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Poor infrastructure = DEAD soldiers

June 20 2012 at 8:33 AM
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WAFFer  (Login cr33pt3d)
The Conquerors (Turkey)

just look at the situation of this station.
any people with comon sense will be able to see a problem here.
you just cannot defend such a place against KEKO's that is a fact.


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Wolf_Kanuni
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June 20 2012, 8:39 AM 

So?  Don't talk as if this is a normal situation please.  If it is not possible to defend the place then they should fvcking demolish it and rebuild it near in a more suitable place.

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June 20 2012, 8:45 AM 

that's what i'm sayin,the KEKO are attacking stations since many years now, and we should not let our soldiers on such a weak spot.




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Talatpasha
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June 20 2012, 4:52 PM 

The problem is that those border stations mostly built pre-pkk era, just smugglers in mind.
BTW I am totally against stationing soldiers, we should be hunters not preys sitting and waiting.




 
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June 20 2012, 4:54 PM 

Where is that? Maybe it's far away from the frontline.




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June 20 2012, 4:57 PM 

You have already lost the war against Kurds. You just don't know it yet.





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June 20 2012, 5:16 PM 

^^^^^^^^^^^

There is no front line in Guerilla warfare ... They attack wherever they see weak and unexpected ... This is why we have to make sure they dont make it there.

Bunch of Keko's reach police station and attack with rpg's or grenades ... Or stations like these ...they have tried attacking to northern cities ...mostly crashed to rubble because there is no border for them to run to...and even hiding is impossible for them (even though that area is covered with mountains and tree's)

To be honest with you ...there is no defence against Terror ...

Terror's main purpose is to put fear (terror)in to the hearts and minds of the population to manipulate certain agenda .

Even if you build the best tech stations ...best walls ...best everything... if one of them make it through that border and bomb a random place ... it will be on the news ...it will be in the minds of the population ..and people ...hence terror succeeds .


Offensive must be established ...

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June 20 2012, 5:21 PM 

"There is no front line in Guerilla warfare ... They attack wherever they see weak and unexpected ... "
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While that may be true, in the kurdish insurgency case there are no militant bases inside Turkey-proper.
There are border infiltrations, hence my "frontline" term. Am I right?




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June 20 2012, 7:07 PM 

::::::::::::::::::
While that may be true, in the kurdish insurgency case there are no militant bases inside Turkey-proper.
There are border infiltrations, hence my "frontline" term. Am I right?
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Yes you are right about that ...which is why i said there shouldnt be a defensive strategy ... we should go on offensive in to Iraq and Syria ...

AKP is playing the all loving party cards at the moment to suck oil out of Northern Iraq ...while Syria is a mess that may blow in couple of pokes... so its a tight situation ...

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June 20 2012, 9:01 PM 

Kalli:

Can you still affored to ride your bike you little biitch ?!

 
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TheEvian100
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June 21 2012, 9:51 AM 

"which is why i said there shouldnt be a defensive strategy ... we should go on offensive in to Iraq and Syria ..."
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It will be like FARC in Colombia or hezb al islam/taliban in Pakistan. As long as there are countries providing safe-heaven to an experienced, hardcore insurgent group and/or other 3rd-party nations keep funding them, rest assured that there is little to be done on your side. Superpowers like USSR or USA were/are unable to cope, big players like Israel keep struggling for decades. Few examples of successful outcomes of COIN wars exist and usually involve a civil war situation, simply dying out (e.g. our Communist insurgency war). Other than cut and run (i.e. make a deal with them and move on) your options is to keep fighting a bloody COIN conflict for eternity (mostly bad in terms o PR, global face, etc.) and wait until neighboring countries and other seize their support.




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