Fixed orders

HAF;

AIM-120B;240
AIM-120C5;150
AIM-120C7;130

THK;

AIM-120A;176
AIM-120B;138

You have to include the MICAs to the equation.

BTW, is it true the Turks dont have any C7 still?

@Vlix

No,I did not put the Micas into the equation.
This would be to much for rezilik turco airforce,lol.
Look here;

http://www.dsca.osd.mil/PressReleases/36-b/2008/Turkey_08-96.pdf

Since then no order,lol.

You seem right.

I see a request for possible sale of 107 missiles back in Sept 2008, but no news after that.
Weird!

How many MICAs in our weaponry by the way?

We have 300xMicas.both versions.

btw,this is what an order looks like;

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July 1/08: An $87.6 million contract modification will provide 130 AIM-120C7s to Greece, and 6 Non-Developmental Item Airborne Instrumentation Units (NDI-AIUs) to Germany, as a modification to the AMRAAM Production Lot 21 contract. At this time all funds have been committed (FA8675-07-C-0055, P00011).

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http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/amraam-deploying-developing-americas-mediumrange-airair-missile-updated-02512/

Yanni, very good post. Although IN PAPER both Airforce's have equal number of modern fighters (Greece 204-Turkey 209) in reality the Greek side enjoys the strategic advantage.

*JHMCS for latest F-16's
*AWACS capabilities with 4 ERIYE
*Superior Air-Defence
*Numerical and qualitave advantage in air to air missiles both BVR and WVR
*Excellent forward airfields notably in Kasteli, Lemnos and Skyros
*The best pilots

Turkey only enjoys an advantage in air-refuelling with her 7 aging KC-135R's.

http://www.defencenet.gr/defence/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7588&Itemid=92

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On 12 June 1992, a Greek Mirage F-1C crashed during a dogfight with a Turkish F-16 piloted by Capt. Ilhan Filiz.

On 8 October 1996, a Greek Mirage-2000 piloted by Thanos Grivas shot down a Turkish F-16D with a Magic IR missile.

Just two days after that murder, on 10 October 1996 a Greek Mirage-2000 crashed close to Semadirek island after a dogfight with two Turkish F-16s.

Point of the story is: TUAF saved itself two missiles.

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On 12 June 1992, a Greek Mirage F-1C crashed during a dogfight with a Turkish F-16 piloted by Capt. Ilhan Filiz.

On 8 October 1996, a Greek Mirage-2000 piloted by Thanos Grivas shot down a Turkish F-16D with a Magic IR missile.

Just two days after that murder, on 10 October 1996 a Greek Mirage-2000 crashed close to Semadirek island after a dogfight with two Turkish F-16s.

Point of the story is: TUAF saved itself two missiles.

Combat, the only reason why I bother with you is this competitive spirit of yours, maybe you are not the smartest person in the world but you sure as hell know how to flame. However, airforce threads are not competitive grounds, here lays our strength.

Now chew on this

Mike, the undisputed owner of Turkish baboons


Mike killing Turk Kara Murat

I would take the numbers of missile purchases or stocks with a grain of salt. This is a very important number which IMO nations would not want to make public, regardless if they enjoy a superiority or not. The deception is for public consumption, not the actual numbers. If a nation does have superiority or inferiority in missiles such as the ones mentioned, it does not have anything to gain by stating the numbers except to show it's hand........which isn't smart. Its ok to know how many aircraft exist in the inventory, but without the missiles they use, it means almost nothing. This is why I say that it is just too much of a vital figure to release, unless it is part of a disinformation campaign.



http://kypros.org/Occupied_Cyprus/lambousa/

@Fantare

Countries like greece or turkey may do secret deals with russia,france or israel.
But no way with the US of A.
And sure not when it comes to weaponary which need the ok from congress,lol.

I am not talking about secret deals. I am talking about what they say they have or don't have.



http://kypros.org/Occupied_Cyprus/lambousa/

It does not matter what one says himself when it comes to his US missile inventory.
Besides the jews nobody gets anything under the table from the USA.

Again, I am not talking about "under the table" or any "secret deals"



http://kypros.org/Occupied_Cyprus/lambousa/

lol

So what are you talking about?

I already mentioned that a few posts above.



http://kypros.org/Occupied_Cyprus/lambousa/

@Fantare

There is no other source anyone can get AIM120 for his F-16.
This is what source codes and DSCA/congress export clearance is all about,lol.

I've already posted my opinion, I don't think nations are stupid enough to show their hand. You do, nuff said.



http://kypros.org/Occupied_Cyprus/lambousa/

lol

Fantare,you may have your opinion but this does not change a thing.
The US has strict export rules for everyone with only exception maybe the jews.
One more reason HAF wants her french fighters and the "special orders" since many decades.
Ofcourse it is not clever to show your numbers for such crucial systems but if you buy american you donīt have other choice since everything to the last bullet is written in the daily DSCA bulletins.
What is so difficult to understand?

All( 300+) Turkish Aim-120s are B versions. Production of Aim-120As switched to B version after 1994 and none of the As were sold via FMS. It was not cleared for export that time. First Turkish Aim-120Bs were delivered in 1997...There is an order of 107 Aim-1C7 for TuAF also...FMS contrat should be announced very soon...

Fantare
if you are implying that Yiannis is giving away military secrets (!) the above info is all over the military press
greek and international

http://www.amynanet.gr/isorropia/14.htm

and some info about the latest purchase of AIM120-C7

http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=3958758
http://www.menewsline.com/article-261-U-S-Approves-Missile-Support-For.aspx

@AE

Like some other NATO partners THK got some dozen AIM120A from USAF stocks cause AIM120B did not reach export before 1997.
HAF recieved her first AIM120B in 1998 allthough the order was made in 1995 and again USAF offered AIM120A from USAF stocks.

vlix, no I am not implying that anyone is giving away military secrets LOL



http://kypros.org/Occupied_Cyprus/lambousa/

There are some wrong information outthere. First all AMRAAMs must be in AIM-120B. But there might be American AIM-120A aids. Also there are lots of AIM-120s avalible in Incirlik base, ready to use for TAF. So there are more then "offical" 300+ AIM-120B missile.

You cannot use AMERICAN AIM 120 in Incirlic!!!!

Like we cannot use the hell of ammo the americans have in Suda base.

Jeez!