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you should now that people living IN GREECE have the utmost respect for Turks. many don't like you but they have respect because we live next to each other. I think you should know THAT!
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thnx hiddenwolf. please be more fair to greece, and don't listen to some wannabes. Turks are more fair to us than our "partners" of the "civilised, christian europe" that only believes in Jehovas and money.I've known many muslims, some Turks, even some Chechens and all of them are men of HONOUR and REAL MEN and not european pussies....
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You should just look at all the threads griks make here. They've lost it, they only come here to troll and bitch.
No matter the era, whichever the society, people always gaze at the stars when young. Then they stretch out their hands and try to catch them. And then one day, they realize their arms are not long enough to catch the stars, and thats when they grow up.
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Alright. Come give us a hug. Greece should ditch the imperialist, bankrupt old cocksuckers of Europe and create a union around common history, culture (we have the same food and music) and genetics (1/3rd of us are phucking cousins) with Turkey. Full political, social, educational, economic and military cooperation shall be declared. Turkish and Greek air forces and navies combined would easily rule the mediterranean and the Middle East.
Or not. You fags aren't capable, trustworthy, intelligent and honest enough to be in any union. If you cheated the EU and phucked up the European economy, only god can imagine how badly you'd suck to have in our union.
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"Or not. You fags aren't capable, trustworthy, intelligent and honest enough to be in any union. If you cheated the EU and phucked up the European economy, only god can imagine how badly you'd suck to have in our union."
Do you really think that this is the reason that we could never be friends?Look at a map and imagine a hypothetical coalition (let's say that the countries have left NATO) among Greece, Turkey and Cyprus. A coalition that would control the Black sea, the Eastern Mediterranean and the traffic through the Suez canal (via Crete)and the traffic through the Otrando straights (via Corfu).Sush a coalition could control literally every drop of Arab oil heading to the West. Not to mention that even the USA would be unable to attack a coalition with:
-almost 500 modern fighters
-almost 40 frigates
-over state of the art 20 submarines
-Hundreds or even thousands of modern tanks and anti-aircraft systems
If you think and find out who would never want the formation of such a coalition then you will have found the answer to the one million dollar question (i.e. Why is there so much hatred between Greece and Turkey?)
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I'm not denying that such a "cooperation" looks good on paper. But tell me, can Greece really commit to it in a de facto fashion? Would you be willing to volunteer soldiers and equipment to protect Turkey's southeastern borders after the last 100-200 years of our history, two outright wars, a cold war and countless escalations?
I don't want to say that Turkish and Greek societies are permanently made into enemies, but there definitely is a trust issue.
Beyond that, Greece's track record in the EU is obvious. If you managed to bankrupt yourselves after billions of Euros in aid, credit and freebies and still threaten to bring down such an immense economic union as the Eurozone, why would Turkey enter into an economic agreement with Greece? What guarantees do we have that you won't again doctor your documents, make up fake statistics, etc. just to remain within an agreed upon treshold on paper?
Germany fully invaded France only 72 years ago, but only a few decades later they learned to trust each other and unite as (almost) a single country.
Can Greece and Turkey achieve the same? Or do we have too many common, strong enemies who'd rather see us remain loyal weapons customers after a century since our last war?
Bringing Turkey and Greece together requires tremendous compromises by both nations. Compromises that neither nation is willing to make right now.
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"Bringing Turkey and Greece together requires tremendous compromises by both nations. Compromises that neither nation is willing to make right now."
The only real compromises would be for Turkey to leave any "assimilation" thoughts behind and for Greece to adopt strict economic policies for some years. But it could never happen as...
"Or do we have too many common, strong enemies who'd rather see us remain loyal weapons customers after a century since our last war?"...
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If it could never happen, why are we eve talking about this? Quick! Everyone to their battle stations! We're locked into an eternal war with the Griks.
The only way I see a Turkish-Grik cooperation happening in the next 50 years is a Sino-Russian attack on the rest of the world, or worse, an alien invasion.
You shoot the zombie behind me, I'll shoot the one behind you after he bites you kind of thing.
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BTW, Turkey does not have any assimilation plans for the Griks. Come on, it's not the dark ages. We can barely keep the Kurds who are already in Turkey as "Turkish", how do you propose we'll assimilate 11 million Griks in Europe? Get real.
Turks on average have no bad blood with the Griks. We just want you to give us a few islands right next to the Turkish mainland. Once that's done, we can move on.
We'll give you our southeast in exchange.
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If people think we actually hate each other on this forum because were Greek-Turkish, they're pretty much dead wrong. Were just playing along with what WAFF has been doing for years, letting us flame.. I doubt people like Kalli hate us, deep down. I even had a friendly chat with him over chat once.
Man the only way you could see Greek girls is through a telescope. Whatever you Turks say I know that Greek girls IN GREECE (I don't know about the ones abroad) are not really "fond" of Turks...for sure...
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Man the only way you could see Greek girls is through a telescope. Whatever you Turks say I know that Greek girls IN GREECE (I don't know about the ones abroad) are not really "fond" of Turks...for sure...
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That what I have seen. Also in Greece Turkish delight is in high demand. Just look at the ratings of Turkish soaps in Greece. Turkish soaps is more popular in Greece than Arabia
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That is mainly because the media industry has no money to produce good quality Greek soaps as it did before. I should also say that Turkish soaps are of relatively good quality compared to latin ones. The producers seem to spend enough money, the stories are more or less you know classic (forbidden love etc) so all women watch tnem. To tell you the truth it is annoying as almost everytime of the day you open the tv there are 2-3 soaps playing!!!For God's sake!Yet I have to admit that Cansu Dere is one of the most beutiful women I 've ever seen...
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Another Turkoalbanian clown infiltrating Hellenic Opa-Lites. Nothing being done about it, too. Opa!
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Centurion. He pretends to support Golden Dawn yet also supports Turkey at every chance, to confuse Greeks.
It is ridiculous how many non-Greek trolls like him are in the Greek group just to give more credibility to the nonsense they write and to defame.
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I see...Yet maybe he is a Greek with his own way of thinking. Someone has to be completely pathetic to be non-Greek yet become a member of the Hoplites to harm them as a group. I will stick to the first alternative.
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You are naive and foolish, which is hardly surprising.
Leftist Greeks are also very pro-Turkish and Ottoman in their own way because of their stupid ideological views. But that is because the anti-nationalist component of their ideology, which plays of into the ultra-nationalism of Turkish national character and mentality. This Centurk guy is totally different. He claims on the one hand to advocate for, support and vote for Golden Dawn, the most nationalist Greek party and yet support Turkey in every post he can. It is totally nonsensical and an unbelievable narrative. It would make sense only if he impersonated a Greek leftist, since they are against Greece having the military resources, assertive foreign policy or patriotic national attitude necessary to rebuff Turkish imperialist ambitions. Since he is a Turk, he could not make the distinction that to maintain his ruse best, he would have had to pretended to be leftist in the Greek context. He cannot discern this because in Turkish society, if you are not ultra-nationalist, everyone says you are not a Turk. This is why he thinks it is safest to pretend to be a Golden Dawn supporting Greek and a cheerleader of Neo-Ottomanism.
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Respect to felix for a good try to ease tention... but this is just joking around, dont know bout the greek side, but turks dont have hard feelings for greeks anymore. Even one of my best freinds are greek, and we get along fine. But im getting a little worried for some of your guys who have the ethics for cheering over dead people.
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Jagoff stfu Turkish lying ultra-nationalist. Turks don't have hard feelings? What about all those Turkish neighbors of Greeks who in 1955 compiled the locations of their assets and residences necessary to execute the 1955 pogrom? What about this:
http://www.athensnews.gr/old_issue/13096/12026
What about the societal perception that all gavur women are whores and that when Greek women appear in Turkish literature they are whores?
Do you think every Greek is born stupid because of what Centurk or Romulbanian writes?
You lunatics guys brag for the German economic warfare waged via EU institutions, especially the ECB dominated by ex-Bundesbank people, but you fail to realize it will ignite nationalism all over Europe. You ultra-nationalist lying Turkish scum will not sit very pretty at the end of it all. Keep barking while you can.
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GREEKS, Christian talibans amongst the Europeans! (Login JackDanielsDry) The Conquerors (Turkey)
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August 2 2012, 5:46 AM
^^^^^Are you Geert Wilders by any chance mate?^^^^^
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^He donates money to him with his foot stamp and welfare check, a fervent stormfront member LOL
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