Glad to see that our Zubrs are fully operational i was always of the opinion that they will be proved to be vital for sending reinforcements to our islands, if Mongols think that because of the crisis it will be easy for them to invade us, they wont be able to count their losses

Although not ideal the image of our armed forces is satisfactory enough to offer leathal force against any potential invader.



ODYSSEUS KILLING THE SUITORS

and for reasons of copyright respect i dont want to be called a thief, those images are courtesy of defencepoint.gr





ODYSSEUS KILLING THE SUITORS

"Article by Brigadier General Koutsogiannopoulos, former Director of International Relations of the Ministry of Defence. Translated from post on Strategy-Geopolitics.


The immediate immobilisation of the 2 out of 4 Zubr hovercraft of the Hellenic Navy raises serious questions. According to press reports the Zakynthos (L-183) and Ithaca (L-181) have been immobilised with immediate effect and will possibly be immobilised permanently with the aim of acting as a source of spare parts for the other 2 hovercrafts, Corfu (L-182) and Kefalonia (L-180)."



------------------------------------------------------------------------

The immediate immobilisation of the 2 out of 4 Zubr hovercraft of the Hellenic Navy raises serious questions. According to press reports the Zakynthos (L-183) and Ithaca (L-181) have been immobilised with immediate effect and will possibly be immobilised permanently with the aim of acting as a source of spare parts for the other 2 hovercrafts, Corfu (L-182) and Kefalonia (L-180)."
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

im aware of this fact , i was talking about the remaining ones which are fully operational now for a girl you seem to know alot of things about military issues

or maybe you are not a girl at all? who knows.



ODYSSEUS KILLING THE SUITORS

I dont know greek girls' situation in bankrupt greece but in Turkey girls can reach any information as they want.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

I dont know greek girls' situation in bankrupt greece but in Turkey girls can reach any information as they want.
------------

it is not a matter of availability of information it is matter of your specific interests you will rarely find girls spending so much time to find articles and information concerning military issues and you will rarely find girls displaying this Ultra Nationalism and animosity towards their neighbors

you dont convince me that you are a girl



ODYSSEUS KILLING THE SUITORS

aaaaaa great pic HELLAS IS READY ALWAYS, great force great everything.
Hey turcos yes the zubr dont work, nothing works .... Hahaha

turks after meeting greeks!
turko chicken wings


oh man i get hungry,,,, need a new girl friend to cock for mee.....

-----------------------------------------------
Hellas is the past and the future! Ancient greek compared to today greek, the same

"it is not a matter of availability of information it is matter of your specific interests you will rarely find girls spending so much time to find articles and information concerning military issues and you will rarely find girls displaying this Ultra Nationalism and animosity towards their neighbors"

With your words, its not a matter of being female or male, but its matter of growing up in a community (My almost whole family members are from Turkish Armed Forces) which im very proud of. There is no difference here between a girl and a boy. We are all programmed to save this country no matter what.



------------------------------------------------------------------------

Greek Armys trucks might be good 4 KOCMUSEUM in Istanbul(Since 1453)!

"With your words, its not a matter of being female or male, but its matter of growing up in a community (My almost whole family members are from Turkish Armed Forces) which im very proud of. There is no difference here between a girl and a boy. We are all programmed to save this country no matter what. "


Owned.

---

I'm not like everybody else

Babe Beach or whatever you call yourself im not convinced that you are a female, i have been along time here and i didnt see any "patriotic Turkish girls" coming .

From the beginning a gave you the benefit of the doubt because there is always a possibility that you might be a girl having this background described to me but this possibility is very slim.

I maintain serious doubts that you are what you say, for me you will always be a Turkish troll disguised as a girl in order to enjoy a priveleged treatment on behalf of the Greek members while you launch your crap on a daily basis.

What you said above might be or might not be true we have to believe what you say in order to accept it unless you prove that you are what you say

And as long as you dont prove what you say im not forced to believe your story.

Now, because as i said above i always leave a room for doubt because nobody is infallible including myself i will not respond to you as i would normally do to a Mongol boy

But never take it for a moment as a sign of weakness on my behalf, better take it a sign of prudence and caution

for me you will be a Turk disguised as a girl for trolling purposes unless you prove beyond any doubt otherwise

and with this i conclude my participation in this exceptional thread of mine.



ODYSSEUS KILLING THE SUITORS

Getting ready for what. Defeat?

The Somali army could steam roll over you faggots.

I realy dont care what you think about me. Moreover, i didnt even noticed your name till now. Anyway,

As i said in S&C forum before, im not the one come here and declare my sex, i tried to keep it secret, i even registered with a different email adress because i knew people will target me because of my gender with their disgusting insults.

Here in your thread, i just replied your readiness of your Zubrs which i remember 2 of them not in use so it was very easy for me to find the related artickle and the important point is, there was no even a single imply about my sex neither in this thread, nor in any thread. Thats why i will be really feel comfortable that if you forget my gender and just ignore. But if you post a thread again with such words " im glad Zubrs of Greek navy full operational", i wont ignore and lecture you.

I think im clear enough

------------------------------------------------------------------------

not convincing enough as i explained above my statement is accurate enough our Zubrs even if we are talking about the remaining ones are fully operational as displayed in the photos so there was no need for your
"lecture"


now i have noticed that you jump in every thread making provocative comments against Greece and Greeks of course you have the right to say whatever you like but you need to be treated according to your behavior

now i dont know who brought up your gender if you wanted to avoid revelation etc etc you still say things which you do not prove

and as long as you dont prove what you say i will maintain my doubts concerning who you really are.

Of course i would like to talk to you the way you deserve based on your comments in various threads especially when you jump in making anti Greek comments everywhere

but and thats the problem im not sure about your identity and there is always the risk that i may be reprimanded if i talk to you the way i would to A Mongol boy.



ODYSSEUS KILLING THE SUITORS

@ ontyseas

Does Babybeachs sex matter at all in millitary discussions ? Its really freaks me out to see the obsession over her. What kind of freaks are you, who get all exited
for the possibility of talking to a girl ? How low life are you guys IRL ?

- For my part, it doesnt matter. Its really attractive for a girl to be interested in militray matters. Especially if she´s Turkish. For the lord knows, the swedish professional female soldiers are too masculine for any taste.

You go girl !

it does matter to me and it has nothing to do about her physical apperance or her sex i dont give a damn about it, it has to do with certain preconceptions that people have

even if there is the slightest doubt and people believe that we deal with a girl any behavior which might have been perceived as offensive on my behalf would harm my reputation

and i dont want it to happen at any cost i saw the treatment that Kallimachos had when he made his comments and certain other Greek members i dont want to experience something similar

although it is out of the question that i would make comments based on the sex of somebody i still would have talked more harshly to him/her if i was convinced that she is a male in reality



ODYSSEUS KILLING THE SUITORS

Thank you Jagare.

For all; it really doesnt matter who we are where we are from. Noone will ever meet from here since this is not a dating forum but a well organized military forum.

Onty, i really.. but really dont care what you think about me, a boy or girl It really doesnt matter. I will participate the threads as long as im allowed. I will not convince anyone for anything since its not my intention of being here. Just try to ignore me, you will be happy

------------------------------------------------------------------------

"The Somali army could steam roll over you faggots."


Well you're right. The DogEaters are much better fighters right? Like for example when the much smaller Japanese were liquidating and
beheading you like sheep in WWII or let's not forget the impressive victory of the People's Republic of China army against Tibet. Your soldiers showed great bravery and tenacity against those unarmed Tibetan monks!

Lets not forget something very crucial in United States and elsewhere the limits between a joke a simple tease and sexual harrassment are very thin

i heard stories that people found themselves accused in a court just because they said the wrong thing at the wrong person

anyway women seem to have the upper hand in Western cultures and taking into consideration that many members including the management represent those western societies where yes theoritically speaking both sexes are equal

but in reality women have always the advantage the way they treated i think that it is a matter of prudence on my behalf to be cautious and prudent

thats all



ODYSSEUS KILLING THE SUITORS

Greeks lubricated and telling WAFF-Turks they're ready and waiting for Turks.

"We important, we Everything Activated"
http://www.network54.com/Forum/248068/thread/1337681883/last-1337687125/Hellenic+SAM+network+fully+activated+after+surprise+order+by+the+Joint+Chief+of+Staff!!!!

Western way of law absulutely equal to both sexes and yes there is such an image that western culture and society also equal but infact as we all see here, many has (not rightfully) doubts that how a girl can interested on military issues that much as a male.. Thats the way of thinking all over the world not only for that specific "military" issue but any subject. Thats a clear proof that theorically yes, but in pratic, western cuture is not differs from eastern way of thinking.

But im not surprised because Turkey as an eastern country, is the country who gave us election rights before most of the European country in 1920s. Im proud of my country.



------------------------------------------------------------------------

@My almost whole family members are from Turkish Armed Forces

How comes that in that forum the most flaming Turks are either people who never served in the army or .....girls?
Always the same boring story, "i never served but i have a cousin-uncle-friend blah blah so i know everything...."

@ontysseas
It looks 2 of the ships are fully operational, probably the other 2 need overhaul to their engines. This doesn't mean that in case of emergency they cannot travel, even for an one way trip.

Quote: Hellenic.Sun
---------------------------------------------------------
HELLAS IS READY ALWAYS, great force great everything.
---------------------------------------------------------

You are a total Moron.