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nEUROn UCAV & Hellenic Aerospace Industry

July 7 2012 at 10:38 AM
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E, pote tha Flevarisei,
pote tha Flevarisei.

Na paro to,
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Na paro to,
Na paro to doufetsi mou
kai tin omorfi Patrona
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Re: nEUROn UCAV & Hellenic Aerospace Industry

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July 7 2012, 12:45 PM 

nice painting job..

by the way France already said Neuron contributer they are piece of chit, so they will soon sign to contract to develope new UCAV with UK. The new UCAV will be something operatinal not like something Neuron "technology demonstrator"

Probably a mock-up like Neuron will fly, than all works will be cancelled:

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Britain and France could sign contracts next month at the Farnborough International Airshow kick-starting early work on development of an unmanned combat air system (UCAV) and a medium-altitude, long-endurance (MALE) UAV, according to one of the companies involved in the work.

Together, the contracts are expected to be worth up to 40 million pounds ($62.8 million) to industry partners BAE Systems and Dassault Aviation, the companies leading the unmanned vehicle effort.

The Anglo-French deals are expected to involve a risk-reduction phase for the proposed Telemos MALE system and a demonstration preparation phase for the UCAV, according to Tom Fillingham, the director of future combat air systems at the British companys Military Air & Information business.

The work on both programs is expected to last 18 months.

The early UCAV phase will allow the two sides to jointly prepare for future combat air system development, said Fillingham.

A large model giving an idea of what the new UCAV demonstrator might look like will be displayed outside the BAE exhibition area at the air show, which takes place July 9-13.

Fillingham said the model would give an indication of the shape and size, but not the actual design.

Britain and a French-led consortium of nations are working on separate UCAV concept demonstrator programs.

The French Neuron vehicle is expected to fly later this year but the maiden flight of the British Taranis has been put back again until 2013. Taranis was originally due to fly in 2011 but was delayed until late this year for technical and other issues. That maiden flight has now been pushed back to early next year.

Part of the reason for the delay is that the U.K. Ministry of Defense has asked for further radar cross-section tests to corroborate what Fillingham described as the very promising data now being analyzed by Government scientists.

BAE allowed visiting reporters to view from a distance the now gray-painted Taranis in its hangar at Warton.

This is the first time Taranis has been seen publicly since it was unveiled in 2010. The machine was painted black at that time.

Fillingham said the program was in good shape for a rejigged first flight in early 2013.

New UAV and UCAV programs are critical to the sustainment of defense aviation skills and capabilities in Europe beyond the current generation of manned Gripen, Rafale and Typhoon jet fighters.

The BAE executive also told reporters during a briefing at the companys Warton military aviation headquarters in northwest England that it was restarting its Mantis MALE technology demonstration program and had shelved work on the smaller Herti tactical UAV.

BAE Systems and Dassault have been working for months on progressing the two deals, which emerged as a result of the Anglo-French defense treaty signed by the two governments in 2010.

We have done everything we can. Its now up to the two governments to sign, said Fillingham.

Its hoped the signing of the early phase program work could take place during the air show, he said.

The risk-reduction work, formally known as a technology maturation phase, is expected to cost 30 million pounds with funding split equally between BAE and Dassault.

The duration of the UCAS demonstration preparation program is set at 18 months. The cost is expected to be between 8 million and 10 million pounds.

The Anglo-French bilateral agreement on unmanned vehicles sparked controversy when it was announced as it left German and Italian industries out in the cold. For the moment, the initial phases of work remain exclusively Anglo-French, but economic, political, defense budget and other issues appear to be pushing the programs toward a wider European alliance, said one industry executive.

The June 14 signing of a letter of intent by France and Germany on procurement cooperation, including looking at opportunities in the MALE sector, signals a willingness by the new socialist government in Paris to continue the policy of the Sarkozy administration to move to a trilateral or even multilateral program, a move the British have reservations about.

French and German defense ministers are scheduled to meet in Berlin on June 22 when cooperation issues are expected to be on the agenda.

Fillingham said the initial conversations on cooperation were U.K.-French only and wider cooperation was a question for the two governments.

The Anglo-French MALE was baselined on the Mantis but the actual vehicle will feature new engines and airframe design.

Fillingham said the company will spend up to 5 million pounds of its own money this year and further sums beyond that to resume the Mantis concept technology demonstrator program, which came to a close at the end of 2009.

The autonomously controlled, twin-turboprop powered Mantis is expected to start taxi trials at the end of this year ahead of resuming test flying in 2013. Some of the technology being tested on Mantis could find its way on to the Telemos program.

Discussions are underway with the U.K. Ministry of Defense about selection of a site to conduct the test flight work.

The BAE executive also revealed the company had closed down its efforts to further develop and sell the Herti tactical UAV it first flew in 2004.

The UAV has failed to find any customers, but some of the technology developed on Herti will be migrated to the Mantis demonstrator.
http://www.defensenews.com/article/20120620/DEFREG01/306200001/U-K-French-UAV-Contracts-May-Signed-Farnborough

 
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Pytheas o Massaliotis
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July 7 2012, 1:54 PM 

Well, I do not see any painting job... nor any mock-ups!

I see the real thing flying up in the sky!
Ready to deliver bombs!
(bomb hangar automatization designed and built by Alenia)

As for the article you provide, it says clearly that "economic, political, defense budget and other issues appear to be pushing the programs toward a wider European alliance"
The article says it, not me!

And it seems that the current European Alliane worked superbly!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZWnjpw1jBE
Just watch the above video, what the French officials have to say (an not you of course, nor any british journalist)
BTW, a month later after the presentation, the nEUROn had its maiden flight.



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Na paro to,
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July 7 2012, 1:55 PM 

Moreover, there is no a real "Industry" in Greece other than its name "Hellenic Aerospace industry"

Hellenic and Industry words are two different things. Im not even talking about Aerospace...

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July 7 2012, 2:04 PM 

Facts seem to prove you wrong, Babybeach... sorry about that!

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E, pote tha Flevarisei,
pote tha Flevarisei.

Na paro to,
Na paro to doufetsi mou...

Na paro to,
Na paro to doufetsi mou
kai tin omorfi Patrona
tin omorfi Patrona......

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July 7 2012, 2:04 PM 

Neuron and gayreek defence industry?Hah!Pathetic!How can you describe something,which is truly does not exist in gayreece?Another gay dream which will never be real!

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July 7 2012, 2:05 PM 

"Moreover, there is no a real "Industry" in Greece other than its name "Hellenic Aerospace industry"

Hellenic and Industry words are two different things. Im not even talking about Aerospace..."


Lockheed Martin disagrees that`s why they built parts for their F-16 in HAI. I think LM
probably knows more staff than you...

 
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July 7 2012, 2:06 PM 

Facts are over there when i check the industrial level, exports and imports of Greece actually. But its for people, who wants to see it.

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July 7 2012, 2:10 PM 

"Lockheed Martin disagrees that`s why they built parts for their F-16 in HAI. I think LM
probably knows more staff than you..."

LM not probably but exactly knows more staff than any of us. Thats why they are giving such small workshare for those small countries who thinks they are producing F-16s, so LM guarantee the next batch of F-16 Block XX models.

They did the exactly same things in Turkey 20 years ago. My previous generation in Turkey deluded like that with full of happiness in thse years... Its your turn, be happy about that until you get the truth.

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July 7 2012, 2:15 PM 

Thank Volvo aero for teaching how to bend metal..



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July 7 2012, 2:22 PM 

Fact:
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Pote tha kamei 'xasteria.

E, pote tha Flevarisei,
pote tha Flevarisei.

Na paro to,
Na paro to doufetsi mou...

Na paro to,
Na paro to doufetsi mou
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tin omorfi Patrona......

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July 7 2012, 2:25 PM 

"LM not probably but exactly knows more staff than any of us. Thats why they are giving such small workshare for those small countries who thinks they are producing F-16s, so LM guarantee the next batch of F-16 Block XX models."

Dear lady or whatever you are you know crap about how a global leader like LM works. Serious
companies like LM are extremely carefull with their partners because even a failure in the
tiniest part can send a 60 million dollars fighter to the buttom of the sea and ruin the
reputation of the company.

"They did the exactly same things in Turkey 20 years ago. My previous generation in Turkey deluded like that with full of happiness in thse years... Its your turn, be happy about that until you get the truth."

You`re a bit weird. No generation can be happy because their AI is manufacturing some parts for
aircrafts but nonetheless its something good. And probably if LM didn`t start cooperation with
your industries 20 years ago today you wouldn`t have the impressive devellopment.


 
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July 7 2012, 2:35 PM 

Greek engineer of Hellenic Aerospace Industry working on the neuron UCAV developement
Fact:

drone_neuron2sr_nkb9428r.jpg click to enlarge

NOT making aircraft parts from offset deals, but DEVELOPING THE FUTURE!!!

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Pote tha kamei 'xasteria.

E, pote tha Flevarisei,
pote tha Flevarisei.

Na paro to,
Na paro to doufetsi mou...

Na paro to,
Na paro to doufetsi mou
kai tin omorfi Patrona
tin omorfi Patrona......

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July 7 2012, 2:51 PM 

Griks getting overwhelmed by the thought of "adding" to the project by bashing metal into shape, while the real developing happened at Volvo. Exhaust masking for the Neuron was developed by Volvo.


"Volvo is developing the engine exhaust nozzle under a separate subcontract finalised with Saab in March."

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/iqpc-ucav-2006-neuron-ucav-to-have-twin-internal-weapons-210862/

And then they make videos like the one above... LOL [linked image]



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July 7 2012, 3:24 PM 

Yes, the Swedish have their share in the developement:

"SAAB (Sweden), is entrusted with the general design of the main fuselage, the landing gear doors, the avionics and the fuel system"


And we Greeks have ours:

"HAI (Greece) is responsible for the rear fuselage, the exhaust pipe, and the supply of racks of the global integration tests rig"

Source: Dassault

What is your point?
By no means this does not reduce our contribution (10%) to the programme.

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Pote tha kamei 'xasteria.

E, pote tha Flevarisei,
pote tha Flevarisei.

Na paro to,
Na paro to doufetsi mou...

Na paro to,
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July 7 2012, 3:45 PM 

Thought I made my point quite clear.. Metal basher..

Griks did not design single part of the Neuron, so why are griks getting so emotional over such a non-achievement ?

You don't see Turks boasting about how TEI developed Primary Exhaust Nozzle for A400M, or Improved Ejector Nozzle System for T-38 which is currently in use by US Airforce and NASA..

http://www.tei.com.tr/yeni/En/urunler-ve-hizmetler.asp?kategoriNo=6&kategoriBasligi=Projects

Those achievements are far beyond Grik Industry..



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July 7 2012, 3:57 PM 

Can someone tell me what the fvck griks produce of this thing? The paintjob?


For me to call a man my friend, He must be equal to me in all respects.

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July 7 2012, 4:17 PM 

Turks have produce only for LM until the F-16 was finish, after that the only parts you got after nice behavior was from Greek HAI (F-16 parts) and INTRACOM (radar v9 parts - electronic).

F-16 aircraft Air Inlets, Engine Access Cover (LM AERO)*
F-16 aircraft Aft Fuselage, F1 Fuel Tank, and Side Panels (LM AERO)*
C-130J aircraft Plug & Mid Panels (LM AERO)*
A300 & A310 aircraft Passenger Door Frames (AEROLIA)*
A319/A320/A321 aircraft Cargo Door Frames (AEROLIA)*
A330/340 aircraft Framework Lower Shell (PREMIUM AEROTECH)*
Boeing B787 aircraft Cargo Door Surround (BOEING)
C-27J Loading Ramp & Cargo Door (ALENIA)*
Falcon 900EX aircraft Fuel Tanks (DASSAULT)*
Falcon 900 & 2000 aircraft Baggage & Emergency Doors (DASSAULT)
Eurofighter Supersonic Fuel Tank Parts (EADS EUROFIGHTER)
T-6A Rib Assemblies (HAWKER BEECHCRAFT)
UH-60 Black Hawk Side Panels

(*) HAI is sole source supplier
http://www.haicorp.com/index.php/en/capabilities-solutions/aerostructures.html


P.S. You know what sole source supplier means f@cking Turks....

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Turkish planing of indigenous projects [linked image]

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July 7 2012, 5:34 PM 

"Can someone tell me what the fvck griks produce of this thing?"

Nothing worth mentioning...

 
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July 7 2012, 5:46 PM 

:"Can someone tell me what the fvck griks produce of this thing?"

Nothing worth mentioning..."

With others words idiot we delivered via LM 30% from your new F-16 C/D block 50 ADV, or you think if the mean sole source supplier world wide for Turks is difficult to understand that words?

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July 7 2012, 5:49 PM 

Quote by Combat_Master:
Thought I made my point quite clear.. Metal basher..

Griks did not design single part of the Neuron


Yes, you made your point quite clear, and this is what I had understood from the beginning!
You are in disagreement with reality.

Greece designed indeed several parts of the nEUROn UCAV, and this is pointed out from the flag pained over it!
Not to mention the list of the parts we designed I provided you before.

Unfortunately facts prove you wrong again and again, but it is up to you if this is against YOU or against the FACTS.

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Pote tha kanei,
Pote tha kamei 'xasteria.

E, pote tha Flevarisei,
pote tha Flevarisei.

Na paro to,
Na paro to doufetsi mou...

Na paro to,
Na paro to doufetsi mou
kai tin omorfi Patrona
tin omorfi Patrona......

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July 7 2012, 5:55 PM 

"With others words idiot we delivered via LM 30% from your new F-16 C/D block 50 ADV, or you think if the mean sole source supplier world wide for Turks is difficult to understand that words?"

That, and the sole supplier of forum retards.

 
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July 7 2012, 7:29 PM 

It will be a wonder if Griks can even get the NH90 helicopters (except the 2 they've received) and the 3 submarines, yet they do not stop dreaming about Neuron.

Dream Greek dream, it costs nothing and nobody will ask it back (like your debts)

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July 8 2012, 7:10 AM 

^^^^

First of all we have 4 NH90 received and have pay the biggest part from bill. I am sure NH Industries like to canceling or minimize the order for not pay the penalties for delayed arriving and developments problems from NH-90 helicopter.


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July 8 2012, 8:03 AM 

Sure, it is always the others who have a pick on little innocent Greece, Greece is always paying her debts honestly

muahahahaa

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July 8 2012, 9:16 AM 

Greks can't design anything related with those projects. Neither they have any design experiences, nor a domestic program before so They can't offer anything to European aerospace programs. They just manufacture and assembly the parts designed by other partners. They have no saying on this project but spreading the glorious propagada's with below %1 contribution.


Greeks with their exhaust paintjob efforts, make such a big noise in forums, I can't imaging How they will bark If they design-develop own attack/utility heliopters, aircrafts, UAV's, trainers, tanks, missiles, cruise missiles...etc like Turkey...

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July 8 2012, 9:28 AM 

@Pytheas
how many Greeks know who Pytheas was. His books are no to be sold in Greece, nor are they translated....pity....

 
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July 8 2012, 7:58 PM 

Quote by Felix:
@Pytheas
how many Greeks know who Pytheas was. His books are no to be sold in Greece, nor are they translated....pity....


Hello Felix!

Pytheas was a great mathematician, explorer and geographer, from Massalia, nowadays Marseille of Provance, France.
He was the first that recorded te existence of the British isles, and the first to have recorded the ices of the north pole, and the first to have recorded (and discovered?) the existence of the North Atlantic Current.

He had written 2 books desribing his explorations and his theories, but none of them has reached our days, thanks to the destruction of the library of Alexandria...
His writings survive fragmentary through mentions from other ancient Greek geographers.

So noone of his books survive, therefore, noone of his books are translated.
But if you would like books about him written in greek, there are several of them sold at the bookstores

a sample from 4 of them:
http://www.protoporia.gr/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=%CF%80%CF%85%CE%B8%CE%AD%CE%B1%CF%82&x=0&y=0


even though there are books about him, I doubt that if you ask any person in the streets of Greece about Pytheas, anyone will have a clue about what you say...
He is not considered to be one of the colossal ancient Greeks, and it is hard to have a general clue even about them, as they are so many...

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Pote tha kanei,
Pote tha kamei 'xasteria.

E, pote tha Flevarisei,
pote tha Flevarisei.

Na paro to,
Na paro to doufetsi mou...

Na paro to,
Na paro to doufetsi mou
kai tin omorfi Patrona
tin omorfi Patrona......

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July 8 2012, 9:09 PM 

@ cabatli

Our participation to the programm is 10 %, and not 1.
And yes, we designed from scratch whatever we produced for the nEUROn UCAV.

Anything that scares you is not always propaganda. It may very well be true!
Stop sticking your head to the sand!

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Pote tha kanei,
Pote tha kamei 'xasteria.

E, pote tha Flevarisei,
pote tha Flevarisei.

Na paro to,
Na paro to doufetsi mou...

Na paro to,
Na paro to doufetsi mou
kai tin omorfi Patrona
tin omorfi Patrona......

download the song

 
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July 8 2012, 10:31 PM 

It has been discussed plenty of times, Greek share in this project is around %1, There is nothing to be proud of. And Greece will no way have these expensive military toys.


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July 8 2012, 10:58 PM 

nEUROn = no Euro's no neuron


Wake up chitheads, you are broke to the bone.



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July 9 2012, 11:02 AM 

"Our participation to the programm is 10 %, and not 1.
And yes, we designed from scratch whatever we produced for the nEUROn UCAV. "


Dude, Wellknown European Neuron partners keeping the %97 shares in their hands know that Greeks can't offer anything to this project but simply metal bashing and paint job. It is so cear with source that Your "state of art" "game challenger" nozzle was being designed by other partner and outsourced to you for assembly. When it is thought with a clear idea, It is the best way to make a "0" industrial capable country into this prject that hasn't designed anything related with nozzles, hasn't joined any risk-share aerospace project and never have an experience to design/develop anything related with own workshare.







"Anything that scares you is not always propaganda. It may very well be true!
Stop sticking your head to the sand! "



Dude, If you make my head to stick into the sand, You have to do more than What you are doing with Neuron project. I must admit that If I were a Greek against a country like Turkey that is working on own attack/utility helicopter, Tank, AT-Cruise-AA-AG-SAM-SSM missiles, warships, destroyers, radars...etc, I would have been shocked against What I see and bow my head to stick into the sand against those great industrial efforts, While Greece is sinking into the bankruptcy...




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