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A Kurdish state? - The PKK has "locked" the &#350;emdinli

August 20 2012 at 12:20 AM
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For the first time it becomes clear that we are on the verge of a Kurdish state, and indeed in this direction seems to attempt the PKK Kurdish rebels on the border between Turkey and Iraq and Syria. Almost all Turkish military outposts under siege by the PKK militants in emdinli and have countered all attempts of the Turkish army to reoccupy the area.

The PKK has launched its new strategy on July 23 successfully forcing the Turkish army to fold. The objective of the battle is to guarantee the absolute "stillness" around military checkpoints and restrict the movements of Turkish soldiers.

Have taken control of the area by sending large forces that have ruled in prison - Osan not occupied - the tyrkiko Army and gendarmerie forces and attack coming as reinforcements. Result: Dozens dead count the Turkish Army.

In short outposts in the region have now denied the necessary logistics which made competent to operate. That supplies and ammunition.

The Kurdish fighters abandoned the hitherto longtime strategy "knock and leave" instead acquire control of a large outdoor area preventing and limiting the movements of the Turkish army.

The Turkish army has become hostage inside the outposts and used as "bait" to attract and destroy megalytetous sichmatismous.

Bear in mind that one of the deputies who met with PKK angering the government Erdogan, Gülten Kanak said "we never had security forces in the area looked" rather this statement more upset Ankara despite the presence of MPs.

Just how serious is the situation now, and that claims to the Kurds aspire to "fly" out the army, seen from the nervousness that pervades the Erdogan government in recent days, but the security forces.

http://www.defencenet.gr/defence/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=51151&Itemid=139



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Re: A Kurdish state? - The PKK has "locked" the &#350;emdinli

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August 20 2012, 12:21 AM 

pkk controls town(even for a while)
pro-kurdish member of the turkish parliament have meeting with pkk rebels
stones to the a minister of the government
kurdish spring is on!!!

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Re: A Kurdish state? - The PKK has "locked" the &#350;emdinli

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August 20 2012, 12:24 AM 

LOL. PKK never even got close to Semdinli to begin with, I can't believe this few week old story is still going around, you guys are so desperate [linked image]

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August 20 2012, 12:49 AM 

this guy still posting defencenet BS

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Re: A Kurdish state? - The PKK has "locked" the &#350;emdinli

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August 20 2012, 8:35 AM 

they are very childish. [linked image]
stupid plan
1- hide in a hole.
2- Find a place to connect phones off.
3- will occupy the road in a secluded location 15 minutes.
4- be gained terrorist propaganda
5- after, going back to the hole
6- if Turkish army appears on the horizon we escape into the woods
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Re: A Kurdish state? - The PKK has "locked" the &#350;emdinli

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August 20 2012, 8:39 AM 

How dumb Greeks are to believe in crap pouring from Defence net Greece ....

First of all ...if PKK really captured anything ...they would have posted thousand of video's on YouTube ... Just like other Arab spring **** going on ...

Secondly ... those DTP members have been meeting with PKK cunts long time ago ... we already know it . If they are actually in Semdinli and holding it ...then why not meet there?

Because there is nothing in Semdinli ...those PKK keko's were on a suicide mission...and thats what happened ..got their asses kicked .

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Re: A Kurdish state? - The PKK has "locked" the &#350;emdinli

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August 20 2012, 9:13 AM 

i dont support defencenet.. but how many times defencenet shut your mouths at the end? just count them happy.gif



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Re: A Kurdish state? - The PKK has "locked" the &#350;emdinli

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August 20 2012, 9:16 AM 

looks like the Kurds have "Cyprused" Turkey... LOL

what an ownage!



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August 20 2012, 1:21 PM 

idiot Greeks still you do not get it? What do you mean Turks? Turk volunteer to go to death so honorable. Turks are not a coward. Turks are as grey wolves. unyielding and unbreakable.
we haven't insidious attacks. Ottoman Emperor Sultan Suleiman said'' hey Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor, You're not a man. Because do not you come in here. always running away from the battlefield. . You're not the emperor.you be ashamed when you going to your wife. you never say again man himself. ''



    
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August 20 2012, 1:23 PM 

^^ WHAT THE FVCK IS THIS MAN SAYING?!



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August 20 2012, 1:48 PM 

some time ago that man is ........... on your ancestors.

 
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August 20 2012, 2:05 PM 

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August 20 2012, 2:11 PM 

Are there any other, actual mainstream sources, reporting on this? If not, it's most likely just pointless propaganda.

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August 20 2012, 2:34 PM 

Romo, has the fruit basket fallen down from heaven yet ?

 
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Re: A Kurdish state? - The PKK has "locked" the &#350;emdinli

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August 20 2012, 5:47 PM 

@E7

turks themselves admit it

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/semdinli-encounter-adds-to-row-on-ayguns-words.aspx?pageID=238&nID=28161&NewsCatID=338

parliament meeting ""terrorists"" at the outskirts of Semdinli , u dont call that turkish control of the area, do you?

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August 20 2012, 5:54 PM 

Turkish interior minister was also driven away like an animal after Kurds started pelting him with rocks in the south east. Turks have effectively lost any ability to control the areas of Hakkari and Semindli.

Next up is Van and Diyarbakir.





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Re: A Kurdish state? - The PKK has "locked" the &#350;emdinli

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August 20 2012, 6:03 PM 

Duke Nukem where does that link support what defencepoint says? You're a liar, and a pretty bad one at that. There was a firefight OUTSIDE OF SEMDINLI for 12 days, a few hundred PKK members tried to get in but could not due to the military already knowing what they were up to so they deployed soldiers there. It ended a while ago, there is no PKK stronghold in Turkey.

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August 20 2012, 6:12 PM 

@ the name

did u read that?

"The encounter of BDP MPs with PKK militants outside emdinli fuelled row as the dispute on the statements of kidnapped CHP MP still continuing. No wonder we say the CHP and the BDP are similar PM says"

let me make it simple to u: "terrorists" meet MPs outside Semdinli. Right? Now, tell me why did nt the turkish state intervene to stop the meeting? there were hundreds of people with the MPs, but no police no army! where were the police and the army? LOCKED ! Kurds control most of the area. Period.

Why didnt the TSK/Jendarma/police try to stop an ILLEGAL and TERRORIST (as you call it) meeting?


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August 20 2012, 6:23 PM 

How are the Police and Military locked? Just because BDP stumbled across 4 members of the PKK (OUTSIDE OF SEMDINLI) does not make Semdinli in anyway a stronghold, its close to the border, but thats it. There are 3 countries which atm PKK can use to sneak in and out of Turkey. Iran, Iraq and Syria. They can sneak in, do what they need to, plant an IED, make an ambush and make a run for the border to any one of those 3 countries before helicopters arrive. Its game over when air support arrives so thats their tactic. They do not stick around and try to hold some place, they tried to hold an area outside of Semdinli but were pretty much slaughtered so I doubt they'll make the same mistake twice.

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August 20 2012, 6:59 PM 

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


We are actually hoping for them to make the same mistake ...100 terrorist at a time is a good number ...

lets hope they act stupid ...and die all together .

Greeks truly do not get the situation ...

This is exactly what PKK propaganda is aiming at .Trying to manipulate truth to dumb people so they would end up rising against the government ...Kurds in the regions is not that stupid ...they dont give a fuk about what PKK does on a deserted village road in few meter's from the border ...These DTP pm's drive there and meet these keko's and then both sides run as fast as they can before Airforce bombs them all to hell...

To be honest i hope they would bomb those PM's with the keko's

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