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Sad songs from lost Homelands - Trapezounta (Pontos), Smyrni

July 23 2012 at 1:01 PM
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Pontos:
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Smyrni:
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Aivali
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sad lullaby from asia minor:
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sad songs to remember lost homelands.... these songs talk of indigenous people kicked out of their homelands, living somewhere for 1000s of years and then some strangers coming and wiping you out by force

however all the signs are that we will get at least some of it back







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Re: Sad songs from lost Homelands - Trapezounta (Pontos), Smyrni

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July 23 2012, 1:03 PM 

so that nobody forgets the second home of Hellas which is in Asia Minor

remember the double headed eagle looks WEST and EAST also....and one day the Phoenix shall rise in the EAST too, as it did in the WEST

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July 23 2012, 1:36 PM 

Maybe Greeks should be sad for the Trojans. Greeks in Anatolia meant Terror and we Turks fixed that problem once and for all. After all Turks are the airs of the Trojan. This is proven scientifically. We Turks revenged Troy and kicked out the invaders to their Gayreece homeland.

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Re: Sad songs from lost Homelands - Trapezounta (Pontos), Smyrni

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July 23 2012, 1:46 PM 

first of all Trojans was a Greek tribe .. if you don't believe me go read some Homer first and then we talk ...

secondly you should be more respectful and sad in this thread if you will comment because of all the innocent people who lost their natural homelands they had been living in for millenia... capadoccia, pontos, trapezounta, aivali, aeolia, smyrni etc

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Re: Sad songs from lost Homelands - Trapezounta (Pontos), Smyrni

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July 23 2012, 1:52 PM 

Moron I read the Ilaid, no where it says Trojans are Greeks.

Trojan language was asiatic not Greek, Trojan DNA is not Greek it is Turkish. Greeks are not home to Anatolia.

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Re: Sad songs from lost Homelands - Trapezounta (Pontos), Smyrni

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July 23 2012, 1:54 PM 

I can show you a link about what your ancestors did to the people of Samsouna (Amisos) so that you can see for yourself.. I think once you start reading these things you can purify your soul , cry out of guilt and ask for forgiveness, this is the only decent thing a humane person can do (who has shame)

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=el&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.akrites.de%2Fsites%2Fgr%2Fstaedte_pontos.htm&act=url

AMISOS (SAMSUN)
Today Samsun, Turkey, the western city of Pontus, on the shores of the Black Sea. But the word Samsun has its root from Amisus:
s Amisus - s'Amison - s'Amson - Sampson
The Amisus the 19th century had approximately 1000 families. Of these 500 families were 150 Greek and Armenian. She had two Greek neighborhoods. The first settlement was called Kadikioglou quarter and had 350 houses. She had two churches and two schools. The school was a pure Greek and the other was a mutual. The second quarter was 150 families, with a Greek school and a mutual one, as well as a Girls' School. The surrounding county has approximately 8000 inhabitants, of whom 2000 were Turkish speaking Greeks.
There were also the following social institutions: The Philoptochos Sisterhood (Orthodoxy), the Ladies Philoptochos Sisterhood, the Greek Association Panefxeineios (Anagennisis), the Music Association (Orpheus), the Greek Commercial Club, the Brotherhood (Patriarch Photios the Confessor) The Civil Society (Pericles), the Association of Wine, the Association of Sinope and the tobacco workers' unions. In Amisus issued and the newspaper (Light), at first weekly, then twice a week.
It was a colony of Milesians and then the Athenians, who gave the name Piraeus. He had numerous ruins. The church of St Theodore became a mosque. The seat was Amisus commander, under the general administration of Trebizond. After 1914 began a rapid decline and full exafanismos the Greek and Armenian population Amisus because of persecution and genocide known organizations, which began with the first great war ended and the contract of exchange, in January 1923. Those of the Greeks 20000 managed to survive, or in prison and exile or in town (little old men and women), the exchange came to Greece and settled in Athens, Piraeus, Thessaloniki and elsewhere.

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Re: Sad songs from lost Homelands - Trapezounta (Pontos), Smyrni

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July 23 2012, 2:11 PM 

Romulus, why do you have waste time answering to every clown of this forum?
Make fun of him if you want, but do not engage in serious discussion with such people.

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July 23 2012, 6:15 PM 

Devoted to all of us who have Ionian ancestors:
ANATOLH ANATOLH by Manolis Mitsias





ANATOLH ANATOLH, DIKH SOY EIMASTE FYLH!

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"The Turkish Cypriots looted, robbed and ravaged Greek Cypriot properties. They must start producing instead of being mere consumers. The Turkish Cypriots wanted to live without working!"

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Re: Sad songs from lost Homelands - Trapezounta (Pontos), Smyrni

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July 23 2012, 11:04 PM 

that was wonderful Gavur

we will never forget our homes in Ionia

same way the Jews never forgot Israel

and one day they came back

once the Turks and the Arabs were building Mosques out of Gold in Jerusalem

then the Jews came back

and now they are 'harvesting' Arabs , Turks with Apaches and Merkavas

soon the Greeks will come back also (to Ionia)

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July 23 2012, 11:21 PM 

as far as Agia Sophia is concerned I Think there is nothing more beautiful than seeing her without the minarets on

my opinion is - because I am not a barbarian and appreciate all art - is that when the Russians take Constantinople they should not demolish the minarets, on the contrary they should removed them carefully and put them in a brand new museum (say in Diyarbakir) along with all the other Turkish relics

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July 23 2012, 11:28 PM 

You will have alot of more dreams founded by fortune cookies and sing sad songs for eternity... turks are not scared nor conquered. You saw what happend last time someone tried... Faggot..

 
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July 24 2012, 12:02 AM 

Romugay,your cries and screams sounds like song to our ears!We took what we deserved,you were never indegious nation of Anatolia,only invader from west,who destroyed Troy first.Romans conquered Anatolia not gayreeks!After Roman Empire divided into two parts,you found it like gift.
We are victorious and saved your asses and did not destroy you totaly until you betrayed us,your Masters.
After war in 1922,you were kicked because you betrayed us and tried to clean and massacre us from Anatolia
The western powers who sent you and backed you at first step abandoned you,thus you fvcked up!
We burnt out what left from insects like you,Izmir is now Turkish city forever,you fvcked get used to it!

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Look at those poor gayreeks and see your own destiny romugay!Those bunch of greeks were victims of great fire!Maybe some of your family members around there,huh? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!! happy.gifhappy.gif

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July 24 2012, 12:04 AM 

last time someone tried?

last time someone tried you lost the whole balkans, the levant, mesopotamia and the oil fields of iraq (mosul)

LOL

you are lucky to have what you have

and Constantinople?

only because of the Bolsheviks in Russia you have it now.. otherwise your borders would be those of the treaty of sevres

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July 24 2012, 12:06 AM 

don't forget the KIRMIZI ELMAN'IN!

(translation : the red apple)

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Re: Sad songs from lost Homelands - Trapezounta (Pontos), Smyrni

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July 24 2012, 12:08 AM 

Pusti, Jagoff, other weakling Turks, you forget that we gavur made you an almost 50% refugee nation. In addition with some overlap there are at least 20+ million Alevis and the same number of Kurds. Meaning if a "Turkish" wimp is not from refugee ancestry, then they are likely from an oppressed religious sect or ethnic identity like Kurds. Your lame madrassa propaganda of "never conquered," "cannot be defeated Turks" only impresses in your little circle jerk world.


G&T Thread:Why do "Turks" keep denying the obvious?
Nikephoros: Today's Turks are really more than 20 different nations who converted to Islam, called themselves Muslims. They had Turkism imposed on them by the CUP(Ittihat ve Terakki Cemiyeti) and the fascist-Islamic, Turkish National state.


takataka11: When turks came they assimilated greeks and others.
There were also some other ethnics/groups during middle ages like paulians who werent greek.There were lazuris,georgians,armenians etc.Plus nearly 30 million of Turkish population in Turkey have immigrant background(after the collapse of the ottomans,many ethnic groups escaped to Turkey).There are now many Turks with abhaza,cechnians,bosnians,pomaks origins etc.

Those are about immigrants with balkan origins

http://www.21yyte.org/tr/yazi6160-Balkan_Gocmenleri_ve_Turkiyedeki_Siyasi_Secimler.html (15-20 million)
http://translate.google.fr/translate?hl=fr&sl=tr&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.balkanlar.net%2Fforum%2Findex.php%3Ftopic%3D14659.10%3Bwap2
http://translate.google.fr/translate?hl=fr&sl=tr&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.munevverduver.com.tr%2Fyazar%2F1182-trkyedek-bonaklar-dasporami.html

We have many immigrants from Caucasus as well.(They think that They are about (3 million)
http://www.cerkesarastirmalari.org/org/cerkesler


Drop your Neo-Ottomanism imperialist ambitions and leave Islam or else we will refugee more Islamic bandits to Turkgay.

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July 24 2012, 12:10 AM 

Well, same for Greeks, if Greece was conquered by Germany, no Greek would exist since Germans didn't like gypsy and swarthy people.

You only live because of Italian military inadequacy.

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Re: Sad songs from lost Homelands - Trapezounta (Pontos), Smyrni

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July 24 2012, 1:53 AM 

GavurYunan please be carefull next time this is a english speaking forum,
next time please make an english translation of the lyrics you post.

 
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Re: Sad songs from lost Homelands - Trapezounta (Pontos), Smyrni

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July 24 2012, 2:22 AM 

Uh what??

These Greeks would still be living in Trabzon, if Greece had stayed neutral after the WWI. That military adventure ended terribly for Greece. Greeks don't have anyone to blame but themselves. You were the belligerent and irredentist ones yet you lost the war.

Case of Greece and Greeks in 1922 is pretty similar with case of Nazi Germany in 1945. Nobody talks about a German genocide in spite of millions of German civilians were killed by the allies. Think about it.



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July 24 2012, 10:41 AM 

Romo you inbreed offspring, there is a grave difference between the ottoman empire and the turkish republic. besides, sovjet never lost its territories neither. You dont know it, but what you call "your home" is still ours.

 
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July 24 2012, 11:40 AM 

Beryoza:
It is impossible to translate an entire video, I cannot spend the entire day doing such things.

The Turks never translate Turkish speaking videos. They only translate written texts, by Google translator, and the result is usually unintelligible. At least I provide decent translations of the texts I post, because I do the job myself, not the machine.

Let us be a little reasonable regarding the English translation rule.

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"The Turkish Cypriots looted, robbed and ravaged Greek Cypriot properties. They must start producing instead of being mere consumers. The Turkish Cypriots wanted to live without working!"

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July 24 2012, 2:40 PM 

turkified greeks in turkey

http://youtu.be/5ZCsYWRu4bI

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""Maniots, known for their martial qualities, were the first to join the Greek liberation movement. The society called the Filiki Eteria ("Company of Friends") sent their representatives Perrevos and Chrisospathis to organize the Maniots. On March 17, 1821, 12,000 Maniots gathered in the church of Taxiarchs (Archangels) of Areopoli and declared war against the Ottoman Empire. The flag of the revolution was white with a blue cross in the center. On top of the flag there was a sign, "Victory or death". The Maniots were responsible for writing "Victory" and not "Freedom" on their banner since Mani was always free. On the bottom of the flag lied an ancient inscription, "With the shield or on the shield."
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July 24 2012, 2:43 PM 

more videos







turkified greeks



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""Maniots, known for their martial qualities, were the first to join the Greek liberation movement. The society called the Filiki Eteria ("Company of Friends") sent their representatives Perrevos and Chrisospathis to organize the Maniots. On March 17, 1821, 12,000 Maniots gathered in the church of Taxiarchs (Archangels) of Areopoli and declared war against the Ottoman Empire. The flag of the revolution was white with a blue cross in the center. On top of the flag there was a sign, "Victory or death". The Maniots were responsible for writing "Victory" and not "Freedom" on their banner since Mani was always free. On the bottom of the flag lied an ancient inscription, "With the shield or on the shield."
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July 24 2012, 8:50 PM 

Who knows,

but I told you 10000 times... I'm not from Trapezounta, I'm from Trabzon. I was born as a Turk and so I will die.

Not that I don't respect greek kemence players which immigrated to todays greece.


As I told ya, I also play kemence. Maybe in the future I will buy a greek lyra, because kemence and lyra have different sounds. For me, it doesn't matter if somebody who has the same culture as me is turkish or greek. If Makoulis Tsaxouridis comes to Turkey, Blacksee.. I will welcome him as we did some years ago during Kadirga Senlik (Festival on Mountains)...


I hate that our nations are traditional enemies, I would hope that we could enjoy the similarities of our cultures, WITHOUT EVEN THINKING if it was Ottoman Empire who brought Baklava to Greece or if Baklava existed before the Ottoman Empire..

And the most thing I hate is propaganda. Because of people thinking like you today we cannot achieve peace. Look at europe. Are french and germans still talking about something from WW I or WW II ?!?! Nope, that was in the past.

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July 24 2012, 9:05 PM 

"Look at those poor gayreeks and see your own destiny romugay!Those bunch of greeks were victims of great fire!Maybe some of your family members around there,huh? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!! "


As a doctor I conclude that this type of racial hate derives from the fact that you have a small penis

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July 24 2012, 10:26 PM 

izmir!


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pussySedef. ooof, of...

 
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"Look at those poor gayreeks and see your own destiny romugay!Those bunch of greeks were victims of great fire!Maybe some of your family members around there,huh? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!! "


As a doctor I conclude that this type of racial hate derives from the fact that you have a small penis


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That comments deserves a medal... fukking hillarioius !

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Nice to see some funny comments, besides all racial and troll posts ! keep it up bro.

 
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July 25 2012, 1:29 AM 

Jagare : I am tired with the hate comments. I wonder dont people in WAFF ever get laid ? WTF ???

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July 25 2012, 2:56 AM 

Dont know bro, but if they dont they should. Why fight when you can make love happy.gif

 
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July 25 2012, 8:47 AM 

the saddest thing about this thread is that turks do not recognize the sadness in these songs

indigenous anatolian greeks

kicked out

killed

devastated

torn from their rightful lands

replaced with invaders

instead of shame the only comments I see is arrogance and hatred

I Am amazed at how some of the comments are actually praising the genocide that occured against the greek indigenous populations of anatolia !!

real sad... and shameful... what a black page in history

we do not forget our homelands however

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July 25 2012, 8:47 AM 

This is one of my favorite Pontian songs:



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July 25 2012, 9:20 AM 

Greeks received what they deserved,hell!


 
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July 25 2012, 11:55 AM 

a bastard nation qith mixed nationalities together with greek turkified people reveal their hatred to nations that try to keep their identity....
this is the turkish fear..
a fear that all the legal owners will ask some day their land
they know that they are the product of turkification and there is no future for them
kemal try to make you a nation but all now a cracking apart
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""Maniots, known for their martial qualities, were the first to join the Greek liberation movement. The society called the Filiki Eteria ("Company of Friends") sent their representatives Perrevos and Chrisospathis to organize the Maniots. On March 17, 1821, 12,000 Maniots gathered in the church of Taxiarchs (Archangels) of Areopoli and declared war against the Ottoman Empire. The flag of the revolution was white with a blue cross in the center. On top of the flag there was a sign, "Victory or death". The Maniots were responsible for writing "Victory" and not "Freedom" on their banner since Mani was always free. On the bottom of the flag lied an ancient inscription, "With the shield or on the shield."
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