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if we had the same cutting edge spirit in science philosophy and technology

imagine if greeks was the no1 centre in the world for

- theoretical physics research
- robotics
- IT

something like FermiLab, CERN and Silicon Valley combined

if we had the best ship building in the world

making stuff like Waly boat, destroyers, guided missile cruisers etc, stealth

http://www.wally.com/

if we had the top car design bureaus, art studios, fashion etc

if we had the best universities in europe

we need to capture this spirit again!



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if if if if if if if if my aunt had testicles she'd be my uncle. Keep living in the dream world.

Imagin if this Forum would be free from Romulus the idiot!

LOL

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Ne Mutlu Türküm Diyene - NMTD

"Özgürlük ve bagimsizlik benim karakterimdir"

Mustafa Kemal ATATÜRK
(Nutuk, 1919)

Br
NMTD

Ancient Hellas' power was neither it's soldiers nor it's science nor it's philosophy...
It was the soul and the will of the people...So it's the people that need to change and everything else will come (sovereignty, power, justice).

If the people change Hellas will reclaim it's lost glory...

I agree with Shadow..

I found this quote from Demaratus when he addressed the Persian king Xerxes.. and thought of all the achievements of our race..  This is the one that we need the most during these tough times.. Respect for the rule of law and courage in the face of adversity..

Now pay attention Turks for numbers mean nothing to us..

"The same goes for the Spartans. One-against-one, they are as good as anyone in the world. But when they fight in a body, they are the best of all. For though they are free men, they are not entirely free. They accept Law as their master. And they respect this master more than your subjects respect you. Whatever he commands, they do. And his command never changes: It forbids them to flee in battle, whatever the number of their foes. He requires them to stand firm -- to conquer or die. O king, if I seem to speak foolishly, I am content from this time forward to remain silent. I only spoke now because you commanded me to. I do hope that everything turns out according to your wishes."

Greece is already like ancient times except for demographics. There are no longer Ancient Greeks and so city-states. Geography of Greece consists of a single state and people who immigrated there once are called Greeks.

@Turks in this thread

please no trolling in my threads

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@Romlooser

You and your Threads are big TROLL shyt!!!

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Ne Mutlu Türküm Diyene - NMTD

"Özgürlük ve bagimsizlik benim karakterimdir"

Mustafa Kemal ATATÜRK
(Nutuk, 1919)

Br
NMTD

kids on drugs... to be fair... you would be gayer then now if that would be the case..

This thread made me remember some parts of the lyrics from an old song.

To dream the impossible dream
To fight the unbeatable foe
To bear with unbearable sorrow

How about wishing for:

Honest politicians who work for the benefit of people who elected them instead of their own benefits.

Honest people who pay their share of the taxes.

Hard studying and working people.

Türkiye Türklerindir!

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Griks In Despair