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How will cyprus strike back?

April 29 2012 at 3:31 AM
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Aietus  (Login Aietuss)
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As what was reported earlier, turkey has begun to drill for oil in the north(and for the record there is oil all over cyprus and not just in the south and off shore)
If turkey does strike oil/gas and chances are she will what will the cyprus republic do?
now we all know that ankara will say that im only a subcontractor and the T'cyps are the masters but turkey will be complicit at a minimum as her part will involve,drilling,extraction,transportation,processing,selling and consumption.
well,i have a theory of my own as to what will happen and it will devastate turkey so much that she will be forced into an all out war.
i believe that cyprus will besides issueing complaints and filling in the usual paperwork also take it up with the world trade organisation,the eu supreme court and will be succesful in
1.issueing fines to turkey
2.succesfully sueing for damages
3.succesfully forcing an eu boycott
4.imposing economic sanctions against turkey
5.expanding the above so as it wont just be the eu vs turkey but through the WTO to expand it beyond.

i forsee hard times ahead for turkey.infact i doubt that ankara has thought through the implications of her actions.i doubt that turkey has seen past the monetary value of the crude.
now before some of you say that there isnt oil in the north it would be wise to recall that oil was struck in lefkoniko/rizokarpaso before 1974(was in late 1973) and geological samples were taken off the coast of kyrenia that indicated not only the potential for oil but also iron,gold and other metals.

In short i believe we are entering the terminal phase of the cyprus issue with turkey.
there are other events that have to come to pass in order to propel the above scenario and the main event is the next war in the middle east(iran) this will provide the impetus for turkey to pull out all stops so this thread will come to pass.
even though some of you could in a way be correct in saying that turkey is only dabbling in showmanship and has no real desire to extract oil, the skyrocketing oil price to follow the next mid east war and the short flow as a result will force turkeys ambition to extract and then?

 
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April 29 2012, 3:45 AM 

"If turkey does strike oil/gas and chances are she will what will the cyprus republic do? "

Throw hallumi cheese at us! [linked image]

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April 29 2012, 3:53 AM 

not halloumi jack, but a loukaniko,horizontaly inserted. happy.gif

 
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April 29 2012, 4:02 AM 

"not halloumi jack, but a loukaniko,horizontaly inserted"

Be nice...[linked image] [linked image] [linked image] [linked image] [linked image] [linked image]

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April 29 2012, 4:09 AM 

i was nice ,it could have been a chilie garlic pastourma happy.gif




p.s why cant i post youtubr clips anymore?
some page comes up saying i need pre 54 approval
as certain words raise alarm bells,damn echelon system lol

 
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April 29 2012, 4:09 AM 

Hundrets (Thousand) of 70 MT most modern MBT, Tens of brand new and fully upgraded Frigates, tens of latest Submarine Force, fully owned attack helicopters, hundrets of CCIP Upgraded F-16s and F-35s, state of art UAVs (UCAVS in near future) and around 75+ Million "born soldier" havent fought for almost a century in a real war...etc... is always better than;

1.issueing fines to turkey
2.succesfully sueing for damages
3.succesfully forcing an eu boycott


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April 29 2012, 4:12 AM 

babybeach, Hitler thought the same way.
turkey will attack cyprus and capture the entire island but just like hitler in europe , turkey will bite off more than she can chew.its not always how you start off but more like how you finish up.
turkey will be in shock,this i promise.

 
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April 29 2012, 4:15 AM 

"turkey will be in shock,this i promise."

Will you eat your hot pastirma if you break your promise? After I'm finished with it ofcourse!

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April 29 2012, 4:18 AM 

not if its been up you know where,lol

jack if im wrong i'll become a turk even LMAO!

p.s wont happen!

 
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April 29 2012, 4:20 AM 

"not if its been up you know where,lol

jack if im wrong i'll become a turk even LMAO!

p.s wont happen!"

Good to see you have a sense of humour malaka...[linked image]

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April 29 2012, 4:21 AM 

Hitler was an idiot who tried to occupy the whole Russia while fighting WĘTH the whole western world. Neither Turkey is Nazi Germany, nor you are Russia.

While Greece was progressing her whinning technics, Turkey was progressing her defence technology. So finally technology will win, the stronger will survive, I will drive my car with KKTC oil.

^^Thats the reality.

Now keep discussing your sue arguments with your emotional friends.



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April 29 2012, 4:28 AM 

yes jacko,you know me well enough that i have a sense of humour,,so do you.you are unique
there are many esekoglus in this world but only one that is you my friend.



babybeach,if hitler was an idiot than whats that make erdogan,davutoglu heh?
dont worry,i got pastourma for them too happy.gif

 
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April 29 2012, 4:41 AM 

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1.issueing fines to turkey
2.succesfully sueing for damages
3.succesfully forcing an eu boycott
4.imposing economic sanctions against turkey
5.expanding the above so as it wont just be the eu vs turkey but through the WTO to expand it beyond.
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My question is ...

If Cyprus and Greeks had the power to do this all ready .

Why not use it during our time in the island for over 40 years ... rather wait for us to start drills .

Is the real issue the integrity of the island . Or rather just oil.



Cyprus may implement whatever they want . None will be successful . They have tried all of the above you mention.
Let alone Cyprus doesnt have the political nor economical power to implement the boycotts and sanctions you are mentioning .

Turkish government is serious about the drills . Whenever we find the source of the oil we shall drill it dry ...

Like i have said . None of the actions you mention could be pulled by Cyprus ...nor even would make difference.

Turkiye is serious about Cyprus issue and this has been expressed to EU as Turkiye shall stop EU membership process during Cyprus's leadership period.

You see that is a serious boycott ...WHY?

you may ask ooh who needs turkiye ..we dont want them anyway ...its better that they give up themselves...

however severing ties with EU doesnt mean only membership ...but rather many other projects EU wants Turkiye to join to .. for example weapons projects and the weapons we buy .

Who do you think France will call for when they start an operation to Syria? They will call for bankrupt Greece?
Turkiye is more important to EU than you give credit for . We know it ...EU knows it .. US knows it even Russia knows it ... perhaps you are the only one that doesnt know ...with the wet Cyprus dreams.

We will simply get closer to US than ever ...and buy whatever we need from them. this is a serious loss for Germany and France .



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April 29 2012, 5:51 AM 

My question is ...
If Cyprus and Greeks had the power to do this all ready .
Why not use it during our time in the island for over 40 years ... rather wait for us to start drills .

Is the real issue the integrity of the island . Or rather just oil.


///cyprus has not always had this power,there was no eu with cyprus as a member,western interests were against us and pro ankara,oil was not on the cards.Turkey was not an aspiring candidate to join. in short the world was not 40 years ago as is today.the republic wanted to and still does prefer to solve its national issue in a peaceful way.during the last few years our defence expenditure was placed on the backburner in order not to distract from the peace talks as turkey would have cried foul and used it as a pretext.cyprus did however go as far as to force turkey to begin paying punitive damages to individuals and this continues and turkey has being paying.
this is about the integrity of the republic and oil,ie its ownership is recognised as a soverign asset.


Cyprus may implement whatever they want . None will be successful . They have tried all of the above you mention.
Let alone Cyprus doesnt have the political nor economical power to implement the boycotts and sanctions you are mentioning .

///No,we did not try all of the above. lets be clear on this.cyprus does not need to be powerful to win her day in court.the european courts unlike turkish legal matters are independent.european laws are clear and legally binding as have been proven in the past.Eu verdicts are independent,legaly binding and automaticaly imposed upon all eu member states.this is a pre requisite of all eu members states and all eu states have signed off on this.
If cyprus can prove theft and the eu courts agree and the oil is deemed as stolen goods then eu member states can and will have to forfeit buying this oil.if turkey continues selling or using the resource than the eu has the power to launch reprisal economic warfare against the turkish state as there are protocols cyprus and the eu signed off on in the energy chapters.



Turkish government is serious about the drills . Whenever we find the source of the oil we shall drill it dry ...

Like i have said . None of the actions you mention could be pulled by Cyprus ...nor even would make difference.
Turkiye is serious about Cyprus issue and this has been expressed to EU as Turkiye shall stop EU membership process during Cyprus's leadership period.
You see that is a serious boycott ...WHY?


///turkey is serious and cyprus isnt?,turkey can bark and threaten all she likes.the fact is turkey took the queens penny.she made promises and was granted alot to bring up her economy which was the major conflicting factors to the allaying of eu membership concerns.whether turkey suspends her membership or not during the cyprus presidency is debatable and i think false.turkey will have to deal with the eu bodies and ministries whether she likes it or not, though ofcourse does not imply recognition of cyprus.if turkey officialy breaks her promise to meet the criteria she signed off on and ceases to be a candidate the eu will act accordingly.do you honestly think america or asia will threaten their relationship with the eu you for turkey?
do not think your overnight economic succes as due to turkish brilliant handling,thank those that want turkey in the eu,that is those powerful interests groups that have their own motives.if you disappoint them then watch out.


you may ask ooh who needs turkiye ..we dont want them anyway ...its better that they give up themselves..
however severing ties with EU doesnt mean only membership ...but rather many other projects EU wants Turkiye to join to .. for example weapons projects and the weapons we buy .
Who do you think France will call for when they start an operation to Syria? They will call for bankrupt Greece?
Turkiye is more important to EU than you give credit for . We know it ...EU knows it .. US knows it even Russia knows it ... perhaps you are the only one that doesnt know ...with the wet Cyprus dreams.

We will simply get closer to US than ever ...and buy whatever we need from them. this is a serious loss for Germany and France


////you are wrong again,the eu (specifically the small and powerful interest group) does want turkey in the eu
they have invested alot for this end .even america wants turkey in the eu,why?.why did they invest in the eastern water resource and energy plan?,why is syria on the hitlist?,why is israel a member contender?
do not for one moment believe turkeys interests outweighs theirs,nor that turkey is more powerful than them,nor that turkey is so big that they cant dismember you.cyprus knows this and will use it.cyprus sold off on the eu.we are already part of their plan and strategy and its about time turkey figured it out.

 
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April 29 2012, 7:33 AM 

You are telling me Cyprus did not have this power before and suddenly cyprus is all powerful to implement these sanctions and embargo's ...so this comes from EU is it ? Power of Cyprus is from EU ? or the Oil and gas that they found in mediterranean. however mate you are missing a point ... they all ready take your oil ..and drilling at the moment . It isnt EU that gains from it but mostly ISRAEL... why would EU simply listen to Cyprus ..just because Cyprus will be the leader country of EU for some time? ...yeah sure.

Your economic warfare plans from EU is BIAS ..do you know why? because Cyprus does not have the power to implement these plans ..because we are a bigger ally to EU than CYPRUS Even the way they are in EU... We have more economical trade power , production and industry...

IF EU IMPLEMENTS A ECONOMICAL WARFARE ON TURKIYE ...THEY WOULD BE THE ONES THAT GET DAMAGED FROM IT ...

Mercedes would get damaged , Airbus would get damaged ... Nestle , BOSCH ...

THEY WILL GET DAMAGED ...and also not to forget ... who is going to buy German weapons ? French weapons ? Italian weapons?

bankrupt greece?
bunch of wannabe super power economical war strategist Cyprus?

You know your country is not the only country in the world with the oil nor thats the only gas left in the world...

Where is the eastern Europe's gas pipeline comes from?

yes Turkiye...

Where is the Nato missile shield base in ? Turkiye...

you believe EU will implement economical war on a country ...This important for their own economical integrity?

Mister aietus you are completely single minded and cannot think global for once a second .

Cyprus issue will be the least of Turkiye's problems in the upcoming years ...even in the time they will be the leader country in EU...

we have more pressing and urgent matters..on the other hand when the oil is found in the region . It will be used for KKTC and Turkiye alike . There is nothing cyprus can do but watch.


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April 29 2012, 8:50 AM 

Aietuss, I am sorry my friend but this is a stupid thread.
We all know there is not a single drop of oil or gas in Northern Cyprus.

Why did they not drill in 1975-2011? Why now? If there is a chance to find oil there, why did they not drill before?

Answer:
In 2011 they made absurd and ridiculous claims on the Exclusive Economic Zone of Cyprus. The Turkish bandits threatened war and tried to seize the property of others, as they had done in 1974, but this time they got their a$$es kicked, and were humiliated. So they are trying to save face and boost their damaged prestige by making these drills, which are presented as a retaliation against Cypriot gas drillings.

All oil and gas are at the sea.

While the Greeks and the Israelis will be sucking the huge CONFIRMED gas resources out of the East Mediterranean Sea, the Turks will be searching for non-existent oil in the occupied territories of Cyprus. Let us hope they will spend as much money as possible in their funny drilling endeavour.Let us also hope that they will not open too many holes and will not cause too much environmental disaster in the beautiful Mesaoria valley. When we recover it, we do not want to find a wasteland.

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April 29 2012, 10:29 AM 

Cyprus would be a peace of cake for the turkish airforce.


 
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April 29 2012, 10:41 AM 

Aietus you forget a key note.

EU is in shambless thanks to Greece (in fact the biggest enemy of Cyprus is Greece! With a friend like Greece Cyprus doesn't need enemies happy.gif)

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April 29 2012, 10:43 AM 

Aietus
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Re: How will cyprus strike back? April 29 2012, 4:18 AM

not if its been up you know where,lol

jack if im wrong i'll become a turk even LMAO!

p.s wont happen!

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You are already mate, but you parents hide it from you to integrate better in the scum hole you live in... Sorry to break this to you :P !

Just kidding bro, you are to dirty and lazy to be turk ! GO _BE A PROUD LAZY WORTHLESS GREEK ! :D

PS: Still kidding, on the bro and proud part, the rest is facts..

 
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April 29 2012, 11:00 AM 

Aietuss as you see there is no point in trying to discuss seriously with those Turkish "gentlemen". Their drilling for non-existent oil should generate laughter among us, not anger. Let us suck the colossal gas reserves of Cyprus EEZ at sea, let them comfort themselves by opening holes in occupied North Cyprus territory.

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April 29 2012, 11:20 AM 

trying to discuss seriously with those Turkish "gentlemen".
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Discussion of what? How will cyprus strike back? LOL

On what planet do you guys live?

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April 29 2012, 12:09 PM 

@Gavur,,i know for a fact there is oil in the northern part of cyprus and i sincerely hope they find it and attempt to exploit it.autos pou 8elh ta polla,xanei kai ta liga.the time is near gavur and when the dust settles they will lose oxi mono ta auga alla kai to kalathi.ksero ti lego.monaxa tin ora pou 8a pethano den ksero.


@jagare,lol,,gare is slang for donkey in cyprus it also denotes a complete and utter imbecile.i am being honest in saying this that every time i see your login i think to myself "how fitting"lol.
as regards turkish pride,where is yours?imperium europa?,lol europe doesnt want turkos.you think just because you jumped the fence and landed in europe that makes you european,LMAO

"Just kidding bro, you are to dirty and lazy to be turk ! GO _BE A PROUD LAZY WORTHLESS GREEK ! :D

PS: Still kidding, on the bro and proud part, the rest is facts.."

yes you turks are real workaholics ,industrious and resouceful,,what did you invent,discover, and contribute again????
seems us lazy greeks give more to humanity and civilization on our go slow than you mongols do on your best day at the office.as for bro?,you a nigga dude? cos you sound like one ya retard but i bet your parents dont hide that from you,esekoglu!

@midget
when cyprus does strike it will knock you off ya stool.wait and see.i notice you like bumping old threads, can i trust you will stand tall enough to bump this thread tatoo?


    
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April 29 2012, 12:37 PM 

"You are telling me Cyprus did not have this power before and suddenly cyprus is all powerful to implement these sanctions and embargo's ...so this comes from EU is it ? Power of Cyprus is from EU ? or the Oil and gas that they found in mediterranean. however mate you are missing a point ... they all ready take your oil ..and drilling at the moment . It isnt EU that gains from it but mostly ISRAEL... why would EU simply listen to Cyprus ..just because Cyprus will be the leader country of EU for some time? ...yeah sure."


///ok,because its be kind to mentally challenged people week i will attempt to spell it out again for you.
yes,nations place their interests first.BUT in the EU the law of the land and its verdicts are LEGALLY BINDING!
whats so freaking hard to understand?As for israel gaiining from this what else is new? when two people quarral a third rejoices.and to be honest there is no difference to me as to whether merkel ,sarkozy or yidish drinks the oil cos at the end of the day they are one and the same but your just too arrogant to see it,


Your economic warfare plans from EU is BIAS ..do you know why? because Cyprus does not have the power to implement these plans ..because we are a bigger ally to EU than CYPRUS Even the way they are in EU... We have more economical trade power , production and industry...

////so you are more of an ally ha?,,,hey buddy you got oil??,cos the eu wants to diversify away from russian dependencs on hydrocarbons,,,more of an ally huh?,you in the eu mehmet?and i dont mean in a kebab shop in downtown rostok either?,oh what was that ?,you just playing hard to get cos you think ya hot property?

IF EU IMPLEMENTS A ECONOMICAL WARFARE ON TURKIYE ...THEY WOULD BE THE ONES THAT GET DAMAGED FROM IT ...

////no,i said cyprus would hit you with economic calamity through the EU supreme court where the decisions are legally binding upon all eu member states.

Mercedes would get damaged , Airbus would get damaged ... Nestle , BOSCH ...
THEY WILL GET DAMAGED ...and also not to forget ... who is going to buy German weapons ? French weapons ? Italian weapons?

////they will get damaged?,why how many turks drive mercks,eat nestle or work with bosch?,buy european weapons did you say?,but ithought that you plan to go indigenous and not buy any foriegn arms,stop being a droofus.
the only thing of signifigance you are to the europeans is a cheap labour source with no environmental laws,lax human/worker rights wherethere is no human dignity codes for them to abide by.they can just as easily set up shop in bangladesh or guatamala.


bankrupt greece?
bunch of wannabe super power economical war strategist Cyprus?

///actually greece has bought more than turkey and cyprus has the oil that their very economy needs to run on.but as i said .wait till after the iran saga ends and then you will see the signifigance of med oil.
You know your country is not the only country in the world with the oil nor thats the only gas left in the world...

Where is the eastern Europe's gas pipeline comes from?
yes Turkiye...

////go ahead turn the tap off if you dare and you will see what they will do to you.besides there is an alternative in the making and you will lose your alledged monopoly in importance.

Where is the Nato missile shield base in ? Turkiye...

///they one you bitched that you didnt want,lol

you believe EU will implement economical war on a country ...This important for their own economical integrity?
Mister aietus you are completely single minded and cannot think global for once a second .

///sunshine,if you could think global you would realise that there are nations that operate with the rule of lawbut you turks are too preoccupied with important turkish law.to scarf or not to scarf lmao.

Cyprus issue will be the least of Turkiye's problems in the upcoming years ...even in the time they will be the leader country in EU...
we have more pressing and urgent matters..on the other hand when the oil is found in the region . It will be used for KKTC and Turkiye alike . There is nothing cyprus can do but watch.

///say that again when we veto your ambitions and wrec havoc on your economy


lol you may Issue all the fined that you want ...

////oh goodie ,so we not only have oil but a cash cow as well,or in this case the turkey that laid the golden egg.


p.s you know how you turks brag about being a regional power?,russia,israel and iran say your not lol


 
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April 29 2012, 12:56 PM 

bottom line is most of Turkey's armed forces are cold war era junk (M48 etc) however they are fielded in large numbers...

this is a similar situation to USA dealing with Saddam or Iran or something

Cyprus has very modern equipment and is backed up by the following players:

- HAF and Hellinic Navy
- Israeli Air Force

militarily at least... if Turkey tries anything they will get b1tchslapped into the stone ages

politically... the influence spreads to the Greenbelt via our Israeli friends...

so bottom line is don't try anything 'funny' on Cyprus or you will get... pwned

even if you don't try you still will get pwned... Cyprus will suck all the oil and with the money build a sizeable defence force with Russian equipment... d

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April 29 2012, 1:36 PM 

R(H)omo

Im pretty sure israel wants to activate NATO for the sake of piss pant greeks... nice going jerk...

 
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April 29 2012, 3:26 PM 

Aietuss you are worse than Romulus ... kinda in the middle of varangian and Nikephoros . sparkle a little bit of Gavur on top of it ...yes thats you ...

None of your answers consist a common ground ...
I have explain why their so called EU bind laws will not be implemented because of Turkiye's strategic and economical importance . By naming those companies i said they are being produced by factories in our country ... thats why they will be damaged ..and they are no small company for EU ... on the other hand .consumption is in it .

All of a sudden this oil and gas gave some sort of energy to Cypriots ...they believe their country is UAE and they are Arab Sheik's ...

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yeah like i said ...

Cyprus may try their best ...it wont work ... simply they dont have the capacity for it.

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April 29 2012, 3:43 PM 

Hilarious, quick enact that greece-israel-american alliance.......

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Re: How will cyprus strike back?

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April 30 2012, 3:28 AM 

Court of Justice/EU Court
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The Lisbon Treaty makes the Charter of Fundamental Rights legally binding. Therefore the EU Court has the potential of becoming a rival to the Human Rights Court in Strasbourg - both being courts which will be dealing with human rights issues. It also provides for the EU Court to accede to the European Convention on Human Rights, which is currently interpreted by the Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg.

The Lisbon Treaty increases the competences of the EU Court and make it possible to establish new specialised courts with qualified majority.

NO NORMAL COURT

The European Court is not a normal court deciding on verdicts on the basis of laws from a parliament. The EU-Court also develops the law. The Court has established EU law as a constitutional system which has primacy over national laws.

A verdict from the Court may have effects which cannot be changed even if all members of the European Parliament should unanimously desire such chages. An interpretation of the treaties by the Court can only be changed by a new treaty agreed by all 27 governments and then ratified with the support of the 27 national parliaments or by referendums in some countries.

VERDICTS BY NUMBERS

Up to May 2009 the Court of Justice had given 7,968 verdicts. The Court of First Instance has added 2,354. In total the politically decided acquis of Community law has been supplemented by 10,322 Court of Justice verdicts. In establishing these verdicts the Court has been assisted by 3,326 preliminary statements from its advocates-generals. These normally conform with what the Court later decides, but not necessarily so.

The EU Court is based in Luxembourg. The Court adjudicates on cases under the EU treaties. It is the final interpreter of EU legal disputes under the treaties and its decisions cannot be appealed against. It is therefore the supreme court of the European Union.

It adjudicates in cases brought before it by citizens or associations, by member states against one another, by member states against the EU institutions and vice versa, and by EU institutions against one another.

The Court consists of one judge from each member state and eight advocates-general, who prepare the cases. It is divided into chambers.

The Court is only responsible for first pillar (supra-national) issues, where supranational Community law applies, and is therefore officially called the European Community Court. Under the Treaty of Nice the Court gained competence in some Justice and Home Affairs and consequently may now be called the EU Court.

The Court has been a major influence in interpreting the treaties in ways that have effectively extended EU competence to the widest possible extent. In 1964, in the Costa vs. Enel case, it decided that EU law must over-ride (that is, have primacy over) national law.

In 1970, in the Internationale Handelsgesellschaft and Simmenthal cases it decided that EU law also over-rides (has primacy over) national constitutions.

The language of the Court is French. Its deliberations are secret and the Court does not publish dissenting votes.

One does not need to be a judge to be a member of the Court. Among its judges for example have been professors of law and politicians.

Notes

It has a lower court, the Court of First Instance, to which cases concerning competition policy, staff disputes and certain other less important matters are delegated.

Links

http://curia.eu.int/



bluey,you can argue opinions over facts all you like, you can even argue against eu laws on behalf of turkey and her actions,hell you can advocate all you want the fact is eu supreme court verdicts have primacy over member state laws.now you can compare me to any waffer you like it does not change the facts and turkey knows she is in an ultimately unttainable position

 
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Re: How will cyprus strike back?

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April 30 2012, 3:39 AM 

I have explain why their so called EU bind laws will not be implemented because of Turkiye's strategic and economical importance


////dude you do realise that the eu courts are independant of individual member staes self interests dont you?
just because laws and courts in turkey are manipulated on a daily basis doesnt mean its the same in the eu supreme court.whats the bet i can find presendent cases and individual cases which have ruled in favour of individuals against states and companys?
if you still want to insist that i dont make sense then pleeeaasee let me know bluey i'd be only to happy to prove you wrong again.

 
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Re: How will cyprus strike back?

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April 30 2012, 6:31 AM 

Since 2004 Cyprus is a EU member ...

suddenly EU laws will allow Cyprus to implement economic sanctions to Turkiye.

WHY TODAY?

Suddenly with new found oil and gas reserves Cyprus is as influential as Arab League ...

When Cyprus takes the Leadership role of EU all the EU countries will follow them in these steps.

CYPRUS WILL SUE US ....OMG...

GO ON AIETUSS GOOD LUCK TO YOU .

EU BANKRUPTS MEMBER COUNTRIES EVEN WHEN THEY KNEW THE CONSEQUENCES ...AND YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT EU BEING LAW BINDING AND DEMOCRACY CARING ...THEY EVEN HAVE THE GUTS TO SAY IT OUT IN THE OPEN ...

THEY KNEW GREEK ECONOMY CANNOT HANDLE CHANGE TO EURO...TOUGH THEY DIDNT DO ANYTHING TO STOP IT ...

THEY KNEW GREEKS WOULD GET UNDER TREMENDOUS DEPT WHEN THEY HANDED OUT THE LOANS ...

THEY GAVE YOU SECOND HAND TANKS FOR DOUBLE THE PRICE...THEY KNEW IT ...

AND YOU ARE HERE TALKING ABOUT THE LAW AND ORDER ...

YOUR COUNTRY IS A SLAVE IN THE EU ECONOMIC ZONE ...NOTHING BUT A CONSUMER .THIS INCLUDES THE OIL BEING SUCKED FROM YOUR COUNTRY BY ISRAEL.


GOOD LUCK TO CYPRUS IN SUING ...

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Re: How will cyprus strike back?

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April 30 2012, 7:20 AM 

""Since 2004 Cyprus is a EU member ...
suddenly EU laws will allow Cyprus to implement economic sanctions to Turkiye.
WHY TODAY?""

////incase you were freeze dried, sleeping or doing hard time since 2004 cyprus was encouraged by the eu members NOT to veto turkey.they asked cyprus to hold back and to give diplomacy and turkey a chance.the greenline sealed for 30years miraculously re opened and the chapters affecting turkey were effectively placed in cyprus's hands.(how many frozen lol)since 2004 turkey has paid out millions with millions more pending so to say that turkey being sued is a novelty isnt the case bluey.we were simply giving turkey a chance to conform

""Suddenly with new found oil and gas reserves Cyprus is as influential as Arab League ...""

///actually in many ways we are more influential especialy when you consider turkeys size and weight.
cyprus entered the eu and turkey is still looking through the key hole.cyprus is recognised and turkeys policies arent and yes oil will buy us more clout especially when you consider american and eu energy bills that state diversification away from russia and mid east oil.


""When Cyprus takes the Leadership role of EU all the EU countries will follow them in these steps. ""

////surely you cant be that thick bluey,cyprus will hold the revolving presidency yes but it will act according to protocols.eu is a democracy and thus the judiciary is independent and transparent and all that we will do will be by the book unlike turkey which can only resort to threats and violence



""CYPRUS WILL SUE US ....OMG...""

///you sound like tezel


""GO ON AIETUSS GOOD LUCK TO YOU . ""

////luck has nothing to do with it,incase you havent noticed , we have been suing attila for millions already,,,what ,no comment lol?


EU BANKRUPTS MEMBER COUNTRIES EVEN WHEN THEY KNEW THE CONSEQUENCES ...AND YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT EU BEING LAW BINDING AND DEMOCRACY CARING ...THEY EVEN HAVE THE GUTS TO SAY IT OUT IN THE OPEN ...
THEY KNEW GREEK ECONOMY CANNOT HANDLE CHANGE TO EURO...TOUGH THEY DIDNT DO ANYTHING TO STOP IT ...
THEY KNEW GREEKS WOULD GET UNDER TREMENDOUS DEPT WHEN THEY HANDED OUT THE LOANS ...

////so what does economics have to do with the law?.just because a nation or individual may struggle financialy does not mean that nations or individuals right to justice is negated.are you quoting from turkish laws?


THEY GAVE YOU SECOND HAND TANKS FOR DOUBLE THE PRICE...THEY KNEW IT ...
AND YOU ARE HERE TALKING ABOUT THE LAW AND ORDER ...

///me specific,which tanks and how much?, was your sabra a better deal?

YOUR COUNTRY IS A SLAVE IN THE EU ECONOMIC ZONE ...NOTHING BUT A CONSUMER .THIS INCLUDES THE OIL BEING SUCKED FROM YOUR COUNTRY BY ISRAEL.
GOOD LUCK TO CYPRUS IN SUING ...

////And turkey is the IMF's bitch,,greece may be a consumer.lets assume you are correct.are you aware that greek employees have more industrial relations rights than turks?,are you aware greeks work in better conditions than turks?,are you aware that there are universal laws in greece that protect employees in greece wheras in turkey even children are expolited?, hhmmm?
As for luck in suing turkey?,,no luck needed.what is needed is turks working harder to pay the plaintif


 
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Re: How will cyprus strike back?

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April 30 2012, 12:14 PM 

1.issueing fines to turkey
2.succesfully sueing for damages
3.succesfully forcing an eu boycott
4.imposing economic sanctions against turkey
5.expanding the above so as it wont just be the eu vs turkey but through the WTO to expand it beyond.

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How the hell will you greasy swamp people do that against Turkey??

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