How long would it take for the airforce to respond to an urgent request for CAS during a surpise assault on these bases?

Why werent immediate orders given for saturation bombing on pkk positions during the attacks?

This latest incident is totally beyond belief. You would think at least cobra helicopters would have been called in ASAP..

One would also believe that these outpost would have plans put in place to respond with massive retaliation.

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What good are these if we cant use them without any delay during surpise attacks on our lads.




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The sooner these fvckers are in service the better.



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We are getting 50+ Pkk death numbers right now ...do you think that is done by infantry man running after them? .... Helicopters are right behind them ...

besides bombardments by F-16's require heavy guidance damage done would be minimum in my opinion ... Since most of the time they get quite close to the base and attack at night ... It is really hard for an accurate Bombing ...what we need is constant UAV feed to designate for F-16's and guided air to ground missiles or even cluster like bombs to flush them behind the rocks they hide ... Precise hits required to make sure we dont kill our own soldiers...


Besides ...i am pretty sure Blackhawks and Cobra's are in operation right now ... also Genel Kurmay said that they have acted fast and that is why death toll is not as much as it would have been (8 is still too much for me but this is war we all know doesnt matter how much you try ...soldiers will still die)

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if you place a gendarmerie station in a sh@ty place like that, your gonna loss soldiers that is a fact...
the people who build that cr@p here should be hanged.
look a the roads on both side, how could expect any help, when you have KEKO's surrounding you on cliff's on both side..
poooooor planning again causes deaths

^^Bu ne lan boyle??? ^^

Trans: What the fvck is this? Any fvcking wonder why soldiers get slaughtered!

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Looks like a nice place to spend a weekend with your new chick...

I bet the Turks were all hash stoned...

THis is what happens when TuAF spents its flight time and fuel harrasing HAF over Aegean.
NATO has aircraft fly 24/7 in Astan and they have a response time less than 30 mins when called from a ground unit under attack.

So keep up with the policy of provoking your neighbours and having them as enemies, soon Assad will be forced to give Kurds Sa-16 Igla SAM, then the big party will begin. At least your coffins are truly indigenous......

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Why don't you support PKK Gayreek?

We will turn Greece into a personal fireplace and then into a toilet.

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Next week in cinema: Hungry Dancing

I d have to credit lack of intel and coordination of comm systems for the slow responses you Turks have which is kinda typical in situations like this. You really can't expect for a fast call on a f16 to make an air strike. The intel must be damn good and verified from ground forces. Besides the General must authorize an airstrike, i don't think that the airforce can act on it's own and call a fast attack airstrike.

Don't compare the USA capability for response times. They have by far the best intel and comm network today.

To everyone that claimed Turkiye did not respond ...or it was too slow ...


http://www.ntvmsnbc.com/id/25360083

Bombardment in Northern Iraq to the escape routes of the Terrorists By Air force and Army...Helicopters and Planes returned back to base after a successful mission

26 terrorist's dead bodies and equipment also been found ...as well as an injured Keko crawling in around ...i am sorry ...i was meant to say Aryan Monkey..

Saviour of the Orthodox Christians ... Army of Jesus ...




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I think their main problem here is the lack of spirit and willingness to conduct true combined operations, despite all their past modernization process there must exist a deep rooted antagonism of different branches within their army power stracture.

Not to mention the political antagonism within army between Kemalists and AKP supporters..