Nice that it is so good an had saved lifes. That the important thing!
And it is still functioning! Very nice.
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BabyBeach (Login BabyBeach) The Conquerors (Turkey)
Re: High Tech KIRPI Saves Lives
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August 13 2012, 11:44 AM
Is it worth to repaire those damaged Kirpis after those high explosions? Whats the procedure for that? Or maybe another new one is being ordered everytime?
^^ (Here it was a nice example that how important having a defence industry by yourselves. If its not worth to use it, you order a new one and keep the money inside the country)
BTW the question remains.. Do anyone know the current situations of damaged Kirpis?
I would expect that they look how hard and expensive the repair costs are. If they are similar to one which will be ordered completly new, than they wouldn't repair ir. They will use it and its undamaged parts as spareparts.
This is the most cost effective way.
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BMC would be a great solution for Greek military. Their manufacturing facility is in Izmir and they can produce more than a ten thousand trucks in a year.
But these puppets have to buy from Germany or France or use ELBO trucks from 50s
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Kirpi and MRAPs in general are used for internal security or in low tension conflicts. The Greek army simply doesn't need such stuff as we have no PKK style threats. We could use a small number of such vehicles in Afganistan or Kosovo. What we really need is new heavy trucks and APCs-IFVs.
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Typical ignorant Turk. The Janissaries were not your expendable corps but your elite corps. Go open a book man!Don't troll all the time!
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rudvan (Login balkanturku) The Conquerors (Turkey)
Re: High Tech KIRPI Saves Lives
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August 18 2012, 2:31 AM
you see what is the situation.
i never die for this idiots.
their sons will be in safe but i will die for their gvornment ?
i am not that stupid to became brain washed by their religion ( Islam dosnt imagine their theory for me , islam was not that what it is today )
as i say it alltime :
Ataturk was the biggest chance for anatolian donmes from greek , armenian ...
Ataturk should have born in middle asia, not in balkans. He wasted his life for people ! the people who were going to sweare behind him !
10. yil marsina takan biri var devletin basinda. Ataturk osmanlinin borcunu odemesine ragmen ekonomiyi pozitif degerlerde tuttu. senin gibi Kemal Dervis ekonomisiyle ulkeyi satip borca sokup , yabanci sermaye ile ormedi bu devleti.
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Except Turkey has 10.000 or so Kurpis then they still use trucks as well in SE regions
to carry food, ammunition, soldiers etc etc. So they don`t have to target Kirpi, just
wait for a simple truck to pass by.
Or more simply they don`t target military vehicles, they can attack civilian trucks as
they have done in many cases in order to hurt the economy.
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Kirpi and MRAPs in general are used for internal security or in low tension conflicts. The Greek army simply doesn't need such stuff as we have no PKK style threats. We could use a small number of such vehicles in Afganistan or Kosovo. What we really need is new heavy trucks and APCs-IFVs.
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Do you need heavy trucks like below given?
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HunnicTurk (Login HunnicTurk) The Conquerors (Turkey)
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August 18 2012, 9:22 AM
'Typical ignorant Turk. The Janissaries were not your expendable corps but your elite corps. Go open a book man!Don't troll all the time!'
The elite Ottoman unity was Delis (Med, crazy)cavalry, wasn't Janissaries. Janissaries was small guard of Sultans. Also at the end of the 15th century there were only Turks accepted by Ottoman Palace, not Serbs, Albenians or Bulgars.
Deli cavalry were Turkic Attack unity on the Ottoman Army. Generaly Turkmens and Balkan Turks joined to Deli cavalryYou should be too strong, well built and pass hard testes for join the Delis. They used famous Ottoman slap to enemies horses for overtrow them. They used to eagle wings same as Native Americans.
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Or more simply they don`t target military vehicles, they can attack civilian trucks as
they have done in many cases in order to hurt the economy
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@beryoza
Sure why wouldnt they kill innocent civilian KURDS that work in that region as a Truck driver ... most of those people are kurds . So yeah PKK can do that and loose the only support they have ... It may hurt the economy (very little) but it would hurt their PR ...VERY MUCH .
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I don't know about your trucks but you should know that your IFVs are mediocre as they are a radical improvement of M-113. Their armor is too weak and they are not in the same class as CV-90 or ASCOD.
@HunnicTurk
"The elite Ottoman unity was Delis (Med, crazy)cavalry, wasn't Janissaries. Janissaries was small guard of Sultans."
Accordind to wikipedia the Janissaries corps size ranged from 50.000 (1363) to 140.000 (when they were dismantled). There were also periods when their size was about 10.000-15.000. So, they were not "a small guard". Moreover, in every army anytime in earth history, its elite corps was the royal guard. The sultan himself led the Janissaries in battle. Cavalry is critical in battles yet in sieges (like the one of Constantinople) the infantry is the king of the field.
"Also at the end of the 15th century there were only Turks accepted by Ottoman Palace, not Serbs, Albenians or Bulgars"
wikipedia: The Janissaries first began enrolling outside the devirme system during the reign of Sultan Murad III (15741595) and abandoned devirme recruitment completely during the 17th century.
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"Sure why wouldnt they kill innocent civilian KURDS that work in that region as a Truck driver ... most of those people are kurds . So yeah PKK can do that and loose the only support they have ... It may hurt the economy (very little) but it would hurt their PR ...VERY MUCH ."
No need to kill anyone, just destroy the trucks, they`ve done if many times.
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No need to kill anyone, just destroy the trucks, they`ve done if many times.
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Oh really ? so while they are destroying the trucks ... Driver will cheer at them ...is that what you imagine ... also i believe you are not understanding the situation greatly ... those trucks also belong to Kurdish business man . Some of them are good honest business man(how honest most business man are any ways?) so they will also like PKK destroying their trucks ...its not like government owns every frekin truck in the country ...
Your way of thinking is too weak in my opinion . Even Pkk is past those days . They are going for the kurdish uprising card ... Which has been tried before by bringing civilians nose to nose with the armed forces .You cant achieve such things by actions like that .
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"Destroy the trucks? No problem.. we build plenty more happy.gif"
Duh its pointless but what the heck. What is the cost of the average
kirpi compared to a usual army truck? Also since kirpi seems quite
small to carry goods, how many kirpis would be needed to replace trucks?
"Your way of thinking is too weak in my opinion ."
That`s not a way of thinking, its a reality. Few weeks ago PKK set fire to 12
trucks, they`ve done it before.
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trabzonlee61 (Login TrabzonLee_61) The Conquerors (Turkey)
Re: High Tech KIRPI Saves Lives
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August 18 2012, 8:15 PM
He misunderstood you... He thought you mean "Kirpi" with "truck"....
But we have newly built trucks from BMC in high numbers
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