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PKK Keko Hunter - T-129 Atak - Specially developed to hunt animals

January 18 2012 at 11:44 PM
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The mission computer developed by Aselsan is able to identify the humans from armed animals called PKK, its net members like SOR hidden under some politic excuses to curse Turkey and achievements. :P The images taken by AselFlir-300T is processed by specially developed softwares to find the best target to kick their arses with Cirit missiles... happy.gif

Wait T-129 along with ANKA in Mountains SOR aka PKK keko. Avarage life span of a PKK member against Turkish Army is 2 years. You will be welcomed to be one of them as well. If you really wanna taste the quality of Turkish developed weapons, Become a live target similar with your monkey cousins mate. Barking about Turkish engineering of art products on net doesn't make any sense... Check the in field... happy.gif








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January 19 2012, 12:55 AM 

will we get this summer the first nine A129 as stop gap? when will we get the T129 again? man i cant wait this takes so long...

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January 19 2012, 1:02 AM 

Is there any information if the first batch of 9 helis will have indigenious capability I mean mounted with cirit and umtas :D

 
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January 19 2012, 6:48 AM 

^^
If you don't mind.. i'll take this question..

Yes, the first batch of "indigenous" helicopters will be armed with NOT the cirit or utmas but rather the kofte and the shishkebab-2000 and each will deliver a unique dining experience to the brave and noble Kurdish freedom fighters.. who have dined off the Turks inability to suppress their just uprising for the past 40 years and probably for the next 40 as well..

You Turko's sure know how to dish out punishment to the Kurds.. (LOL)




 
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January 20 2012, 2:12 PM 

bro'man! thx for the thread. i am huge fan of you... you should start going public soon. Turkey need a media figuer in defence matters. Mr Bayar is a good candidate, but i would like to see as a turkish "mack from future weapons"

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January 21 2012, 4:58 PM 

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Davutolu also said they wanted South Korea to participate in Turkeys Atak helicopter project. Kim Sung-hwan, South Koreas foreign affairs and trade minister, said a delegation would visit Turkey soon in quest of finding goods South Korea could trade at home.January/21/2012




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January 21 2012, 5:05 PM 

Don't be happy Gayreeks, Despite Atak is specially developed to hunt the armed animals walking on Turkey's mountains called assymetric warfare, It is a perfect Gayreek hunter thanks to max. 12 UMTAS AT missile carrigae capability, State of art Cirit missiles, Air to air missile payload and MMW radar called "GAYDAR" in Greek, "MILDAR" in Turkish.. wink.gif

It is a Turkish monster... Atak happy.gif

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January 21 2012, 5:09 PM 

Why twelve ?

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January 21 2012, 5:21 PM 

"Why twelve ?"

Each station is able to carry max. 250-300kg payload but Noone wants to test the limits of an attack helicopter in a real operation...

ATak has 4 payload in both wing means max. 1200kg payload...


4 UMTAS + Roketsan smart launcher weight: 210kg
2 UMTAS + Roketsan Smart Launcher Weight : 135kg

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Only Missile Weight: 345kg for one wing + some other electronics... (?)




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January 21 2012, 5:26 PM 

@Kebabali

You talk all the time about the Greeks and your tiny helicopter. Have you ever think about what means to have a Longbow radar and data modem on the Apaches installed? Properly not......


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January 21 2012, 5:30 PM 

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January 21 2012, 5:30 PM 

Gayureek,

You order Longbow radar without having any idea about What is it for...
Turkey develop own Longbow radar to detect/kick yourarse from so long ranges thanks to MMW guided UMTAS AT missile being under development.

That's our differences... Is it neccessary to talk about more ? happy.gif

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January 21 2012, 5:34 PM 

You need more examples from other programs ? Gayreek :D

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January 21 2012, 5:34 PM 

"That's our differences... Is it neccessary to talk about more "

Brainwashed idiot, Greece have the radars right now what are you talking about again. Remind you the 1000 tanks from 1995, oh where are they? Still on development status?

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January 21 2012, 5:39 PM 

Indeed Gayreek ordered some Longbow but Where is your missiles Longbow is able to guide for ? happy.gif or You have been ordering your devices for a perfect technological beanfeast for mices as always ? happy.gif

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January 21 2012, 5:46 PM 

With Longbow radar you see all targets around you and behind the hills, so the Apache(Longbow with radar) can transmit targets to other DHA Apaches via data modem. So they have a big advantage to know the enemy before rising ab from the trees or hills. The clue is all Apaches DHA with the modem share targets and informations on battlefield. Conclusion, we don't need so emergency the L variant from Hellfire, we mark the top of the hill with the laser and wait to rise the Turkish attack helicopter to shoot the missiles, because we know from radar somebody is there. Turks com up the hill looking around until find some target and this takes minutes and will be to late because you have bin shot down in the meantime.

So knowing where the enemy appears, no necessary to use 114L Longbow radar guided missiles, lol.


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January 21 2012, 5:56 PM 

With this way, Without MMW missiles, It is understood that You would be the first nation that will use an Heavy armed Anti-Tank helicopter for surveillance-recognaisance missions like light helicopters. happy.gif It is really cost effective solution for a bankrupt nation... happy.gif



Flying Apache + Longbow without correct missile system is just a waste of time and extra load but correct way for postcard armies...



Hmmm USA orders light helicopters for surveillance missions instead of taking off heavy Apache gunships with long-bow Why ? I think Gayreeks has to enlighten their ways with their brillant ideas. happy.gif

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January 21 2012, 6:03 PM 

"Hmmm USA orders light helicopters for surveillance missions instead of taking off heavy Apache gunships with long-bow Why ? I think Gayreeks has to enlighten their ways with their brillant ideas."

You have think long time for this stupid answer after your bitchslap?




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January 21 2012, 6:10 PM 

@kebabali

Have only a few Apache Longbow with radar is not necessary to order L variant, because they cannot be fired by AH-64D without the longbow radar.


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January 21 2012, 6:27 PM 

Also counties like Holland with a inventory of 30 "D" Apaches never placed order of L missiles because they don't needed without having radars.

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January 21 2012, 6:28 PM 

Gayreek,

As the response of yours clearly revealed that Apache with Longbow is a perfect solution for your postcard army but only in parades. At real operations, The troops detect the trgets for engagement. If you don't have the proper toys to engage the target you detected thanks to Milimetric waves, No need to carry it at your top... If you have an aim to use heavy apaches as recognaissance surveillance helo, You choosed wrong copter for this mission idiot... If you clams that Targets detected by longbow can be neutralized by IIR guided missiles, USe your electro-optics, otherwise, Only idiots who don't have any idea What A Longbow used for, orders them without correct missiles... It isn't new. You are a nation who ordered submarines without torpedos, tanks without ammos...etc so Nothing new in here... happy.gif

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January 21 2012, 6:36 PM 

@Kebabali

I ask you different. Why you copy/paste Fartinas not use 155mm special ammunitions like the Greeks? They don't needed?

SMArt 155

SMArt 155 is a German 155 mm artillery round, designed for a long range, indirect fire top attack role against armoured vehicles. The SMArt carrier shell contains two submunitions, which descend over the battlefield on ballutes and attack hardened targets with explosively formed penetrator warheads. Built with multiple redundant self-destruct mechanisms, these submunitions were specifically designed to fall outside the category of submunition weapons prohibited by the 2008 Convention on Cluster Munitions.

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The Krasnopol-M is handled, loaded and fired in exactly the same manner as a conventional artillery projectile. Unlike the longer original Krasnopol, the M model does not require assembly. This is said to increase the rate of fire by a factor of 1.5 to 2.0. The other main difference between the two is that the basic Krasnopol uses rocket assist to boost range, while the M model uses base-bleed. The Krasnopol-M has six switches on the outside of the projectile: two for time of flight to discard of the ballistic cap, one for the glide/ballistic mode, two for frequency setting, and one for quick or delay fuze. Once a target has been detected by a forward observer, the target information co-ordinates are transmitted to the battery command post. Gun-barrel elevation and direction angles are transmitted to the gun position, and the forward observer is alerted. The gun is then fired, and the initial leg of the trajectory is carried out using a normal ballistic path, a base-bleed motor cutting in 7 seconds after the projectile muzzle, or 0.3 seconds for missiles modified for use in cold, high-altitude conditions. As the projectile approaches the target, the forward observer illuminates the target using a laser designator. The seeker in the nose of the projectile locks on to the illuminated target, and the projectile guidance electronics make the necessary flight corrections to guide the projectile towards the target. Nose fins are used for guidance, with a tail-fin assembly providing flight stabilisation.
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January 21 2012, 6:39 PM 

Instead of bitching to change the subject, Try to find a correct excuse for your surveillance Apaches, or Enjoy with your ownage. If you really want to talk about smart munitions and Firtina howitzers, Open a new thread and the members who wants to talk about them may respond...

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January 21 2012, 6:45 PM 

Facts are Turks have 60s Cobra right now and discus here why we not use 114L missiles on our Apaches. So once again for idiots, knowing where the enemy appears to shoot with normal Hellfire II missiles, is necessary to use 114L Longbow radar guided missiles? lol.


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January 21 2012, 7:00 PM 

Also to mentioned The few AH-64DHA with Longbow radar will be behind the normal "D" models because of the high value. With the data modem the helicopter will supply the others "D" Apaches in the front line with targets from radar, but like I say the normal AH-64DHA can not shoot 114L missiles, so not necessary to buy if you have the newest Hellfires II and the older ones missiles from "A+" Apache in your inventory.


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January 21 2012, 7:16 PM 

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January 21 2012, 7:22 PM 

Stupid Cabatli you still fly with AGM-71 TOW, you know wire guided with 3,750 m range, and dare to mock our AH-64D/AGM-114K combination?

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January 21 2012, 8:23 PM 

Imbeciles,

Noone discusses Gayreeks not to use MMW guided missiles but stupideness of claiming to use a heavy attack helicopter as surveillance light copter and availibility of postcard Longbow radars without having engagement capability against targets detected by milimeter waves.



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January 21 2012, 8:29 PM 

Noone clamed that Cobra's are 21. century gunship They are old indeed but What's the reason of talking about Cobra's in a thread reflecting the stupid postcard procurement strategy of Gayreeks ?

What about Tow launchers ? They are empty in your picture but That means Missiles can't be integrateable for you ? Turkey is able to integrate not only 3500m wire guided TOW missiles but also state of art 8000m UMTAS missiles mate so Don't worry about it. Not only Missiles, but also atack helicopter and your famous longbow radar have been developed by Turkish engineers. If you really want to fqck with something, You are in wrong adress happy.gif

Look at this What Cobra is launching happy.gif

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January 21 2012, 8:44 PM 

The long and the short of it, We develop What you dream, Greeks.
-You are the one begging USA to order Longbow radar without having idea What It is for, can dream MMW guided missiles and can't find money for upgrading of your Apaches but We are the one that is able to develop all of them.

but What I see in your statements that You can't step back to f@@ck with Turkey's current position without looking your desperate situation... A littile bit shame please...

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January 21 2012, 9:00 PM 

Again, You know Gayreeks, When It comes to VSHORAD engagement, Turkey is the one Your gunship pilots can never want to face with...


Hundreds of Atlgan and Zipkin systems in Aselsan's network centric warfare environment is able to hunt tens of helicopters simultaneously... It isn't important Where the threat will approach to Turkish side... Sometimes, I like making fun with imbeciles like you in WAFF but That's not a joke...


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January 22 2012, 8:47 AM 

Stupid Turk what are you talking about? Turkish SAM umbrella is nothing compared to Greece, so the only worth Turks have is the homemade Stinger platforms for launch, a box with 4 holes to put the Stingers inside, lol. The other think is Greece producing parts for the missile, that is the point and not the box to fire the system...
Our SAM umbrella covers targets above 150 km and Turks talk and they are proud about few meters launch missiles, lol.

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January 22 2012, 11:41 AM 






in iris-t greece role is 'Explosive fragmentation warhead designed and built by Greece's GPCC' that is what makes 13 per cent happy.gif dont laugh ....greece's experience in shaping soft feta like products was the reason that job given to greece. happy.gif even kids can do. just to make greeks feel they are something happy.gif


The co-production of the European IRIS-T Air to Air missile, by manufacturing the warhead and the safety & arming device of the missile.
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January 22 2012, 11:46 AM 

George, neither Nike-Hercule or MIM-104 Patriot are aimed towards helicopter threats. Both Greeks and Turks need to worry mostly about Stinger and its derivatives as well as AAA's especially 35mm ones.

 
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January 22 2012, 11:56 AM 

This is a menacing threat for helos as it gives no RWR warning plus it is day/night system.
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January 22 2012, 12:10 PM 

f all goes well would we develope a heavy attack chopper.

 
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January 22 2012, 12:41 PM 

"George, neither Nike-Hercule or MIM-104 Patriot are aimed towards helicopter threats. Both Greeks and Turks need to worry mostly about Stinger and its derivatives as well as AAA's especially 35mm ones."

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January 22 2012, 12:53 PM 

"in iris-t greece role is 'Explosive fragmentation warhead designed and built by Greece's GPCC' that is what makes 13 per cent dont laugh ....greece's experience in shaping soft feta like products was the reason that job given to greece. even kids can do. just to make greeks feel they are something"

First, I was not talking about Iris-t but of the Stinger missile. Anyway you are wrong with Iris-t, they are more companies in Greece involved in the program.

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January 22 2012, 12:54 PM 

Turks are afraid too much these days, it is preferable to behave like normal people rather than lose most of their helicopters and crews in a conflict with Greece.

IMHO, they will fly so damn low they will avoid radar detection from TOR-M1 and Crotale NG but they will fall into the trap of low altitude anti-aircraft artillery.

Those low cost weapons will take their toll too


Especially this one

 
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Re: PKK Keko Hunter - T-129 Atak - Specially developed to hunt animals

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January 22 2012, 1:16 PM 

Yes we are shaking for fear against the mighty economic power Greece! lol

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Re: PKK Keko Hunter - T-129 Atak - Specially developed to hunt animals

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January 22 2012, 3:25 PM 



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Re: PKK Keko Hunter - T-129 Atak - Specially developed to hunt animals

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January 22 2012, 3:42 PM 

Keko pkk, Don't worry T-129 will fill your arse with bullets like your monkey cousins...


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Re: PKK Keko Hunter - T-129 Atak - Specially developed to hunt animals

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January 22 2012, 4:26 PM 


revenge of cukurca and also a little reminder for greeks.




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Re: PKK Keko Hunter - T-129 Atak - Specially developed to hunt animals

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January 22 2012, 6:28 PM 

SMArt 155 ?

I thougt Greece has no munition to firering his tank or phz? I read this in a newspaper.

 
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Re: PKK Keko Hunter - T-129 Atak - Specially developed to hunt animals

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June 30 2012, 10:28 AM 

Keko Hunter on Action


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Re: PKK Keko Hunter - T-129 Atak - Specially developed to hunt animals

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June 30 2012, 10:29 AM 

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Re: PKK Keko Hunter - T-129 Atak - Specially developed to hunt animals

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June 30 2012, 2:10 PM 


T-129 Navy AKANA


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Re: PKK Keko Hunter - T-129 Atak - Specially developed to hunt animals

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June 30 2012, 2:33 PM 

Cenk moron,stop sending 3D graphics to the Waff

fcking child

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