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i like it that looks very modern and safe

"i like it that looks very modern and safe"

Can never be safe enough ....i have really funny feelings about this .

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Love how people are scared. Japans 50 year old installations survived a 9.0 earthquake but lost against the tsunami afterwards. What makes people think a 21th century plant won't survive a similar earthquake.

We need many more plants, Sinop should be awarded to the Japanese or Koreans.

They talk about a 3rd nuclear plant in Thrace. The 4th should be around Ankara/Eskisehir.

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No matter the era, whichever the society, people always gaze at the stars when young. Then they stretch out their hands and try to catch them. And then one day, they realize their arms are not long enough to catch the stars, and thats when they grow up.

Turkey has decided to build nuclear plants. They say they want cheap electricity, but the obvious target is to acquire materials for making nuclear weapons in the long term.

Akuyu area has produced many very big earthquakes in the past. So does all of Turkey, and so does Greece. This is one reason Greece turned down proposals to build nuclear power plants in the past.

The Akuyu reactors will be supplied by the Russians. Russians make great military equipment, but they are not exactly the pioneers of nuclear safety, as Chernobyl pointed out. If there is an earthquake in Akuyu, it will trigger such an accident that will make Chernobyl pale in comparison. Turks will suffer, and so will we.

Nuclear reactors can be made safer against earthquakes by making a much more robust construction. But this would skyrocket the cost, and the choice of a Russian supplier indicates that the Turks want to do this cheaply. It is sad that we do not see a serious citizens' movement in Turkey against this madness.

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"The Turkish Cypriots looted, robbed and ravaged Greek Cypriot properties. They must start producing instead of being mere consumers. The Turkish Cypriots wanted to live without working!"

Major-General Bedrettin Demirel (1917-1988)
Commander of the Turkish Invasion Forces in 1974

What a shitty 3d ...



This is a good example of 3d ...

America had the 3 Mile Island accident, American nuclear safety is not reliable... If we judge all nuclear powers because of 1 accident then no country is reliable. What a logic.


We didn't choose Russia out of budget reasons, we don't have the problem of Griks. We will pay almost 25 billion dollars for the planet wich is 5 times the price of a nuclear plant in the 80s. Costs vary for different plants, educate yourself before telling us we're using the cheap Russians. I dont think we're cutting anything, it will probably be the safest nuclear plant once its finished conform to the latest standards.

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No matter the era, whichever the society, people always gaze at the stars when young. Then they stretch out their hands and try to catch them. And then one day, they realize their arms are not long enough to catch the stars, and thats when they grow up.

Why structure dont have mosque ?

@konstantiniye: blue prints are sh1tty too, we have Rembrandt and Van Gogh :/

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No matter the era, whichever the society, people always gaze at the stars when young. Then they stretch out their hands and try to catch them. And then one day, they realize their arms are not long enough to catch the stars, and thats when they grow up.

These nuclear power plants need huge amount of water nearby for cooling&safety purposes this is why they are mostly built on seasides/lakesides/riversides.

So I don't expect any nuclear power plant projects in central anatolia. There won't be any nuclear plant in Ankara or Eskisehir.



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I personally support nuclear energy. Japan is located on "Pacific Ring of Fire" where about 90% of the world's earthquakes and 81% of the world's largest earthquakes occur. Turkey's energy imports is going to reach about $65 B by the end of this year. However Russians must be eliminated above all. %32 of Turkish electricity is produced from natural gas and Russia is the biggest supplier of Turkey. They wouldn't wish to lose their 3th biggest market.

"Love how people are scared. Japans 50 year old installations survived a 9.0 earthquake but lost against the tsunami afterwards. What makes people think a 21th century plant won't survive a similar earthquake."

Its all about odds. However if against all odds a serious accident happens the consequences
for people, nature and economy will be devastating.

Also Japan is known for its superb structures that can handle earthquakes, Turkey is known
about the earthquake 10 years ago that leveled thousants of buildings.

It is extremely safe guys, stop tripping about it. All this vapid talk of the world ending in case of an earthquake is baseless gibberish, as these plants are TODAY built with impressive safety features, including the ability to withstand a commercial airliner slamming to it.

Akkuyu will feature the next-generation Russian VVER-1200 reactors, 4 of them. Cooling towers are not needed because of the reactors' proximity to the sea. If anything, this actually makes them even more reliable as it cuts down on the amount of complex plumbing a little bit.

Nuclear energy is a NECESSITY for Turkey. Never compare the industrious Turkey with its huge population and growing energy needs with the bankrupt olive oil republic of Greece. There's just no comparison.

Also, if you must trip over nuclear reactors being "unsafe" in Turkey, trip over the Armenian's still operating an 'ancient' 40-year-old Metsamor nuclear plant (a la Chernobyl style) right at the Turkish-Armenian border against all international requests to shut it down. This powerplant doesn't have half the safety standards and features that Akkuyu will have.

When it's done right, and with today's high IAEA safety regulations it definitely is done right, nuclear energy is clean, efficient and reliable.

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corpus how many times have you disposed nuclear material to know that it is 100% safe and These structure's will be safe .

Which one of you can give this promise?

japanese? no fukin way ...Russians? Americans? fuk that they all built their nuclear plants and said the same thing to people asking questions about their safety and risks ...they called them ... stupid ...coward ...


well the actual problem is you not thinking about the risks that are being taken here . the biggest mistakes in history of mankind occur because of Human Error ....and everything made by humans is prone to Human Error this includes that FUKIN POWER PLANT. we have to ask this is it worth taking this risk?

We all heard those promises of taking facilities under check ...and what happened? Barrels of toxic waste turned up under the hills in ISTANBUL.

we will just wait and see for them to get greedy to find a new way of disposing those nuclear waste's ...

You clap now ... thats what happens nowadays ...when 1 sheep claps rest follows really quickly thinking every will be all right . Asking questions and feeling itchy is the abnormal thing to do ofcourse .

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Corpus nailed it. If there is a threat in the region, then its that old soviet nuclear plant in Armenia, your orthodog brothers.

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No matter the era, whichever the society, people always gaze at the stars when young. Then they stretch out their hands and try to catch them. And then one day, they realize their arms are not long enough to catch the stars, and thats when they grow up.

Turkey should never have nuclear. It is too unreliable of a country and their bandit government and mafia military will become the biggest proliferators of nuclear materials for money.

Nuke plants need the power grid to run continuously for cooling and they also needs billions of gallons of waters or else they will meltdown. The Turkish primitive ape nation cannot even make earthquake proof two story buildings. So if an earthquake comes and they lose their grid, they will irradiate the whole region after back up power runs out(assuming it even kicks in).

This subhuman nation absolutely must not have nuclear power -- the Greek Soviet government inherited from PASOK needs to wake up on such issues. Luckily though, the Israelis are very, very pro-active unlike the Greek side about not sitting and watching their enemies developing nuclear capabilities while they sit on their hands.

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No matter the era, whichever the society, people always gaze at the stars when young. Then they stretch out their hands and try to catch them. And then one day, they realize their arms are not long enough to catch the stars, and thats when they grow up.

@ GY

"as Chernobyl pointed out."

Seems like you dont have knowledge about Chernobyl. Chernobyl was 30 years ago, even back than it wasn't directly a technical failure, more it was a mistake made by some engineers. They didn't have experience, I think after 30 years there is enough experience to say those 21th century reactors are 'quite save'... An example for that is Japan as explained above, also after Fukishima there is much more knowledge on the effects of earth quakes and even Tsunamis... I believe Turkey will also get tech. transfer from Japan and Japs will build one of our next nuclear plants...

Ofcourse there will always be some risks...

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Kindly stfu up. Nuclear plants are not safe. USA has not built a new one in decades. Japan closed down theirs. Germany is doing the same. Even the most pro-nuclear power nation, France, sees it is a dead end.

The only reason why your criminal state is interested is to obtain nuclear weapons to become a nuclear rogue state in the future instead of a conventional one. Your mafia like people don't even have the culture or civilization necessary for safe driving, which is much simpler:

http://travel.state.gov/travel/tips/tips_1518.html
"DRIVER SAFETY BRIEFING FOR TURKEY"

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"-- Drive each day as though you were on a mission: the goal of which is not to be involved in an accident, cause an accident or strike a pedestrian."

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"-- Stopping in unexpected locations to pick up or let off passengers by cars, buses and trucks, including main highway entrance ramps, intersections, and along major highways."

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Ditto for Aviation safety:
G&T Thead: Turkish pilots are dangerous

Imagine subhuman land Turkey with nuclear power plants! They will be smuggling nuclear materials to every country possible.

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AFAIK, Turkey's agreement with Russia includes spent fuel disposal. Turkey is to get its nuclear fuel from Russia and will ship back the spent fuel rods for recycling/reprocessing IN RUSSIA. Therefore, no nuclear waste will be stored within the borders of Turkey.

Even though I'd personally favor a national nuclear recycling center in order to gain even more nuclear technology, know how and materials suitable for research, reprocessing and perhapos even future weapons, from an environmental point of view the deal really doesn't get any better than this for a country just starting out with nuclear energy. We're doing it in the most risk-reduced and "clean" way possible considering our geopolitical situation and rapidly growing energy needs.

 

AFAIK fat excrement Islamic monkey acting tough in gavur USA, Fatestvile,

Your monkey people cannot drive safely or even find qualified candidates to pilot airplanes who are rational, know English and can follow safety procedures. Simply you don't have the necessary talent pool with the proper mentality to even recruit professional airline pilots from despite offering very competitive salaries.

Your stupid ultra-nationalist nuclear ambitions threaten the whole region. You are not capable Israelis. Stop spouting your primitive Arabesque nonsense on this forum, you filthy Islamic traitor to the USA.

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Quite obviously that parasitic Greek animal has profound mental retardation. Most likely his frontal cortex failed during development, he will never understand how immature he looks now.

First of all it's foreign contractors who design & build nuclear power plant and reactor because quite obviously very few nations have that capability to do so. And it's impossible to build nuclear weapons with just commercial reactors under IAEA's control. This racist greek animal should know that. Turkey already operates two test reactors since 1970s and it won't be that hard to train dedicated personel.

Turkey and Greece have been left backwards by western nations. Currently Greece is at the bottom of everything meanwhile Turkey destroy its chains. This is why that Greek chitbrain is mad.









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It's funny to watch the Griks and the forum joo flip out about Turkey's next-gen project while there's a 40-year-old EXISTING nuclear power plant in Armenia STILL operating in the most unsafe way possible despite immense international criticism and outcry, and while Israel itself is already a de facto nuclear weapons state.

You deluded hypocrites and wanna-be environmentalists need to reassess the regional nuclear threats and really stop being complete fvcking clowns as everyone can easily see right through your fake sensitivities, ethnocentric thinking and petty political agendas. 

 

Yea, even orthodox losers in Bulgaria and Armenia operate half a decade old nuclear reactors which don't meet any kind of safety standards.

Turkish nuclear power plants will have the latest safety features.



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Two questions..

1.. what guarantee's do we have that the plant will be used for peaceful purpose's..

2.. and if not.. will the Americans make Turkey comply like they're doing with Iran?

 

 

Only a dirty bomb can be developed via commercial nuclear reactors. And it's still impossible under IAEA's supervision. Also Russians or Japs won't let that happen in a nuclear power plant which they built. And most importantly, nuclear material has to be enriched in a dedicated facility in order to build an A-bomb.





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Fat man, Turkish ultra-nationalist in the USA,

Bulgaria and Armenia are not genocidal, bandit states like the one you cheerlead for that you will never live in ever, lol. Your officials and military are the biggest human and drug smugglers in all of Eurasia. Allowing them to have access to nuclear by-products is a crime against humanity. The Amir Khan network would like children before them.

Like I pointed out, your nation has no respect for safety even amongst highly paid airline professionals.

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"Bulgaria and Armenia are not genocidal, bandit states"



oh boy, these orthodox animals are way worse than their islamist counterparts.



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No one cares for the opinions of criminals pretending to be a nation called Turks. Your opinions are all pro criminality and crimes against humanity.

Much more capable states due to the increased sensitivity for nuclear safety after Fukushima have decided to abandon nuclear power as a future option, rather than take heightened precautions. Your bandit state cannot even regulate buildings to be earthquake proof, nor can it make roads safe for driving with your Arabesque people who instead do whatever they want behind the wheel, nor can your aviation authorities and airlines find pilots with a professional attitude necessary for safety. If Turkey goes nuclear the Caucasus - Mideast - Balkans will be in huge danger.

All you idiots are good for is bragging and cheerleading your fanatic leaders.



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Varangian,

What guarantees you'll have? None.

At least nothing outside of the IAEA guidelines and their regular inspections that are carried out around the world. Turkey couldn't give a rat's arse what little puny Gris has to say about how we'll meet our rapidly growing energy needs. We certainly don't need Grik permission and no one's asking Gris anything about, well, anything. Stop worrying about what we're doing and instead worry about paying back your phucking debts you useless deatbeats!

 

Nikiphoros, are you using any special sauce or seasoning as you're eating your heart out in utter jealousy?

Fat ultra-nationalist Turkish traitor in USA, my heart-rate is likely much lower than your obese islamic rodent as3. You will be dead decades before me, being overweight is a huge burden to the heart and every bodily system. You are just a pathetic as3 mindless devlet worshipper like most Turks and don't impress anyone with the dribble out of your keyboard. The only people in your corner are fellow rogues calling themselves Turks. But that doesn't count because Turks don't have critical minds.

Here are some of the many articles questioning the claims that nuclear power was ever safe and how most nations are exiting the nuclear power game due to this:
http://bigthink.com/ideas/37724
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/30/germany-nuclear-power-plant-shut-down_n_868786.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/17/opinion/is-indian-point-the-next-fukushima.html?_r=1
http://www.ucanews.com/2011/12/15/nuclear-power-not-safe-says-expert/
http://www.helencaldicott.com/2011/03/caldicott-japan-may-spell-end-of-nuclear-industry-worldwide/

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I totally support nuclear power plants in Turkey. Those who offering wind and sun instead of nuclear, should clearly convince us how they will be enough for our industrial progress in next decade.

we need cheap energy to reduce production prices.

Also its absurd being against such a clean and cheap energy source while France producing %74 of its energy requirement from Nuclear Plants.

BTW if Greeks are against it, that means we are on the true way.. They are also against our defence industry.. LoL

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Oh what a joy it is to read your confused, jealous ramblings Niki. You sure are worth a line or two every once in a while.  

Seriously, I'm loving this. Griks are in the chit in every sense of the word. Economically, politically, socially, culturally. And as if it's not enough, they keep hearing great economic news about Turkey on a daily basis and can't comprehend why their TV stations keep showing them Turkish programs while we;re digging their graves and their slutty actresses are crying their tits off for being unemployed. They've come to the point of flipping out at the mere SIGHT of the first Turkish nuclear powerplant 3D image.... Imagine what they'll do when it's actually built and operational!

I think I'll send Niki to a yoga class. It should help him both with his jealousy-induced stress and poverty-induced low carb diet.

 

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It's funny to watch the Griks and the forum joo flip out about Turkey's next-gen project while there's a 40-year-old EXISTING nuclear power plant in Armenia STILL operating in the most unsafe way possible despite immense international criticism and outcry, and while Israel itself is already a de facto nuclear weapons state.

You deluded hypocrites and wanna-be environmentalists need to reassess the regional nuclear threats and really stop being complete fvcking clowns as everyone can easily see right through your fake sensitivities, ethnocentric thinking and petty political agendas.
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I have a feeling that your comment also included me in it so i will take the liberty to answer .


First of all i am nowhere near being an environmentalist ... but i am merely a smart developer .

Pointing out the risks and possible problems.

You have pointed out that these factory's have 100% safety ...and i told you there is no such thing as 100% SAFETY .

Even if there is a 1% chance of it failing . Then it would eventually fail .

If thinking about possibility of it failing is being a "stop being complete fvcking clowns as everyone can easily see right through your fake sensitivities" in your words then i would F*KIN HAPPILY BE ONE INSTEAD OF A SHEEP FOLLOWING THE FIRST ONE IN LINE .

You have no fuking problem living in US of course ...if there is 1 thing wrong with that reactor ...you will watch it on the news and think oh now people that live in there are fuked ...YES THATS FUKING RIGHT ...
Even government is aware of this issue so they choose Akkuyu because it is not as populated as the other parts in the region . You see this is risk management ...and i am merely pointing it out ...instead of thinking ....

OH YEAH WE ARE GREAT TURKISH NATION WE NEED A NUCLEAR PLANT ...NUCLEAR PLANT ALWAYS GOOD ...ALWAYS THE BEST ...NO NO ISSUES 100% EVERYTHING PROOF...

But we all know any single problem in that power plant will effect not only that town but Mediterranean and even surrounding country's ...

As for the AFAIK the agreement with Russia will not only increase the cost of operating this facility (which is really stupid because the strong side of a nuclear plant for being cheap to operate will diminish) but also this will bound us to the Russian supply's . You see your argument is development and growth but by doing it with Russian Uranium and Tech you merely save yourself from Arab Oil to jump in to Russian Uranium ... Is this smart development? Yes maybe in your sheepish mind .But in my opinion it is slavery from one natural resource to another. We all know how Russia fluctuate's the Natural Gas prices with control of supply flow . Imagine it done to Uranium when we are dependent on Nuclear power plant . Sure you do not think about these ... IT IS NUCLEAR POWER ALL MIGHT TURKS HAVE NUCLEAR CAPABILITY'S NOW .


Trying to justify its risks with pointing out Israel's and Armenia's Nuclear plants will erase all the risks out of smart people's minds for sure . Well how about this pal ... I have no fuking connection or care about Armenia and Israel also their country operating it is their problem .Your aim to justify building nuclear plant simply because the 40 year old tech in Armenia did not explode does not only point out how tight you are thinking about this issue but even like a child like.


I want my country to have a Nuclear Plant . Why not cheaper energy sufficient to supply thousands of households ... Will encourage industrial growth so happy . However dream is nowhere near the reality . This will not provide cheaper alternative to sources we are using .

Japanese built ... Russian Fuelled(even operated up to a point) ....Nuclear Plants ...what are we doing? yeah we will clean the floors ...way to go indigenous growth ...

What an AKP way of thinking .

Follow the first sheep in the line.



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Anyone who thinks about the environment should support this nuclear power plant. Nuclear power is the greenest, it's cheap and it's safe. We will also have the raw materials for nukes, in case Iran becomes a threat in the future.
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