......Xk-21 is only a second choice if you cant get the CV-90! I mean really take a look at this man.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HiAKpoZhbQ

as long as we get the 40mm im happey and the chassis for our twin spaag 35mm guns im happey

^

you'll be able to sleep better at night will you?

yes dreaming on how i can kill you with that 40mm

Quoting yasin:

You cant kill me fuk face this is the internet!!

 

sound familiar yobaz!

and your a christian yobaz and i said i was dreaming about it not what im going to do to you in real life idiot

well if im a yobaz it must be embarasing for you that a yobaz has been slapping you silly from day one!

then its the same thing to you then since day one

Yasin from day 1.

September 2 2009, 4:05 PM

and aeitus from day 1

stop your protesting yasin!

i live in australia not turkiye aietus crying like a monster

 

you live in australia yasin,well let me explain it to you this way.

you thought you were a tough fish till you ran into me.

now your just fish food!

no i never fought of that you wish i fought of that you hairy greek ape

does it what are you a human dog

your just a freak that thinks his a champ

shut the fuk up chimp,your bitching is annoying.

why are you talking you stfu

there you go chimp,have a banana it'll hopefully shut the hole under your nose!

i wont shut up unless you shut up and dont forget you started it first so you shut up

you shut up,turks dont have freedom of speech anyway.

yes they do but they cant talk about mk

yassin,you want to end up like them? might be the only way

i did not ask you to insult me you wanted to if you want me to stop talking to you that badly why dont you put that thing on your self

aeitus the only way to end your stupidity is this cut your own fingers off

What you two doing is called SPAMMING and it really did start to get boring...

So what's the deal? Is it cancelled?

If so, any chance of going back to Kentauros? (Speaking of which, why did that fall through? I don't really know much about the project other than the specs on wikipedia. lol)

Azerbaijan has about 10 BMP3s and 60-70 more on order.

Its ace and would not compare it to any other IFVs out there.

The best option is utilize the 1 billion + Euros to upgrade the existing M-113 fleet. First class opportunity for the indigenous def industry to grow. As for the BMP-3M, we know it from Cyprus NG, it is not compatible with Hellenic needs.

Israeli upgrade package with Raphael Sampson turet



Australian AS4 variant



M-113, a jewel.

The only finger you'll be getting yasin!

i don't want to do this any more im tired of insulting you

ok yasin! (you were insulting me??,you need to hang out with corpus)

he lives all the way in turkey i think

yeah,he lives in the Adana prison system.

anyway lets come back to the topic , it seems that there is bad news i had been always in favor of BMP3 however im very displeased to say that the new government will screw up everything since the pimp has already offered his Bradleys, i bet that the new governemnt will succumb to the demands of the pimp to buy American used material.

 so as i said from the beginning this government will probably ruin everything.

You see i kept my promise Nutuk and as long as i learned the first news i was quick to post them in your thread. It seems that the prospect of buying new vehicles is very far. The government claims that she will examine all canditaships from zero base, this practically means that we should wave good bye to our good relationships with the Russians and their vehicles.

The Germans will probably try to promote their own Marders they already made the beginning with the used Leos.

I can predict a gaitanaki (type of dance) of useless agreements which will be imposed on us by the pimp and major other powers alot of pieces of junk for our arsenal especially if we choose Brandley after American pressure, and of course bribery will reign once again.

as i said the future is pretty bleak.

ODYSSEUS KILLING THE SUITORS

Well don't worry, Bradly is in principle the same vehicle as "our" ACV-S

Bradley


ACV-S




However I think the Pasok government will sail more along the path of Germany, with Marders and 2A4's for Greece, although bradley + M113 upgrade going to the Americans is not unthinkable too.

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Power is the ultimate afrodisiak (Henry kissinger)

as i said the future is bleak i predict a severe deterioration to our relationship with the Russians and bowing our head to the pimp once again buying used material

i think its now time for all of us to wave good bye to our new Bmp3's

they wanted PASOK as a government and now we will pay the price as it seems.

ODYSSEUS KILLING THE SUITORS

Like a joke... What a banana 2nd hand country.... Do not you have a defence procurement policy ?

It looks like a joke, but do you guys realize that Greeks would get the best value for price / most tech transfer and workshare from Turkey if there had been a possibility. Ofcourse Greece would never buy FNSS ACV from Turkey as that would be regarded as a complete humiliation for their government.

Greek politics are so predictable (they are a twin clone of our political parties), meaning the new government will overthrow almost everything that the previous government did etc. Such discontinuations cost both our nations a lot, sadly.

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Turkiye Turklerindir (Mustafa Kemal Ataturk)
Power is the ultimate afrodisiak (Henry kissinger)