According to today's Dimokratia newspaper (a reliable source on military affairs in my view), the leaders of the Armed Forces have visited sensitive military units (Marines, Commandos, Naval units) to boost morale on the eve of a major military crisis with Turkey with reagrds to Cyprus and the recent conflict with Israel.



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ante kai me ti niki afti ti fora, min afisete routhouni apo ta mongolika mounakia.



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This time the Greek military leadership is superb, we are counting on them. Unfortunately, it is the political leadership which is weaker than the circumstances, let's hope they listen to the Generals voice and avoid any f@ck-ups.

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the political leadership is consisted by cowards and traitors but if  they get the final and unconditional support by uncle sam and the cooperation of israelis they will play the game either they like it or not

mongolia will be in a big trouble then

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yeah gays are going to attack turkiye this time,

cause they have a alliance with jews and eu and usa

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if gayriks have a tiny digity ,i hope they will try to do something this time

" Our hellenic navy will crush turks. We already started our preparations for assault by canibilazing a frigate and retiring 3 la combanantante boats. till end of year we will canibilaze or retire entire nvy and turks will find no boat to sink. that wil be the biggest victory in history of hellas my comrades"

To the Turks..





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At least HN does not operate Kartal-class FAC, Terrebone Parish LST or KNOX Frigates, Mustafa.

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Greek Military is set on increased military alert


haha as if that has any meaning to Cypriots

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Turkiye Turklerindir (Mustafa Kemal Ataturk)

the meaning is that you will have to face our forces too instead of the Americans and the Isrealis you are in a big shvit and you dont have the shoes for it thank your prime minister and your minister of foreign affairs for putting you into this trouble

Mongolian navy will be decimated for sure.

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"Having more soldiers in war does not give absolute superiority. Never advance recklessly by sheer force, but concentrate your troops through a correct assessment of the enemy's disposition and you will defeat the enemy. ---->He who lacks careful thought and strategy and underestimates the enemy will surely be captured by the opponent.
Sun Tzu

My dear Turks we can hardly wait for you to crush us

If the start a war right now they must be insane, Turkish planes will falling from sky like fly's down, they lack on many thinks on the moment.





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Quote "Greek Military is set on increased military alert


haha as if that has any meaning to Cypriots" Quote






Greece has nothing to lose this time " A wounded animal is very dangerous!! Don't forget that Turks!

What a diversion this would be for George and the EU.

What more could unify the EU family than this and what more could rid you Turks out of the EU for good as you are proving that you dont belong yourselves!

If you had a government with any sense instead of beating your chests and helped unify Cyprus the oil/gas would be both Turkish Cypriot and Greek Cypriot.

Cyprus would then encourage your entry to the EU and oil could flow through Turkey from Cyprus.





RIP George Stephanou
http://george-savva-stephanou.gonetoosoon.org/

Turkish Army should take the initiative.
And launch a "Mediterranean" attack who will hit Isral, Hellas and Grik C.

Greek Cypriots army? No need to talk.
Greece has lost all its morale, it's from now on a humiliated Army.

The case of Jews make me think of... would-be issues.

They've an offensive Army. If we let them attack us, they can take the advantage.
Yet, if Turkey attacks, the Tsahal will be in bad situation, because it's not a defensive army.

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Offensive morale and defensive morale, what a serious argument to predict who's gonna lose or win a war. I really hope your generals have more brain

the moral is going to be extremely high this time , after our current financial difficulties which we face we have nothing to loose during a conflict , if you think that our moral will be low and you bet on it you will probably get dissapointed



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"Greece has lost all its morale, it's from now on a humiliated Army."

Greek air force in all NATO exercises coming on first places, never before HAF was so strong and TUAF so weak.







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the problem is that how we ll attack tel aviv?



srbm=yldrm 2 range 300 km not enough
air =f16s they have more f16 plus newer f16 add 100 f15 excellent radar early warning patriot arrow2 spider air defence systems.


we need to give surprise plus lucky f16 attack in to jewish mainland.



airforce jews
navy turks
land turks(i know that jews has better armoured force but manpower plus fighting ability with new commando brigades gives us advantage.however we have no land connection with israel.syria must open and support its land.but if turkish commando brigades can reach to jewish cities boku yediler
strategic missiles jews
international support if iran and egypt with hamas hizbullah later syria and jordan lebanon maybe saudis.jews has bad luck

Greece isn't a problem.
A simple mechanized, land assault from Eastern Thrace would be sufficient Hellas to be K.O.
And Turkish planes shelling the Aegean islands... That'd be sufficient.
Like I said, Turkey should take the initiative and attack first.

In the case of the real problem, the Tsahal, things are much more difficult. They've the best pilots in the world, and an aircraft lot of +900 planes.
They're clearly an offensive army.
They've won in 1966, because they've been the ones launching the attack.
Yet, when Arabs attacked first in 1973, it's been clear that they can lose.

If you force the Israeli Army to a defensive battle, it'd waste.

Beside, there's also the Hizbullah factor threatening the North of Israel.
Just imagine that Turkey gives them some rockets and they start to shell Haifa with them and Turkish submarines circle the Israeli coasts.


Anyway, Turkey won't let them and Greek C. to drill gas and oil.

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i like it when the enemy is overconfident as it is the case with your generals and your politicians, im not talking about you your opinion does not matter anyway

this is when disaster strikes because overconfidence leads to stupidity and mistakes.

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Turkos,


I find it highly comical that you morons actually think you can take on Greece, Israel, Cyprus simultaneously while the PKK alone has been handing your azzes on a plate month after month. The fact of the matter is that in such a war you will lose in less than a month. The US intelligence services and spy networks will know your every move and this information will be passed onto us.

Most of you must be 14-18, because you have no comprehension of politics. So let me make this clear for you. In case of a conflict the USA will side 100% with Greece, Cyprus, and Israel for historical and cultural reasons.

You are a Muslim country which supports Hamas and has dealings with Iran. There is nothing else to say.

In case of conflict your fake country will be carved up and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it.

1974 was the cold war and USA needed Turkey, but now you are not important any more to them. Even Russia have take the side of Cyprus, lol.





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USA need Turkey more than ever.
Just imagine if Turkey threatens to leave its side and befriend Chinese interests.

Don't forget the Iran factor out here.
If Turkey and Israel fight, for sure the Hizbullah will hit Northern Israel. Islamist Kurds could also fight Pkk, if Pkk attempts to attack Turkey.

This month, Mahmud Abbas will declare the independence of Palestine.
We'll see what's gonna happen.



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USA already have promise to the Kurds a country, so they have a base close to Iran for the future.






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TC,


The United States of America will NEVER EVER ABANDON Israel. The USA does not "need" you. It occupies Iraq and Afghanistan and can create a Kurdish state tomorrow if they wanted to. Your country is nothing more than an Islamic troublemaker in the region and you will soon pay the price.

Your hubris is intolerable...

If not Turkish support, the US couldn't even keep Afghanistan (Turkish soldiers police Kabil and Talibans don't dare to attack them - moralic issues).

Usa are under Israeli pressure (financial especially). Yet Israelis don't have any advantage to offer Americans; they're just a burden upon American shoulders.
However Turkey is a strong American ally, who enables them to penetrate in the Caucasus, Central Asia (& Middle East).

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Like some turds in here do not understand.


America=Israel

Israel=America



I love how Karagiozi Erdogan and Malaka Davatoglu have messed things up, and the funny thing it's not even a Greek Turkish matter, but picking a beef with Israel.


I love this neo-ottoman nonsense.

All we need is Karagiozi Erdogan to revert Turkish writting back to using the Arabic script before it was changed by Ataturk, and you will fit in nicely with your camel jock neighbors.

you dont get it dont you, you are a supposed ally along as you dont directly contradict their interests try to do it and you will become their worst enemy next and thats exactly what you did when you said that you will not allow Americans to search for energy sources

you threatend the pimp with war, the pimp laughs at your face for your stupidity and says back to your face

try to do something and we will be there, you also did something else extremely stupid you messed with Israel so you pissed off Americans even more

for them whatever advantages your potential cooperation might have now belong to the past, they view you now as a troublemaker and threat for their interests and the stability in the area including the safety of Israel

they will beat you and they will beat you hard if you try to do something against American companies or Israel

the Gcs entrapped your stupid political leadership by cooperating with the Americans and Israelis and you got your selves in a big trouble, now it depends to your political and military leaders if your bravado will lead to even worst consequences as the destruction of your navy and the anihhilation of your armed forces.

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If not Turkish support, the US couldn't even keep Afghanistan

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Lol, they ask to enter Turkey to going attack Irak in the war with Husein and you refused, but they have occupied without your help anyway. That means to be a NATO allied, friends only in bad times you see the honest of them. America don't forget Turks.






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Hey people,

All these matters are secondary issues, we're talking about "would-be" future facts.

What's today the problem?
That's the Judeo-Cypriot intention to drill gas from the Med sea.
And Turkey threatened to send the navy.

Here's the question:
Could they dare to drill, or not?

I bet that not!

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The Mediterranean on fire

Ankara seems to have adopted a certain rhetoric which inaugurates a period of tension. The Turkish government is threatening to use even military force in order to cancel Cyprus˘ decision to start drilling for natural gas. Egemen Bagis, the vice-president of the Turkish government, has said his country is even ready to dispatch its navy so as to block Cyprus˘ plans, statements which Athens characterized as threatening.

At the moment, this is a very unsatisfactory development which is also causing concern because of the latest breach in Turkish-Israeli relations, as all drills will be co-funded by American and Israeli companies.

To Turkey, the fact that Athens and Tel Aviv decided to reinforce their military cooperation is a very upsetting factor. Moreover, on Sunday the Greek Defence minister Panos Beglitis will visit Israel and have talks with his Israeli counterpart, Ehud Barak, and other high-ranking officials of the country. He is expected to sign military deals and discuss the final details before Athens buys the Spice missiles. Also, Beglitis and Barak will finalize the common air force exercise programme of the next six months.

The present juncture of the sudden improvement of Greek-Israeli relations has not gone unnoticed, let alone the fact that on the day the Greek minister will be visiting Israel, the Israeli ambassador to Ancara will be heading home after Turkey decided to downgrade its diplomatic relations with the country.

For now, Washington and Moscow are vowing to stay on Cyprus˘ side, being fully supportive of the island government˘s decisions to move forward with the drillings, while at the same time nobody can say if Turkey wishes to become totally autonomous and ignore recommendations coming from the American and Russian sides.

According to Proto Thema newspaper information, a Turkish boat is in the area between the Greek islands of Kos and Rhodes right now, looking for natural gas, but for the moment it is sailing inside Turkish territorial waters.

What interests specialists the most is whether Turkey will try to create a diversion in order to stop or at least suspend the drilling.

The Greek ministry of Foreign Affairs has issued a statement saying that the neighbouring country is behaving in an alarming manner, which could lead to the destabilization of the area in the eastern part of the Mediterranean Sea.

On this occasion, the Greek Foreign Affairs ministry is also underlining the fact that Cyprus is free and entitled to exploit its natural wealth in accordance with International Law.
http://www.defencegreece.com/index.php/2011/09/the-mediterranean-is-on-fire/






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with the head of the army beheaded
with no usa and israel help
with pkk on the door step(sorry in the house)
with turkish general opinion that turkish army is incapable and leave their gun behind


turks still underestimate their enemy






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""Maniots, known for their martial qualities, were the first to join the Greek liberation movement. The society called the Filiki Eteria ("Company of Friends") sent their representatives Perrevos and Chrisospathis to organize the Maniots. On March 17, 1821, 12,000 Maniots gathered in the church of Taxiarchs (Archangels) of Areopoli and declared war against the Ottoman Empire. The flag of the revolution was white with a blue cross in the center. On top of the flag there was a sign, "Victory or death". The Maniots were responsible for writing "Victory" and not "Freedom" on their banner since Mani was always free. On the bottom of the flag lied an ancient inscription, "With the shield or on the shield."
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something to Griks..

Nobody mentioned this in the forum, but Israeli minister said:


"there is no chance that we could come against each other on the sea"

means: We do not have the balls to provoke turkish navy, we will not help cyprus on their drilling.


---> who will help Cyprus on drilling ? Israel cannot secure your drilling anymore, US won't do any chit.. they cannot risk to lose turkey in the region at the moment..

They're investing $ 1bln in the X-Band radars of anti missile shield.

Noble is scared, US will not help this little country...



IN THE END, YOU WILL BE SCARED AND WILL NOT START TO DRILL... OR TURKISH NAVY WILL RAM EVERY PLATFORM OF YOU ONE BY ONE !!!


Maybe NOW you understand Why erdogan takes this steps against israel.. everything for natural ressources !

AND as a byproduct he gets leader of the muslim world... He will secure that by going to Gaza soon...

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seafarting nation indeed.. reconaissance fishing boat watching TurAF F-16's !

Yvan Eht Nioj Kirg

^^^^a greek pontiac converted speak for turkish glory...muahahaha

trapezounta will wake up for the new era...you should wake up as well



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""Maniots, known for their martial qualities, were the first to join the Greek liberation movement. The society called the Filiki Eteria ("Company of Friends") sent their representatives Perrevos and Chrisospathis to organize the Maniots. On March 17, 1821, 12,000 Maniots gathered in the church of Taxiarchs (Archangels) of Areopoli and declared war against the Ottoman Empire. The flag of the revolution was white with a blue cross in the center. On top of the flag there was a sign, "Victory or death". The Maniots were responsible for writing "Victory" and not "Freedom" on their banner since Mani was always free. On the bottom of the flag lied an ancient inscription, "With the shield or on the shield."
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"there is no chance that we could come against each other on the sea"

Of course not they have a strong air force.







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The USA can't interfere.
If they do, the US would directly lose all its advantages in the Caucasus for instance.
Turkey would "give" all control over Georgia to Russia; and the last remnant of the Orange revolution would be lost as well.

Israel has planes but not enough fighting ships.
They can't answer to a Turkish attack against drilling platforms.

So Hellenes, it's nice to dream; and you'll stay with that.
When you'll wake up, you'll get upset

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330+ F-16, 80+ F-15 don't count upgraded F-4 and other aircrafts, lol. Attack helicopter 45 Apache, 40 AH-1, lol.





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"Of course not they have a strong air force. "

No, He said we will not come together with turkish navy ships, we do not think that TN will come together with the "aid ships"

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seafarting nation indeed.. reconaissance fishing boat watching TurAF F-16's !

Yvan Eht Nioj Kirg

It depends on the Israel's attitude. If IDF decides to protect the oil drilling efforts, Turkey can do nothing. Contrary to many, I believe Israeli officer and soldier quality to be in a very steep decay. But still their missiles are top quality and Turkish ships will be practice targets for them.

I think we bluffed with our hands open. Israel will definetely destroy the Turkish ships in the vicinity if they decide to protect the oil drillings. And I think Greece will not even need to ignite the tanks.

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330+ F-16, 80+ F-15 don't count upgraded F-4 and other aircrafts, lol. Attack helicopter 45 Apache, 40 AH-1, lol.

It is not the sheer number of 3rd Gen fighters. It is their fantastic missile, EW and other avionics technologies that will wipe Turkey. Not even our generals believe that we can achieve a tactical victory in East Med against Israel.

Davutoglu can believe whatever he wants. He can not even differ ASELPOD tageting pod and ISraelis high-end LOROP recce pod.

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It depends on the Israel's attitude. If IDF decides to protect the oil drilling efforts, Turkey can do nothing. Contrary to many, I believe Israeli officer and soldier quality to be in a very steep decay. But still their missiles are top quality and Turkish ships will be practice targets for them.

I think we bluffed with our hands open. Israel will definetely destroy the Turkish ships in the vicinity if they decide to protect the oil drillings. And I think Greece will not even need to ignite the tanks

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IDF doesnt or will not give a fck for fcked greeks.Israel doesnt want to break relations with Turkey even going to islamic regime.

Cyprus is far to Greece 700km
Cyprus is far to Turkey 60km

some aircrafts does not have external fuel tanks HAF cant fly to even cyprus.

WE will FCK YOU.
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LOL The idiocy of Turks knows no bounds! Israeli military is offensive and can't defend?? lol This is a country that's surrounded by enemies and has been attacked repeatedly and won each time. It's designed entirely for defense, and limited pre-emptive offenses. But more importantly, if Turkey goes to war with Israel and Greece, that immediately makes an enemy of the US. And that's suicide.

Greece supports Cyprus's position, Israel supports Cyprus's position, America supports Cyprus's position, Russia supports Cyprus's position. NOBODY supports Turkey's position. Idiot Turks want to take on the whole world. lol Try it and see just how much America "needs" you. lol

When you are talking about energy that can be used by the USA they don't give a phuck about Turdgay.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/248068/thread/1315244395/last-1315294224/Israel+Cancelled+Exercise+With+Greece!!+RUN+Grecoman+Run

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