The so called "Turks"...
  

Hellenes...
 





And the Actual Turks of the Central Asian Steppes.......


Actual Turk.....



Actual Turk..........



Actual Turk........


NOW LISTEN TO ME YOU RETARDED, BRAINWASHED FAKE IDENTITY, FAKE RELIGION PHUCKS!!!!

As you can clearly see, the so-called "Turks" of Anatolia have nothing to do with the actual Central Asian Turks. Today's Anatolians are visibly, genuinely, physically, genetically and even to a great extent culturally, in fact, the converted Greeks of Anatolia......

You may had to learn the language of the invading barbarians due to the great hardships your Anatolian forefathers faced if they didn't comply.... You may had to convert to that backward, Arabic, made up, retarded religion because it spread by the sword and you had no choice......

But now it is time to look at some FACTS of the history and wake up from your 1000 year long dream,,,,,,,,,,

It is time to realise that the most of you, those who live in Western Anatolia, are in fact, HELLENES who have long forgotten your real identity!!!!!!

It is never too late to forget the language of your invaders and to re-learn the language of your forefathers.... It is never too late to drop the religion of the backward Arabs and embrace Greek Orthodoxy, the religion of the infigenous people of Asia Minor......

It is never too late to put aside our artificial and temporary differences and unite as HELLENES under our one and true flag.............

So let me see,

Turks from Central Asia started pouring into Anatolia in late 11th Century, kept advancing and kept pouring on and on. Population grew. And they finally enclosed the Byzantine Empire into a small land around Constaniple in 15th Century, while still kept pouring from Central Anatolia. They conquered Constantinople and ended Byzantium.

They ruled all the Greek population for more than 400 years.

And this dumbfvck believes that those servants assimilated all the Turkish people all around Balkans and Anatolia.

What is more tragic that this dumfvck masturbates on this idea, while suffering from malnutrition and poverty in his actual life, not to count the national misery.

Welcome to the hall of fame of idiocy in WAFF history.

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"Battles are fought with weapons, but they are won with information"

c'mon orko

you know what this guy is saying

simple really, the blood of many Turks is 100% Greek it is just they turned their back on the mother country for reasons of opportunism

now if you are a hardcore steppe turk then good for you.. I respect that too, however allow me to say that I prefer Greek civlization

and I think now that we can look with a cool eye on history I am sure many of your compatriots will see that returning to hellenism is an attractive option


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Today's Turks are really more than 20 different nations who converted to Islam, called themselves Muslims. They had Turkism imposed on them by the CUP(Ittihat ve Terakki Cemiyeti) and the fascist-Islamic, Turkish National state. But they are like the North Koreans of the region and have created a false history which they even seek to export abroad by funding chairs of Ottoman and Turkish history.

Thus most Waff Turks who admit their ancestry admit non-Turkish origins. But like all madrassa bastards, even their fake secular people espouse their false "conqueror" ethos even while admitting Christian armies booted them to Torkgay where abortions and criticizing AKP are illegal.


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Why is vaseline in my sig? Because Turks don't want to read what I post. Hopefully the lube makes it easier for those criminal scum who are such great cry-babies to swallow.

It was not just greeks living in anatolia in the past.Many other groups had lived in Anatolia.Some of them got assimilated into being greek and some other got assimilated to other nations before us.When turks came they assimilated greeks and others.
There were also some other ethnics/groups during middle ages like paulians who werent greek.There were lazuris,georgians,armenians etc.Plus nearly 30 million of Turkish population in Turkey have immigrant background(after the collapse of the ottomans,many ethnic groups escaped to Turkey).There are now many Turks with abhaza,cechnians,bosnians,pomaks origins etc.
It is like Hungary.The hungarians dont look like people coming from West of Asia.They came,conquered.Instead of being assimilated they assimilated others.
What I wanna say,I understand what you re trying to say,but it is normal to mix with different groups.There are basks,bretagnes,normans,gauls in french nation.English are made up of Vikings,keltics,scotchs,normans,saxons etc.They are all mixed.No one is pure.What is important is the dominant part.
Ataturks clearly said that "the people who constitutes the Republic of Turkey is called the Turkish Nation.That is the end.

takataka11: 30 million of Turkish population in Turkey have immigrant background(after the collapse of the ottomans,many ethnic groups escaped to Turkey).There are now many Turks with abhaza,cechnians,bosnians,pomaks origins etc.

You have an authoritative source for this?

And you cannot compare the situation in England, Greece and France to Turkey. In other countries people can speak whatever language, write whatever history they want. There is a dominant national narrative of history, national language, etc., but those states don't use repressive measures and use legal methods to punish people to maintain a "one national, one people, one language" population like in the penal colony you Turks pretend is a proud and democratic nation.

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"here are basks,bretagnes,normans,gauls in french nation.English are made up of Vikings,keltics,scotchs,normans,saxons etc.They are all mixed.No one is pure"

correction.. nations like Turkey, England, France are mixed

nations like Greece, Israel ARE more or less pure... our nations are defined (more or less) on ethnicty and religeon

(as opposed to personality cults etc)

so .. big difference between a nation like Greece or Israel and one like Turkey



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I dont have an authoritative source.I read in many "balkan immigrant's" sites.I'll give you the links,but before that I would like to correct something.it is not .In england a scottish person can not speak his language.It was banned long time,now there are nearly 50 thousands people can speak scottish.France is worse than that.The bask ,bretagnes forgot their language because of french assimilation policy,but There are still half of the population in corsica who can speak corsican language.Europe is not a good example.



Anyway these are the sites that talk about immigrant's(with origin) population,but they are just guesses.Many people think there are 30 million Turks with immigrant origin coming from outside of today's Turkey.Those people mostly call themselves and consider themselves Turkish,so They are turkish.I hope you dont twist this information.


Those are about immigrants with balkan origins

http://www.21yyte.org/tr/yazi6160-Balkan_Gocmenleri_ve_Turkiyedeki_Siyasi_Secimler.html (15-20 million)
http://translate.google.fr/translate?hl=fr&sl=tr&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.balkanlar.net%2Fforum%2Findex.php%3Ftopic%3D14659.10%3Bwap2
http://translate.google.fr/translate?hl=fr&sl=tr&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.munevverduver.com.tr%2Fyazar%2F1182-trkyedek-bonaklar-dasporami.html

We have many immigrants from Caucasus as well.(They think that They are about (3 million)
http://www.cerkesarastirmalari.org/org/cerkesler

ok takataka

I understand what you wanna say but no need to give ammunition to the other side

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@ Romulus
It is not about that.
Ataturk clearly said that "the people which constitutes the Republic of Turkey is called the Turkish Nation.For me that is the end.
And majority of the people in Turkey call themselves Turk.So it is not important whether they come from north,south or east.That is what i wanted to explain.
So whether someone said you have greek blood or armenian blood or bosnian blood.It doesnt matter,what matters is what blood is dominant.it is what we feel.
Your leader of golden dawn party looks like an arab,but he considers himself a greek.That is the end.so he is a greek.
So saying you are greek or you are armenians not gonna work.Anyway,personally i dont ignore the sumerian,hitites or greek heritage in this land as well.It doesn't disturb me being a turk and recognizing there were other civilizations in these lands before us.

biggest misinterpretation of greeks : all greeks think as if once hellenized ancient Anatolian ppl were actual greeks. Thats *********, those ppl once hellenized than turkified doesn't mean they have a direct connection with greeks. so what? once algeria was a french colony, does that make algerians frogs ?
Yes our forefathers love to phuck foreign women and they were always strong enough to get what they want. we turks track back the bloodline by men, not by women.

Fact : greeks had no direct connection with anatolia and its population, they were colonizers and invaders in these lands till a stronger one arrived.

I guess some Greeks want to be Turks.

In the other thread some Greeks wanted to be Janissary haha.

Stop deluding yourself. Real Greek looks like this:


Infact most Greeks look like this. Anatolia is not homeland of Greeks, we took revenge of Troy in 1923 and kicked gypsy gayreeks back to Greece.

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Next week in cinema: Hungry Dancing

if you randomly select any modern "Turk" .. gaffer taped his mouth and dropped him in Kazakstan.. he'd stand out like dogs ballz.. and be mistaken for an Arab.. that's a fact!

if you randomly select any modern "Greek" .. gaffer taped his mouth and dropped him in western Europe.. he'd stand out like dogs ballz.. and be mistaken for a Turk.. that's a fact!





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Were the ones that conquered them by an overwhelming number, yet were the ones with their blood somehow. Put some logic into your thoughts, gentlemen.

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Who's Chuck Norris?

I think this race issue has really upset the Turks on this forum(especially Toga...lol) ...they are nervous and angry that anyone would suggest that they should be oriental in appearance since they historically come from Asia (not that there's anything WONG with that) YET they feel embarrassed and insulted because they look like Arabs (not that there is anything wrong with that either)..

the question we should really be asking is why are the Turko's so sensitive about the way they physically look like.. freud would have a field day with you sicko's...lol

@Vara
You greeks are all going on about the same thing,again,again and again.
It is just boring.When someone needs to repeat himself again and again that is when they get upset.You force us to repeat the same thing again and again.
You open one thread after another one saying the same thing.
Go and tell finnish people that they are not Finns,or tell hungarians they are not hungarians because they dont look like original finns or huns.

if you randomly select any modern "Greek" .. gaffer taped his mouth and dropped him in western Europe.. he'd stand out like dogs ballz.. and be mistaken for a Turk.. that's a fact!
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VARA YOU MALAKA HOW DID YOU LIKE THAT..... HAHAHAHAHA

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Well to be honest Jack.. it was kind of lame and unoriginal.. also, stupid.. we Greeks, might be mistaken for Italians, Spanish or even southern French.. BUT never have i heard of a Greek being thought of by a European as a "Turk" YET.. as you can vouch for yourself.. Turks get mistaken for Arabs.. but the million dollar question is.. why don't Turks get mistaken for Chinese?

Takataka..

First off, the subject is interesting for us as Greeks.. and since the majority of the reply's have been from Turk's, you included.. i think it's safe to say that the subject matter appeals to you Turks too.. 

Modern day "Turk's" don't really have a defining racial identity.. you all look physically different.. NOW the Turk that came screaming and shouting outta central Asia 1000 years ago.. were Asian and identical in looks.. round faces and slanted eyes and short and bow legged..

Yet the Turks look more like the peoples they conquered.. So the ONLY common characteristic that modern Turks have is linguistic.. 

So in short (pardon the pun) ...you Turks are foreigners in your OWN nation..

DUDE I HAVE BLUE EYES LIGHT BROWN HAIR (WHITE ON THE SIDES ) AND WHITE COMPLECTION. HOW DOES THAT MAKE ME LOOK ARAB?

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...and how exactly does that make you look "Turkish"

@Vara

Na!!!!!!!!!!!!

na:no

...and how exactly does that make you look "Turkish"


BECAUSE MY CO#K LOOKS TURK....ITS THICK!

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Vara, you're on me whenever I post, have I become an obsession for you fella?

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Who's Chuck Norris?

Damn how dumb and lying can a nation be?

--- Do I need to remind you Turkrabs about the Alevi soldier whose family didn't want him to have a Sunni funeral, but your fake secular, Taliban military insisted on giving him that Sunni funeral?
--- Do I need to remind that Omer Asan, a Pontian Greek speaking muslim when he tried to research the language he spoke, he could not even find any Professor in your madrassas which you falsely call as Universities with the requisite knowledge?
-- Do I need to remind that Ismail Besikci, the first academic to leave Kemalist fascism to study the Kurdish language and history and reject the "mountain Turk" state propaganda, only received jail for his troubles?

You are an amalgamation of over 20 different "sperm of the sword" converted Islamic nations. Even today Turkish identity is maintained by censorship, repression and force. Without force and repression for sure, Kurds would split your country to join with their brethern if possible and you know this. This is why you purpose to genocide them everyday on WAFF, because to your inhuman excrement nation land is worth genociding everyone for.

Can you Taliban point me to:
1) Proof that the entire Greek university system has no knowledge of any single traditional language spoken in Greece?
2) That the Greek state forces a certain type of funeral against a family?
3) That a state line on "national issues" exists and that academics and writers get jailed for crossing it?

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Why is vaseline in my sig? Because Turks don't want to read what I post. Hopefully the lube makes it easier for those criminal scum who are such great cry-babies to swallow.

"Vara, you're on me whenever I post, have I become an obsession for you fella"

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Nah.. i just like reading your silly comments.. it's almost like you're having problems breathing while your posting your reply's.. i bet you feel dizzy right now! ...like i said, it's fun to watch.. 

Have a nice day..

@nikephoros
Na!(I loved this expression).
By the way you are all wrong about what you wrote.
First;Every soldier is buried according to the wishes of his family.If there are different demands,it gets complicated/
Example:FIRST CLASS Senior NCO enters the Gendarmerie, who died fighting terrorists in Sirnak Murat Bayram(Gendarmerie special forces), Altınbaşak town located 15 kilometers from Erzincan CEMEVI funeral prayers at the funeral was buried in tears.
http://www.habermonitor.com/en/haber/detay/martyr-day-was-sent-off-in-the-last-journey-o/112146/

İsmail Beşikçi was imprisoned because of his marxist ideas.
During those time many people were treated badly.He is not a special case.

you greeks didnt recognize turks for a long time.Yo called them muslim greeks.
you appointed a muftu against the wishes of turkish people.you are not better.

In different enviorments, living organizms tend to change there attributs. Im not a biologist, BUT EVEN I KNOW THIS ! What on gods green earth do they teach you retards in school ?

"Why do "Turks" keep denying the obvious?"


Almost all of these WAFF so called "born warriors" are decendents of slaves. Only 2-3 of the Turks have Asian features in here. The rest were enslaved and converted either because they were weak or because they were greedy for money and tax discounts.

They deny the obvious because they prefer to believe they are from Central Asia, instead of tellaks who got defeated and got on their knees.





Hellas, Hellas, n tav n epi tas