Year in 2011 proved a milestone for the Turkish defense industry since the managers were able to overcome the default ambitious sales target of one billion U.S. dollars. Final sales reached $ 1.1 billion, versus $ 853 million in 2010 , a really important record and a very important contribution to Turkish economy.
Now the bar is placed at two billion U.S. dollars, a goal that the Turks want to be caught up in 2016. condition is to be able to capitalize further the results of research and development (R & D) which funded massively the last decade , making products available, sometimes competing if one counted the cost, operational reliability and transfer know-how which is prepared make the country as an incentive to provide customer contracts in international markets.
For 2012 the neighbors keep "small basket", given the unfavorable economic situation, saying that if you are happy again achieved the target of one billion U.S. dollars. Specify that the Secretary of State for Defence Industries of Turkey (SSM) includes the published figures and cooperation in the field of civil aviation , which is not common in other countries and is part of the non-military contracts.
However, once involved with a strong aerospace industry, military status is not justified, as the Greek ODA performs contracts for large civil aircraft manufacturers worldwide. Of course, when the association of exporting defense of Turkey gives the size of purely defense exports to around 415 million dollars, the difference is really big and confusing . However, given that the money went to the Turkish economy and that is important for the Turks.
Among the major clients of the Turkish defense industry included Malaysia, the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia . Now, contracts are expected from Kazakhstan (up venture the past two years), while there are hopes for the shipbuilding industry in countries of the Persian Gulf and the Far East , as state characteristics. Also, the Arab Spring Turks hope that it will create business opportunities for the defense industry.
1.1 Billion in sales, sounds impressive.
how much of the 1.1 billion pie went to exports and how much was to domestic sales??
of the 1.1 billion dollars how much of it was imported goods re exported?
you know,like engines,components,materials etc?
assume its 1.1 billion in total exports,given that military industries in turkey are tax exempt,this means what exactly for the turkish economy and government revenues??
i bet during this time greece exported more than 1 billion in feta sales where ther wasnt a hundred billion outlay to establish an industry
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if you dont know the answer its ok to say so,its ok to also ask questions,i did!
if the questions are too uncomfortable for you than simply keep quite and dont attract attention.trying to deflect or put a brave face only shows turks to be a nation of inbred retard mutation wife beating donkey violating raghead worshipping ignorameous yobaz's.
just friendly advice.
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What questions are you serious? Im not going to bother to answer anything someone who even doesnt believe what he says. You are nothing but a comedian have a pain on your known place because of our defence improvements and nothing to say anything but this shvt above!
Not impressive you say, I agree it's a shame Turkish exports should be much much higher.
But the trend of rise in exports is impressive $1.1bln up from $853mln the previous year is 29% rise! (says something about the growth of the Turkish defence industry whether you like it, are impressed or not)
And PS don't compare this with the junk economy of Greece to spare you a depression.
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Nutuk, surely you could understand the legitimate questions i put forward as to
the 1.1 billion figure.
but im begining to understand that your mental capacity was cut short due to a baseball bat wielding skinhead
in holland protesting your presence there.
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Aietuss, you question to begin with can only be questioned by a moron
1.1 Billion in sales, sounds impressive.
how much of the 1.1 billion pie went to exports and how much was to domestic sales??
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All of the 1.1 bln is export, how much the domestic sales where in 2011 I do not know but in 2010 it was ~2.7bln
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Nutuk,english is not my primary language and even so my english is more proficient than most peoples whom speak english as their native tongue
now i ask you nutuk, where in the article does it state 1.1 billion is in EXPORTS?
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It's an article of Defence point (you can read the Greek version), maybe they have not written it explicitely as export but you can take it from me it is the export value they are talking about.
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When we produce a Otocar cobra with 90% internal ressources and we purchase 10% like the motor from external companies or countries, than 10% of the export value of 1,1billion are reexport!
so oyu can check all exported military products and can figure out how much is the reexport of imported ressources!
It should be between 10-20%. But anyway we are producing and exporting goods and products and make profit of it. Our defense industry is growing fast and our economiy rises also hand in hand with it. We gain hig level tech know how.
As you can see we are on the winning side and this is good so!
Our turnover is high and gets higer, the profit will rise also!
That's the right way
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i really do wish turkey economic success,infact i wish all nations prosperity and thus i hope turkey performs economicaly well.not only on paper but in deeds for all her citizens.
i wont argue with you on particular economic issues as regards turkey
but i will say this
"A turk from waff needs to be appointed by ankara to write a letter stating all of the forecasts that we hear on a daily bases here at waff.in this letter(that could also be a collective effort by kemalist and islamists)you could state all the positive steps that turkey has taken to enhance,modernize,and empower turkey and the strength based approach to planning turkeys economy.in this letter you could also add all the export contracts that are pending,all that have been signed and those contracts that are currently under negotiations.
furthermore it would be great to state all the innovation,research and planning that are underway in turkish industry,,even mention the dried apricot and hazelnut exports(seriously who doesnt like hazel nuts?)
And when this letter is written and spell proofed then mail it to this following address
S&P financiers, investors and ratings house Po Box 3678 New York usa.
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Nutuk you can cut and paste all you like,but if you are over your brain haemotage think allitle and tell me how many off those sites lay empty?,how many mainstream turks can afford those highrises?
surely you can do better
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Construction companies in Turkey are not charity institutions, they do not build those sites to stay empty. The general look of the cities are a mirror of a countries real prosperity.
I am not saying Turkey is in the top 10, but be honest our cities look much more decent than the (on paper) prosperous Greece's cities, how comes?
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Despite the fact that you have been degraded by the evaluation firm Standard and Poor's contrary to Greece which is a major humiliation if you ask me since you play the regional financial superpower and taking into consideration the current financial situation of Greece,
making Erdogan barking like an idiot that Mongolia will never consider Standard and Poor's as a reliable financial evaluation firm further ridiculing himself and his country
i unfortunately have more unpleasant news for you, PKK still continues to kill your soldiers and there is very little that you can do about it.
nutuk, china builds cities and shopping malls faster than you can build t129's and altays and the majority are empty but they do it to keep up employment and growth,you say that property construction is an indication of a nations wealth,is that really true now?
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Nice photos of Athens and Istanbul! The hint is that Turkey is a modern nation, while Greece is 3rd World.
Now, reality check:
From the CIA factbook on Greece and Turkey:
Greece:
Maternal mortality rate:
2 deaths/100,000 live births (2008)
country comparison to the world: 172
Infant Mortality rate:(2012)
total: 4.92 deaths/1,000 live births
country comparison to the world
Turkey:
Maternal mortality rate:
23 deaths/100,000 live births (2008)
country comparison to the world: 123
Infant Mortality rate: (2012)
total: 23.07 deaths/1,000 live births
country comparison to the world: 8
Not bad for the 3rd world Grikoland, is it?
Now, infant and maternal mortality has nothing to do with economic development. Providing good healthcare to new-born children and their mothers is cheap, far cheaper than heart surgeries or diabetes drugs. It has to do with scientific level and with social development. Greece has roughly the same figures as Western Europe. Turkey however........................
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"The Turkish Cypriots looted, robbed and ravaged Greek Cypriot properties. They must start producing instead of being mere consumers. The Turkish Cypriots wanted to live without working!"
Major-General Bedrettin Demirel (1917-1988)
Commander of the Turkish Invasion Forces in 1974
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you say that property construction is an indication of a nations wealth,is that really true now?
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Yes, a couple of months ago I believe you included the Greek forumers where expressing their hopes that China would invest in your bankrupt country. Whether you like to confess it or not China is quickly growing in wealth. Chinese cities look like taken from scifi films whereas Greek cities look like Iraqi/Afghan cities, how comes. Don't compare your piss nation with China, please!
Shanghai:
Beijin
Qingdao
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I just checked the UN list on infant mortality index of all UN members. Turkey has higher infant mortality than Bulgaria, Botswana, Moldova and Albania!
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"The Turkish Cypriots looted, robbed and ravaged Greek Cypriot properties. They must start producing instead of being mere consumers. The Turkish Cypriots wanted to live without working!"
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Commander of the Turkish Invasion Forces in 1974
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"I just checked the UN list on infant mortality index of all UN members. Turkey has higher infant mortality than Bulgaria, Botswana, Moldova and Albania!"
On that list, China is worse than Greece too but guess what, unlike bankrupt Greece, they're a global power now almost on par with the U.S. and last I checked, most Chinese citizens don't give two chits about some dead babies when the nation's population is already approaching 2 billion.
Perhaps it's time you dumb fvcks give up your retarded sensitivities and learn something about ancient Spartans and how they used to discard genetically inferior babies.
That said, infant mortality is more common in Turkey's east and that is in perfect harmony with Turkey's policy of keeping the Kurds at bay.
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i really do wish turkey economic success,infact i wish all nations prosperity and thus i hope turkey performs economicaly well.not only on paper but in deeds for all her citizens.
i wont argue with you on particular economic issues as regards turkey
but i will say this
"A turk from waff needs to be appointed by ankara to write a letter stating all of the forecasts that we hear on a daily bases here at waff.in this letter(that could also be a collective effort by kemalist and islamists)you could state all the positive steps that turkey has taken to enhance,modernize,and empower turkey and the strength based approach to planning turkeys economy.in this letter you could also add all the export contracts that are pending,all that have been signed and those contracts that are currently under negotiations.
furthermore it would be great to state all the innovation,research and planning that are underway in turkish industry,,even mention the dried apricot and hazelnut exports(seriously who doesnt like hazel nuts?)
And when this letter is written and spell proofed then mail it to this following address
S&P financiers, investors and ratings house Po Box 3678 New York usa.
HILLARIUS!!!
I will use it with your permission as a sig!!
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"The Turkish Cypriots looted, robbed and ravaged Greek Cypriot properties. They must start producing instead of being mere consumers. The Turkish Cypriots wanted to live without working!"
Major-General Bedrettin Demirel (1917-1988)
Commander of the Turkish Invasion Forces in 1974
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Quote Corpusvile:
"On that list, China is worse than Greece too but guess what, unlike bankrupt Greece, they're a global power now almost on par with the U.S. and last I checked, most Chinese citizens don't give two chits about some dead babies when the nation's population is already approaching 2 billion."
We cherish human life in the Western world pal. We are DIFFERENT.
By the way, Chinese population is 1,3 billion.
"Perhaps it's time you dumb fvcks give up your retarded sensitivities and learn something about ancient Spartans and how they used to discard genetically inferior babies. "
Perhaps it is time you Turkish cavemen also learn some manners too.
Understanding the great civilization of Ancient Greece is beyond the capabilities of the average Turkish brain. The Spartans discarded the babies who were born with serious defects and diseases, that had little chance of survival anyway, so that they would not suffer in the rest of their lives.
"That said, infant mortality is more common in Turkey's east and that is in perfect harmony with Turkey's policy of keeping the Kurds at bay. "
Thank you for upholding my opinion that Turkey makes discriminations against the Kurds and Arabs. Therefore they RIGHTFULLY seek independence and secession from Turkey.But your efforts will fail. The Kurds have 3 times larger birth rates than the Turks, and they will be 45 % of the population in 2050.
TOROS_2000, I hope you read this!
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"The Turkish Cypriots looted, robbed and ravaged Greek Cypriot properties. They must start producing instead of being mere consumers. The Turkish Cypriots wanted to live without working!"
Major-General Bedrettin Demirel (1917-1988)
Commander of the Turkish Invasion Forces in 1974
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