I think Turkey is not using all of the cards available to us regarding the Greek issue. There is a strategic problem and that problem is that we have focused way too much on the aegean and Cyprus. These two regions are very important but we must also focus on Western Thrace.
Here is my proposal. I call this The Final Solution.

1. Approach Albania, Kosovo and Macedonia. Establish much closer ties with these nations and then establish military and naval bases there. This would give us a new front to the north of Greece and also we would get access to the Adriatic Sea. This Greece can be attacked not only from the east and south but also from the north and west!

2. When we have established our bases in these countries grix will panick from azz fear and start whining to her Daddies but they can't do anything about it besides whining and moaning like whores.

3. Now we start provoking the grix in the aegean so they attack us. Or maybe they even start attacking the Turks in Western Thrace. When they do that we declare war and capture Athens withing 2 weeks while destroying the Grik Armed Forces.

4. When they are beaten and we occupy Athens we propose to them that we will leave Athens on the condition that they give up Western Thrace and give up occupied land that belongs to Albania, Macedonia and Bulgaria. Grease returns to the 1821 borders.

5. When the war ends, Turkey will establish it's dominance in the Balkans once again and Grease will return back to it's 1821 borders.

Of course I have this plan much more detailed but this is just a summary of the main ponts. I have a detailed plan, tactical, strategical and operational of how to do this. I think TSK will be interested.

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Dude, we have to wait until they get thrown out of the EU. It will happen sooner or later.

And if we wait until the end of this decade, Greece won't have an army. There won't be a fight with Greek government but with extremist groups in Greece. I already talked about it.

Use your head. Time is biggest enemy of Greek army.

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"Of course I have this plan much more detailed but this is just a summary of the main ponts. I have a detailed plan, tactical, strategical and operational of how to do this. I think TSK will be interested. "


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LOL, thats the funniest thing I've read for a while.. Turkey and its entire military machine can't beat the Kurds.. BUT NT has a plan to defeat nd take back "thrace"

what a comedian...lol

dedicated to you foolish turds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txlXcJDtDwM

This map illustrates the borders of Greece after we have liberated Western Thrace and other parts of Greekistan in the near future.

Once we've liberated Western Thrace, other parts of Balkans will also be liberated or be in our control otherwise.

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But first we start with Western Thrace.
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FREEDOM!!!
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...these foolish Turko's should concentrate instead on trying to hold Turkey together from the Kurdish, Alawite, Circassian, Arab, Laz, Pontian.. onslaught..

More mental mastibation from the Turks...lol

Dude, we have to wait until they get thrown out of the EU. It will happen sooner or later.

And if we wait until the end of this decade, Greece won't have an army. There won't be a fight with Greek government but with extremist groups in Greece. I already talked about it.

Use your head. Time is biggest enemy of Greek army.

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You have a point there bro but I have also thought about it. Liberation of Western Thrace should not start immediately, the armed conflict that is. But preparation, planning and mobilization should start right away. In 5-10 years time we will have most of our new toys ready to be tested against the albano-ethiopians and by that time we will be even richer and Grease even poorer.

Of course it will be much easier to implement our plan if Grease is thrown our of the EU but if this not happens the plan should be implemented anyway because the EU is not a defence union. USA and EU did nothing when we took Cyprus and they will do nothing when we cyprus Western Thrace. Much can change in 5-10 years time but we can establish military bases in Albania, Kosovo and Macedonia right away and prepare for the liberation of Western Thrace.

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Greece had actually no borders in 1821.

Now why in heavens name would the Greek Muslims in Western Thrace wanna be liberated by Turkey, Nationalist.. which will one day in the near future, be taken over by the Kurds.. it's just NOT logical mate to assume that Greek muslims would wanna live under the Kurdish yoke..

Establishing military and naval bases in Albania, Kosovo and Macedonia is a REALISTIC goal for Turkey in 2012. This is also one step that will dramatically alter the power balance and make grix panick from azz fear. Just imagine that. hehehe

Just by establishing military and naval bases there would mean we have renewed or former dominance in the Balkans and Greece will be surrounded by us from east to north to west to south! Think about it, Albania, Kosovo and Macedonia are our natural and historic allies. Turkish-friendly nations. Establishing military and naval bases there coupled with economic investments will de facto turn them into Turkish satellite states. We must use all our cards available to us.

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Speaking of a FULL deck..

...that plan of yours i bet is a super plan that you've formulated there Nationalist.. but lets be realistic.. Turkey, isn't really turkish anymore, now is it? So why would you wanna add ANOTHER Nationality to an already explosive situation.. it's not like you don't have enough already mate..

You should change your plan instead to partion Turkey alone ethnic and religious lines in order to safe guard a Turkish homeland, don't YOU think that'll be MORE realistic? .. since we're friends,I could help you with the plan if you like..

Now why in heavens name would the Greek Muslims in Western Thrace wanna be liberated by Turkey, Nationalist.. which will one day in the near future, be taken over by the Kurds.. it's just NOT logical mate to assume that Greek muslims would wanna live under the Kurdish yoke..
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Kekos are getting slaughtered by the hundreds griko, don't worry about that.

I am sensing the azz fear of griks already..just mentioning Turkish bases to their north makes them panick. Imagine when we actually implement these plans. LOL

They are not "greek muslims". They are Ethnic Turks. Just the fact that you do not acknowledge the existence of Ethnic Turks in greek occupied territory is Casus Belli. This goes against basic human rights of the civilized world.

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Kekos are getting slaughtered by the hundreds griko, don't worry about that.

I am sensing the azz fear of griks already..just mentioning Turkish bases to their north makes them panick. Imagine when we actually implement these plans. LOL

They are not "greek muslims". They are Ethnic Turks. Just the fact that you do not acknowledge the existence of Ethnic Turks in greek occupied territory is Casus Belli. This goes against basic human rights of the civilized world


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Unfortunatly for you Turks.. you need to be slaughtering them in the millions to make a dent in the demograhics in "Turkey"

...Yes, every Greek including our military planners are in meltdown from the prospect of having to face Nationalist secret Battle Plan..

"Of course I have this plan much more detailed but this is just a summary of the main points. I have a detailed plan, tactical, strategical and operational of how to do this. I think TSK will be interested."


First we see Turks who dream of war and conquest of Greek Thrace when they sleep at night. And now this.

Of course the Turkish General Staff will be interested in his plan. How could they ever ignore the Thought of such a renowned military theorist?

We have the Sun Tzu of WAFF among us. A Von Clausewitz a la Turka.

Field Marshall NationalistTuranist should prepare for his next appointment at the Turkish General Staff, as Director of Operational Planning.

"For those who have read "Soldier Scheijk" by Yaroslav Hasek, I think we have another Cadet Biegler here.................

NationalistTuranist I praise you for drawing up plans against the enemy of your country. However, you look like 7-year-old-kids, who waste their time playing with tin soldiers, and become self-appointed generals in command of great Armies.




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"The Turkish Cypriots looted, robbed and ravaged Greek Cypriot properties. They must start producing instead of being mere consumers. The Turkish Cypriots wanted to live without working!"

Major-General Bedrettin Demirel (1917-1988)
Commander of the Turkish Invasion Forces in 1974

Kekos are being slaughtered by hundreds. Meanwhile in Aegean coast

We have the Sun Tzu of WAFF among us. A Von Clausewitz a la Turka.
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If these two homos were such good military thinkers and strategists China would not have fallen to the Turko-Mongols during the reign of the great Kubilay Khan who decimated the population of China with 1/3 lol. China would not have been ruled by Turko-Mongol dynasties for hundreds of years.
And regarding Clausewitz, Germany would not have lost two World Wars.

So do not try make yourself look educated and smart by mentioning two overrated but well known military theorists. No one and nothing compared to the Turanic race when it comes to military matters. The fact is that modern military and organization is based on the Turanic decimal system of 10s, 100s and 1000s for instance, so is the concept of mobility, efficiency in logistics, "blitzkrieg" and others "modern" concepts. The Germans in particular were highly influenced by the medieval Turanic warfare and tried to copy it with modern technology during WW2. Read John Keegan, History of Warfare. Modern warfare is based on medieval Turanic war innovation which helped us conquer half the world back then!

Why do I mention all this? Because you try to make yourself a smartazz by mentioning Sun Tzu and Clausewitz while ignoring the actual topic - The Liberation of Western Thrace. How will Sun Tzu and Clausewitz help you when you are bankrupt and when we establish our military and naval bases in Albania, Kosovo and Macedonia? Discuss THAT! Who will win, Attila, Kubilay Khan, Timur or Sun Tzu??

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if you didn't like the song, read this

A Midsummer Night's Dream, like the one hiddenpuppy saw

Is there any Turd left in WAFF with an IQ of over 60???

You get azz-raped by the PKK in your OWN (manner of speaking)country EVERYDAY and you dream about Thrace???\
You're not even a nation, Atagayturd tried to make you but failed, you're still a country composed of many nations and that's going to show fast...

Turdanist and gaywolf simply break the barriers everyday of what it means to be retarded...

Please go on,i want to hear your magnificent plans about Turkey's future...
When are you building your "Death Star" to conquer Mars???

You should try to liberate some hairs onto your ballsacks and then come here and post, disgraceful Turkish ulra-nationalist child.

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Why is vaseline in my sig? Because Turks don't want to read what I post. Hopefully the lube makes it easier for those criminal scum who are such great cry-babies to swallow.

Oh, yes, the Turanic race............

Well, FieldMarshall NationalTuranist, you may continue playing with your tin soldiers, and draw up operational plans for the Turkish Army.
Pray to Allah and request that if there is ever a REAL war, you will not be part of it.





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"The Turkish Cypriots looted, robbed and ravaged Greek Cypriot properties. They must start producing instead of being mere consumers. The Turkish Cypriots wanted to live without working!"

Major-General Bedrettin Demirel (1917-1988)
Commander of the Turkish Invasion Forces in 1974

Come and get it then subhuman!

Turks the North Koreans of the middle east

you're still a country composed of many nations and that's going to show fast...
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As a matter of fact Grease is a country (artifical and failed one) that is composed of many nations. There is no such thing as pure grix today. What binds you together is the orthodog religion. You are all essentially baptized left-overs of the Ottoman Empire, mostly albanians, slavs, turks (karaman Turks) but also gypsies and ethiopians. In Ottoman times you were "rum" and are still rum. The British tried to make you a nation but we know better that there is no such thing as a "hellenic nation".

According to my plan, the artificial nation of Greece will be split between Turkey, Albania, Macedonia and Bulgaria. Western Thrace will go to Turkey. About half of the rest of Greece will go to our loyal allies in the Balkans. And thereafter everyone will live happily in peace. Greeks will thank us later.
According to my plan not only West Thrace will be liberated but also Greeks. They will be liberated from the false identity of "hellenism" imposed on them by the British in the 19th century. When you have returned to your 1821 borders you will not longer have to sustain a large Army and can thus free resources which can be invested on schools, hospitals, industry etc. You will flourish economically.

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"According to my plan..."


LOL....FAIL!

Hellas, Hellas, n tav n epi tas

"Of course I have this plan much more detailed but this is just a summary of the main points. I have a detailed plan, tactical, strategical and operational of how to do this. I think TSK will be interested."

Someone forgot to take his medication...

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"Of course I have this plan much more detailed but this is just a summary of the main points. I have a detailed plan, tactical, strategical and operational of how to do this. I think TSK will be interested."


LOL!!!!!

Greeks beware...Playstation General IN DA HOUSE....HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!







Hellas, Hellas, n tav n epi tas

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Hellenic Hoplites (Greece)
Re: Liberation of Western Thrace - Greece back to 1821 borders.No score for this post August 10 2012, 1:55 PM

Oh, yes, the Turanic race............

Well, FieldMarshall NationalTuranist, you may continue playing with your tin soldiers, and draw up operational plans for the Turkish Army.
Pray to Allah and request that if there is ever a REAL war, you will not be part of it.

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+1, amen to that brother....

I like NT:s constructive way of trolling anyway. Its much more creative than cretes retarded asss and romo... you go bro !

hiddenwolf

"Dude, we have to wait until they get thrown out of the EU. It will happen sooner or later.

And if we wait until the end of this decade, Greece won't have an army. There won't be a fight with Greek government but with extremist groups in Greece. I already talked about it. "



turks from 1996 threat greece of an invasion
later the move the schedule for 2010 ,
then for 2020
now for 2025


they wait for 1000 altay tanks
100 f-35
100 t-129
for nuclear energy

now the wait till greece got no army

after they gonna wait for the earthquake
a tsounami
or a epidemic

maybe they wait for the alliens to arrive..........



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""Maniots, known for their martial qualities, were the first to join the Greek liberation movement. The society called the Filiki Eteria ("Company of Friends") sent their representatives Perrevos and Chrisospathis to organize the Maniots. On March 17, 1821, 12,000 Maniots gathered in the church of Taxiarchs (Archangels) of Areopoli and declared war against the Ottoman Empire. The flag of the revolution was white with a blue cross in the center. On top of the flag there was a sign, "Victory or death". The Maniots were responsible for writing "Victory" and not "Freedom" on their banner since Mani was always free. On the bottom of the flag lied an ancient inscription, "With the shield or on the shield."
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LOL @ Kalli's losing his mind over this thread.

 

 

"turks from 1996 threat greece of an invasion
later the move the schedule for 2010 ,
then for 2020
now for 2025


they wait for 1000 altay tanks
100 f-35
100 t-129
for nuclear energy

now the wait till greece got no army

after they gonna wait for the earthquake
a tsounami
or a epidemic

maybe they wait for the alliens to arrive.........."

So true...

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"Of course I have this plan much more detailed but this is just a summary of the main points. I have a detailed plan, tactical, strategical and operational of how to do this. I think TSK will be interested."


Oh sh1t! Guys...quickly we need to warn the Hellenic intelligence of this mastermind's plans...
Someone call James Bond immediately...we can't let these plans in the hands of the TSK...

LOL

why don't you try "liberating" Hakkari first (From Kurdish military control) and then start working on Thrace-Aegean etc?

LOL

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ROMO

Its only in PKK media and semi terrorist state greek media that belives pkk controls anything...

LOL @ Kalli's losing his mind over this thread

...as opposed to Nationalist.. who's already lost his...lol

In 1919-1922 era, our advantage was the Turkish population (efeler) behind enemy lines. They cut their logistics, attacked their bases and informed the recent positions of attack/defence lines of the enemy.

The same advantage is over there with huge Turkish population of western thrace. What we should do is (with a national government) arming, organizing and training our brothers to open the way of Selanik without big casualties.

I dont want to make upset our greek friends here but those are the facts that Selanik is a Turkish city which was stolen from us years ago and inside our Misaki-Milli borders.

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"The same advantage is over there with huge Turkish population of western thrace."

If you were older you would remember that in times of Greek-Turkish crisis your brothers in western Thrace are really careful and try not to provoke because they know their fate in case of a Greek-Turkish military confrontation.The army has plans for them in such cases...I would also like to mention that a little time ago the army created a Special Operations military unit just out of
your brothers' doors...

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"If you were older you would remember that in times of Greek-Turkish crisis your brothers in western Thrace are really careful and try not to provoke because they know their fate in case of a Greek-Turkish military confrontation.The army has plans for them in such cases...I would also like to mention that a little time ago the army created a Special Operations military unit just out of
your brothers' doors..."

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We all know what happens to small minorities in war...

As for:
"but those are the facts that Selanik is a Turkish city which was stolen from us years ago and inside our Misaki-Milli borders."

lol Please stop masturbating.

Ok, so you're going to station forces in FYROM, Albania, and Kosovo, far from your territory and behind enemy lines... And you're going to keep these forces supplied in wartime how? lol Please, by all means, feel free to send some of your troops off to tiny little countries to get cut off and separated from your main forces. lol

And Sun-Tzu wasn't alive when the Mongols conquered China, nor was Clauswitz in charge when the Germans lost 2 world wars... lol


What a wonderful thread. Turks are still so upset about getting their a$$es kicked by Greece in the 1st Balkan War. lol

kurds chase turks to the west,but we gonna stop them...where they have to go?

muahahahaaaa



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""Maniots, known for their martial qualities, were the first to join the Greek liberation movement. The society called the Filiki Eteria ("Company of Friends") sent their representatives Perrevos and Chrisospathis to organize the Maniots. On March 17, 1821, 12,000 Maniots gathered in the church of Taxiarchs (Archangels) of Areopoli and declared war against the Ottoman Empire. The flag of the revolution was white with a blue cross in the center. On top of the flag there was a sign, "Victory or death". The Maniots were responsible for writing "Victory" and not "Freedom" on their banner since Mani was always free. On the bottom of the flag lied an ancient inscription, "With the shield or on the shield."
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"kurds chase turks to the west,but we gonna stop them...where they have to go?
muahahahaaaa"

Still, there is a way out... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIAT_Mongolian_Airlines

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