I wish we hadn't downed the jet, says Syria's Assad


A handout picture made available late 29 June 2012 by the state-run Syrian Arab News Agency (SANA), shows President Bashar al-Assad speaking during an interview with the Iranian state television broadcast in Damascus, Syria, on 28 June 2012. EPA PHoto
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Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has told a Turkish newspaper he wished Syrian forces had not shot down a Turkish jet last month and that he would not allow the tensions between the two countries to turn into open combat.

"We learned that it (the plane) belonged to Turkey after shooting it down. I say 100 percent 'if only we had not shot it down'," the Cumhuriyet newspaper quoted Assad as saying in an interview published on Tuesday.

His comments emerged as fighting raged throughout Syria to unseat Assad in what is increasingly taking on the character of an all-out civil war, fueled by sectarian hatred.

Syrian helicopters bombarded a Damascus suburb on Monday and Turkey scrambled warplanes near the border in the north, as the U.N. human rights chief warned that arms supplies to both the government and rebels were deepening the 16-month conflict.

Asked whether the tensions between Syria and Turkey could lead to war, Assad said: "We will not allow (the tensions) to turn into open combat between the two countries, which would harm them both."

He also said Syria had not amassed and would not amass military forces along the Turkish border, whatever action Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdoan's government takes.

The paper did not specify when the interview was held, but in it Assad refers to an international meeting held in Geneva on Saturday under the auspices of peace envoy Kofi Annan.

Turkey has heightened military activity along its southern border since Syria shot down the Turkish jet over the Mediterranean on June 22, prompting a sharp rebuke from Ankara which said it would respond "decisively".

Syria says it shot down the Turkish jet in self-defense and that it was brought down in Syrian air space. Turkey says the jet accidentally violated Syrian air space for a few minutes but was brought down in international air space.

Assad said Syria would not shy away from apologizing if it emerged that the plane was shot down in international airspace.

"The plane was using a corridor which Israeli planes have used three times before. Soldiers shot it down because we did not see it on our radar and because information was not given."

"Of course I might have been happy if this had been an Israeli plane," Assad said.

July/03/2012

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/i-wish-we-hadnt-downed-the-jet-says-syrias-assad-.aspx?pageID=238&nID=24612&NewsCatID=338

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LOL, crocodile tears.

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Turkiye Turklerindir (Mustafa Kemal Ataturk)

"Of course I might have been happy if this had been an Israeli plane,"


lol

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I'm guessing, he'll eventually get around to apologising for downing the Turkish F-4.. Once he deals with his "regret".. Eventually..

He is anti-imperialist, I wish we could have such kinda leader. I would fight for Assad but never for erdo.

here the full article http://cumhuriyet.com.tr/?hn=349316

He actually makes some valid points. wonder what Erdogan gonna say, he slamed the Wall street Journal for an article, he'll probably shut the lefty Cumhuriyet for this interview










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"He is anti-imperialist, I wish we could have such kinda leader. I would fight for Assad but never for erdo.
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You dont need to protect your Alawit Brothers Faggot! We know what kind of lowlife you are...

TheKhun is a leftist alevi scum bucket, he would sell off Turkey for his Syrian alevi brothers

idiots I told you thousand times that I am not alevi.
most inferior scums on earth are american dogs like you, you are just disgusting.

What does it matter...you share the same sick mentality! **** is ****! You cant change it...

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I would fight for Assad but never for erdo.
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What holds you back?
Go to Syria and kill some Turkish intelligence officers operating there.
Assad will be proud of you.

Oh shut it TheKhun. Every small words by that Alevi phaggot and you are head over heels. How come his balls are deep in your mouth if you arent Alevi yourself? :P



Auf Wiedersehen Deutschland!

Guys you must read this second part of the interview;

http://cumhuriyet.com.tr/?hn=349604


Absolutely agree with this statement, who could object this:




- Söylediklerinizden Erdoan deiti anlam çkyor? Tam olarak neydi deien?

- Aslnda Erdoandan çok koullar deiti. Ve bu yeni koullar Erdoann gerçek yüzünü ortaya çkard. u örneklerle anlataym: srail, Gazzeye saldrdnda Erdoann tavrn hepimiz biliyoruz. Ancak benzer bir saldry ayn srail 2006 ylnda Lübnana yaptnda Erdoan ayn tonda tepki göstermedi. Oysa hem Gazze hem de Lübnandakiler tek düman olan sraile kar savayor. srail iki tarafta da neredeyse eit sayda, yaklak 1600 kii öldürdü. Neden iin içinde Hamas olunca Gazzeye sahip çkyor, barp çaryor da, konu Hizbullahn bulunduu Lübnana gelince hiç sesi çkmyordu?

Mezhepçi dürtüsüyle hareket ediyor

- Size göre neden?

- Mezhepsel dürtülerle hareket ediyor da onun için. Bu çklar hep zihninin arkasn yanstyor. Çünkü Hamas ile Hizbullah arasnda mezhepsel farkllk var. Örnein ikiyüzlü biçimde Suriye halk için alyor da neden Körfez ülkelerinde öldürülenler için alamyor? O ülkelerin demokrasi sorunlarna neden karmyor?


- Hangi ülkelerden bahsediyorsunuz?

- Aralarnda Katarn da olduu baz Körfez ülkeleri diyebilirsiniz.

Hem sraile kafa tutuyor hem de koruyor

- Mavi Marmara olaynda mesela barp çarmak dnda neden bir adm dahi atmad Türkiye? sraile bu kadar kafa tutmasna ramen neden onu koruyacak bir füze kalkannn topraklarnda konulanmasna onay verdi? Bu radar ABD kendisine yönelik bir tehdit için mi oraya koydu sanyorsunuz? Bu kadar uzaktan hangi ülke risk oluturabilir ki ABDye. Tabii ki deil. Yant sraili korumak içindir. Bu olaylar Erdoann gerçek yüzünü ortaya çkard. Erdoan deimedi. Bölgedeki insanlarn Erdoana bak deiti. Erdoan ve güvenilirlii artk Arap corafyasnda tüm çplaklyla tartma konusudur.




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He basically says, rough translation:
Erdogan is moving his country's foreign policy on the basis of his ideology (Sunni islamism). Israel bombed both Lebanon and Gazza, but he only went mad at Gazza bombing and didn't say anything about Lebanon, beacuse it was shia Hizbullah. There are people in gulf sates who are oppressed by their governments but he ignores those people because those people are mainly shias and not sunnis.
He first stand up to Israel after Mavi marmara, everyone thought he was gonna retaliate but later one he let the Nato/Us radar system on his country's soil to defend Israel against iranian missiles. This is an act of cowardice. He is a double faced bastard and arabs no longer trust him.





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Lots of Assad a--ss lickers here.
Off course, Erdogan didn't say anything about Gaza like Assad claims.

Davos incident with Peres didn't really happen.

Lots of Assad a--ss lickers here.
Off course, Erdogan didn't say anything about Gaza like Assad claims.

Davos incident with Peres didn't really happen.


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That's his point. He says he only barks and never does anything. the stunt show at davos doesn't mean retaliation, moron.





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And why should Turkey or Erdogan care about Hizbullah at all?
These are not our guys.

In Lebanon, Turkey has relations with Hariri family.
And in 2005 Hezbullah killed the former Lebanese PM (Rafiq Hariri).

Erdogan with his son Saad Hariri.

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That's his point. He says he only barks and never does anything. the stunt show at davos doesn't mean retaliation, moron.
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I don't really give a f--uck about what Assad has to say and about the morons who follow him.
Here are even paradox Turks like TheKhun who say they'd fight for Assad.
Something's really wrong here.

No Turk would fight for Assad, just as no real Turk should fight for Erdogan.




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If there is something wrong Ekrem it is our failure of foreign diplomacy. Many people are sick of suckin American balls and risking our soldiers' lives in Syria while PKK problem continues and our supa dupa power country cant even attack mountains of N.Iraq. People no longer even believe government or TSK.

If by some remote chance Asad manages to survive along with Iranian regime than we will be in deep ****. Things like that shouldn't be left to chance.

Isolated, F-4 downing would have been tolerable, but considering Cyprus gas drilling, Mavi Marmara, declining relations with Iraqi and Iranian governments it is normal people question the logic of Turkish policy.

Plus Assad makes valid points, despite being our enemy you have to admit to it.

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* Genis capli operasyon, X kadar PKK'li cemberde, kritik toplanti, sert uyari, we have been hearing these last 8 years, I dont believe a word Erdogan says or even TSK. I don't even count MIT who is in bed with PKK.

* Whenever someone criticize international policy they are labeled pro-Israeli, Alevi etc. which shows how desperate and defensive people get.





"One day my mortal body will turn to dust, but the Turkish Republic will stand forever." M. Kemal Ataturk

@Gorkay

+1


Absolutely agree with you. I don't like Assad either but nearly everything he said in that second interview are actual facts.





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Plus Assad makes valid points, despite being our enemy you have to admit to it.
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The only point that was made was that a Turkish newspaper travelled to Damascus and acted as mouthpiece for a Dictator who has the blood on his hands of the pilots.
The "valid points" you see in this is just your personal opinion.

"The only point that was made was that a Turkish newspaper travelled to Damascus and acted as mouthpiece for a Dictator who has the blood on his hands of the pilots.
The "valid points" you see in this is just your personal opinion."

The newspaper done its job. It is actually example of good journalism, bringing news and alternative viewpoints to people. If you have a problem with that, then you have a very skewed idea of what media is and what it does.

When a US reporter interviews Ahmedinejad it doesn't become its mouthpiece now does it?

Plus the paper published the whole article, instead of chopping it up in pieces to give a certain message. Even Al Jazeera which is anti-regime to the core has published it. How about that?

There are valid points I see and parts where I reckon Assad is lying out of his ***. Again, what is happening in Syria is not black and white where a ruthless dictator fights against freedom fighters. To make your mind up you have to listen to both sides. Alternatively you can parrot the official line of government and earn good citizenship bonus.

That plane would not have been shot down if we weren't supplying weapons to rebels and killing hundreds of Syrian troops indirectly. So there is not really a moral ground we can stand on.



"One day my mortal body will turn to dust, but the Turkish Republic will stand forever." M. Kemal Ataturk

It's selective journalism fitting a certain agenda.
If the motive were "good journalism", than Cumhuriyet would also travel to PKK or Armenia's "genocide"-celebrations for the sake of "good journalism".

OK, can you just answer why would Al Jazeera broadcast Cumhuriyet's interview since they have been anti-regime from the beginning?

Also, can you answer if this was done by Milliyet or Hurriyet newspaper, would you view it any differently? I am not asking Zaman as we know they are tied to the government.





"One day my mortal body will turn to dust, but the Turkish Republic will stand forever." M. Kemal Ataturk

Some Turks especially those living in the west have a twisted idea about media. While they enjoy full media freedom in the countries they live in (germany, france, belgium etc) they support censorship in Turkey. I don't read Cumhuriyet never have, but this is a good piece of journalism in my opinion.





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What Assad says for over a year and what he has to say in future is already known.

Assad: Erdogan has lost his credibility
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2012/07/20127465430838203.html

Certainly fits the agenda of all the anti-AKP wingnuts here.
Has nothing to do with "good journalism".

Saddam being interviewed by American journalists



Gaddafi giving an interview to bbc



where these journalists the mouthpiece of these dictators?





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Ekrem is a typical Akahpeli. He cannot counter the valid arguments set by Assad in that interview, for that reason he chooses to assault the messenger (journalists). I am sure Erdogan will do the same. if he shuts this newspaper down I won't be surprised.





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You couldn't answer the question now you accuse me of being anti-AKP. I can sense you are getting a bit defensive.

Look buddy, I don't have to buy into governments propoganda. At the end of the day in case of conflict our soldiers will die, our tax payer will pay.

I don't have problem with people interviewing Armenians or PKK. At the end of the day it is the governments responsibility to do its job and media's to do theirs. If one can't do its job it shouldnt blame the other. Period.





"One day my mortal body will turn to dust, but the Turkish Republic will stand forever." M. Kemal Ataturk

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Ekrem is a typical Akahpeli. He cannot counter the valid arguments set by Assad in that interview, for that reason he chooses to assault the messenger (journalists). I am sure Erdogan will do the same, if he shuts this newspaper down I wouldn't be surprised.
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By saying "valid arguments set by Assad" you already make your position clear.
I've no need to counter any arguments of Assad as Assad is not here to stay.
It is already known what he has to say about the foreign conspiracy hindering him to massacre his own people, leveling down cities with artillery.
No need to travel to Damascus and help Assad circulate his propaganda.

To the rest of what you say I don't really have anything to say, it is known by now, that you're just another Anti-Erdogan wingnut of which this forum is foams over.

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You couldn't answer the question now you accuse me of being anti-AKP. I can sense you are getting a bit defensive.
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I don't accuse you of anything.
Everyone has a rhetoric profile built up over the time.

Assad: Turkey is party to all the bloody acts in Syria
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/assad-turkey-is-party-to-all-the-bloody-acts-in-syria-7911959.html

dp

From day 1 I have opposed missile shield in Malatya as this is to protect Israel which murdered 9 Turks.

So here we have a government that is anti-Israeli in rhetoric yet in practice it is protective of Israel.

Sorry, I am not anti-AKP, I just have a brain. I suggest you use yours too.





"One day my mortal body will turn to dust, but the Turkish Republic will stand forever." M. Kemal Ataturk

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Sorry, I am not anti-AKP, I just have a brain. I suggest you use yours too.
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I suggest you use yours, too.
Turkey has every interest to control Syria's and Lebanon's coast-line in regards to future EEZ-delimination in Mediteranean.
Turkey has clear policy to bring that area (Syria, Lebanon, Jordan) under its control.
http://www.tcmb.gov.tr/yeni/duyuru/2011/Baskan_ShamGen.php

You can not pursue deepening cooperation or make "NAFTA" between the 4 countries after what Assad has done the last 16 months.
He is a pariah (persona non-grata) and when s--hit hit the fan he disregarded Turkey's advice to diffuse the crisis and chose Iran's advice.
He has to go and he will. Otherwise Turkey has already lost in Eastern-Mediteranean and Middle-East.


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From day 1 I have opposed missile shield in Malatya as this is to protect Israel which murdered 9 Turks.
So here we have a government that is anti-Israeli in rhetoric yet in practice it is protective of Israel.
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Israel and Turkey are no neighbours (apart from sea-border).
It's not possible for Turkey to project power into Israel or make Israel subdue.
Things change after Turkey has the Levant under its controll and de-facto borders Israel.
At this point Turkey can make only "talk the talk".

"Things change after Turkey has the Levant under its controll and de-facto borders Israel.
At this point Turkey can make only "talk the talk"."

At least you are admitting we are all talk and no walk. That's a positive step on your part.

Turkey will never ever be able to project influence over Israel. Israel is allied to the US. Period.

Before we burned bridges with Israel, we could stop Cyprus from gas drilling. Because they were too weak to oppose our intervention. Now that we have pushed Israel to Cypriot arms, they are drilling gas with backing from US. No one listens to us. It will be too late by the time we control Syria and have a functioning government in its place.

So we have failed on both accounts. Our idea of claiming gas reserves in Cyprus has diminished with tacit approval of US's backing of Israel-Cyprus drilling.

In the meanwhile we are still awaiting apology over Israel's murder of 9 Turks.

Theory and practice dont always work the same. Davutoglu's "strategic depth" sounds good in theory but in practice it is not working and will not work, even if Assad falls.



"One day my mortal body will turn to dust, but the Turkish Republic will stand forever." M. Kemal Ataturk

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Theory and practice dont always work the same. Davutoglu's "strategic depth" sounds good in theory but in practice it is not working and will not work, even if Assad falls.
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Yakn Komular Ekonomik ve Ticaret Ortaklk Konseyi Türkiye, Suriye, Ürdün ve Lübnan tarafndan kurulmu serbest ticaret ve ekonomik ibirlii örgütüdür.[1]
http://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yak%C4%B1n_Kom%C5%9Fular_Ekonomi_ve_Ticaret_Ortakl%C4%B1k_Konseyi

The 4 countries established a Council to make free-trade area betwen Jordan, Lebanon, Syria and Turkey.
The Central Banks had plans to deepen cooperation.
Once Assad is gone and we've our guys put in place in Damascus there's no further disruption in the plan to make these countries an extension of Turkish economy. Just like Germany did it in Europe.

Assad proved a wrong bet, in the end he sided with Iran and deepened his isolation with his action during Syrian uprising.
What Turkey invested in efforts over the years was destroyed.
So, there's no further going together with him, and he has to go.
It's really simple as that.

And why should Turkey or Erdogan care about Hizbullah at all?
These are not our guys.

In Lebanon, Turkey has relations with Hariri family.
And in 2005 Hezbullah killed the former Lebanese PM (Rafiq Hariri).

Erdogan with his son Saad Hariri.
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Hariri is the man of west. also pro-israeli. he is just a pawn of western imperialism like his turkish counterpartner.
Also he is the owner of oger. oger is owner of Turk Telekom. there are some dirty relations here.

LOL Assad is now making fun of Turks...

^^

Pretty soon, he will be raped with a stick like Gaddafi before he gets killed.

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What Bassar Al Assad implies is the following:

"Gentlemen, we all know why you sent the F-4 to violate the Syrian Air Space. You sent it in order to test the Syrian Air Defences.
Well, you tested them!"

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"The Turkish Cypriots looted, robbed and ravaged Greek Cypriot properties. They must start producing instead of being mere consumers. The Turkish Cypriots wanted to live without working!"

Major-General Bedrettin Demirel (1917-1988)
Commander of the Turkish Invasion Forces in 1974

Dont you get it? Those Kemos give a chit about nationality bla bla. They defend only their interests, their ideology...Essad is a statuko Bastard like themselves. A dictator like Mustafa Kemal...

Two libyian terrorists seen on governors office in Hatay, they are getting their pay checks for killing ppl in syria.