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My resignation of Hellenic Hoplites General

August 25 2012 at 10:06 AM
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EleftheriaHThanatos  (Login EletheriaHThanatos)
Hellenic Hoplites (Greece)

Hi Guys,

I have handed in my resignation in to Mike as Group General.

My reasons are that I don't have the time to commit as much as I would like to on the forum. With 3 kids and my own business and voluntary work I do its not easy.

I hope I have done a half decent job and I tried to implement some new ideas such as post of the week, and tried to recruit Greeks etc.

Good Luck in the next elections.

The next Greek leader will have my support no matter who you are! I have enjoyed it and if anyone wants to contact me you still can on eleftheriahthanatos@hotmail.co.uk

Thanks to Mike and the MODS for everything and ill be continuing to be on here as much as I can!!

ELEFTHERIAHTHANATOS




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Re: My resignation of Hellenic Hoplites General

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August 25 2012, 11:32 AM 

I believe Greeks should elect their group leaders the way Greece does in real life . Put a Troika German loving sell out . Or just put a German ...

A new German for Greek group leader ...send your resume .Preferably Blue eyes , blonde and tall and non jew ...since Nazi Greeks love it that way nowadays .

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August 25 2012, 11:36 AM 

I remember they wanted Romulus as the new group leader Lol


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Re: My resignation of Hellenic Hoplites General

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August 25 2012, 1:07 PM 

albo Vromulus a Hoplites leader? well, Vromulus dont even try to think about it.

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August 25 2012, 2:08 PM 

We salute our former General!
EleftheriaHThanatos, you have led us well.
Stay among our ranks as a simple Hoplite, and keep the phalanx strong.


PS: Ignore the Turkish clowns of this thread.

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August 25 2012, 2:12 PM 

Great round bro. Thank you very much for your service.

If my fellow Hellenes are alright with it, I'd like to step up for the position to carry on the sacred banner of Greece.

 



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August 25 2012, 2:20 PM 

I recommend any Hoplites that want to be General provide a manifesto as I did and we can then judge for ourselves who would be a great leader!

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August 25 2012, 2:26 PM 

I'm sorry to point this out but exactly what good did your "manifesto" do for the Hellenes here? You weren't online for half the time the turdo group leader has been online.

I'll stick it to them without mercy and I'll enjoy every minute of it. How about that for a manifesto?

 

 



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August 25 2012, 2:33 PM 

No need for that mate,

Even though I wasn't posting I have been on nearly everyday, but yes that's why I'm resigning.

I wasn't aiming the manifesto bit at you but anybody that wants to go for it!

It just gives us an idea of your political position etc.



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August 25 2012, 2:38 PM 

EleftheriaHThanatos:

Whom would you recommend as the new Group General?

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EleftheriaHThanatos
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August 25 2012, 5:34 PM 

I would push for Fantaros to do it as he would be fantastic , not sure he would want to do it though.

Kalli and Romulus too.

Gavur you interested?? You could give it a go!!!





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August 25 2012, 9:01 PM 

Thank you for your service.


Anyone interested in becoming the leader has my support, except Romulus and varangian (no offence dudes but I'd rather have a serious person as my group leader).

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Vara
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August 25 2012, 11:33 PM 

Ohhh.. none taken Traos (it's nice to see you walking again.. even with a limp) but still, it must be said, that the next leader must be active, strong, able to engage with management on the behalf of the Hoplites, and generally have a good heart and not hold grudges against other Hoplites..


 
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August 25 2012, 11:40 PM 

Who facking cares? This whole group leader issue is nonsense.

The only thing to really pick up is that every Turk is a fanatic ultra-nationalist that will consider it their patriotic duty to even help their dirty state genocide every internal minority and invade every neighboring state. Meanwhile the Greeks tend to be individualistic and only care about themselves and if they are comfortable in life(which is not to say the Turks are altruistic, they are actually far less than Greeks).

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August 25 2012, 11:57 PM 

I suggest GavurYunan

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Vara
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August 26 2012, 12:00 AM 

Tryfield..

...and Gavur would both make fine Group leaders..




 
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August 26 2012, 12:02 AM 

I suggest Nikiphoros just to annoy him.

I think there are many good poster capable for this position like GavurYunan,
TheEvian and one other dude with amazing knowledge, Perseas.

 
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August 26 2012, 12:23 AM 

seriously who gives a ****?




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August 26 2012, 1:05 AM 

sorry to hear you are leaving Eleftheria, you were a really good group leader

in terms of where I stand, as always I would be happy to take up said role however I would also nominate the following people:

- Varangian
- Gavuryunan
- Thermopylai
- Kallimachos
- CreteRevenge

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Turka
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August 26 2012, 1:22 AM 

"- CreteRevenge"

He has my support too. Absolutely great knowledge and represents the Greeks well.

 
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August 26 2012, 3:27 AM 

Fantaros would be my top suggestion but he hasn't been around in quite some time.

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August 26 2012, 3:42 AM 

``He has my support too. Absolutely great knowledge and represents the Greeks well.```


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August 26 2012, 4:04 AM 

What are the duties of the General?
If they do not demand too much time I would like to put my name in for consideration.

 
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August 26 2012, 4:17 AM 

Thermopylai

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no thank you, do not have the time, work family commitments rule me out.....not that I wouldn't care to do it, but to do honor to the group and their trust you have to make sure you will do the position credit....I's only be half committed due to my personal affairs....

all others on the list I concur with....with one qualm....Kalli stop his anti Greek tirades....we need unity not fractional politics in our midst....

 
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August 26 2012, 11:05 AM 

There are many Greek posters that would be good for that position, but as "Fist among equals" i would recomend JJ6.
The reasons are well known to anyone, he is here for a long time and he knows what he has to do in order to keep balance. I do not know if he has time for it but i think this positions is not that much time consuming or has huge responsibilities...

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August 26 2012, 11:31 AM 

I would vote for gavuryunan, he would be an excellent choice!

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August 26 2012, 1:10 PM 

"He has my support too. Absolutely great knowledge and represents the Greeks well."

@ Turka

Everybody knows between us is a silent war here on WAFF, don't say about the knowledge from others if your self posting almost nothing in the forum, idiot. The @ssholle try to be my English teacher here, because of his low contribution and to make others with lower grammatic knowledges to look ridiculous. In almost every post from me I include a link with the confirmations to the subject we talk about. The problem is if people like "Turka" get owned, they looking for secondary other things because of her sick brain. A few times I was wrong and he celebrate like a small kid, get a live man.

P.S. Gavuryunan is the guy


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August 26 2012, 2:43 PM 

I want to thank everybody who has nominated me. But I am new and inexperienced in the forum, and I do not have enough free time too. Fantaros would be the perfect choice if he comes back.

There are a number of members I could nominate: Romulus, Perseas, WetrGr, and some others.

Of all the people I would recommend, only Romulus has announced his bid so far. Sometimes he is prone to trolling, sometimes he says absurd things (attack against Mersin, SYRIZA government etc). But remember one thing: We are here to have FUN. We need someone who can outsmart the adversaries, and make fun of them. Romulus is smart and can do that.
I also urge Perseas to run.I will wait for all the canidates to announce their bid before I decide.

Anyway, enough said. Ask the Mods to open a thread in which all potential candidates will announce their bid and carry out their election campaign.
And after a few days, another thread for the actual elections


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August 26 2012, 6:45 PM 

syrizeos for president....eleoooos
better here with the germans...the wurstfresser...

 
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Vara
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August 26 2012, 9:23 PM 

Well said Gavur.. I think sometimes we get TOO serious about WAFF and lose sight of the fact that were here for a good time.. Romulus, would make an excellent group leader as would Tryfield and your self..

Fantaros, is a hothead like many others including me.. and should NOT under any circumstances be group leader..

But let's put this in context, Romulus, does more work and engages more Greeks and Turks than any other poster.. he deserves it.. He's respectful and reserved too!

...I don't think we need look any further than these three for nominations..


 
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August 27 2012, 7:47 AM 

i just want to say one thing the new group leader should be elected based on patriotic criteria, in fact the new leader should be an impeccable patriot that nobody will really have to say anything about his patriotism

we shouldnt select a new group general based on popularity, many members can be popular but their patriotism can be put into question based on ambiguous or pro Turkish statements during the past

to be short, the first question that we should be asking before we elect a new leader is, is he patriot enough to be our glorious group leader?

what are his positions concerning the Greco Turkish issues?

what are his political convictions and beliefs

Im sorry but i would never accept as my group leader a leftist or a pseudosocialist no matter how popular he might be, our political beliefs is a very important thing which affects our patriotism either we like it or not

For instance i cannot accept as a patriot a supporter of Tsipras and his party, a party which encourages illegal immigration and the demographic alteration of our country.

So lets be responsible and think very well before we elect our new leader.

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Romulus
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August 27 2012, 7:50 AM 

can I just say for the record I do not support Tsipras...

I am a Royalist and a support of the Mitsotakis-Bakoyanni clan

on the other hand I am a pragmatist and believe in Byzantine style diplomacy - leveraging USA, EU, Russia, China and Israel

particularly our relation with Russia and Israel I think need to be beefed up



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August 27 2012, 7:57 AM 

the group leader normaly was doing nothing
no reason to got one if he got just the title
what leaders duties should be?
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August 27 2012, 8:20 AM 

Panos,

I tried certain things especially when first elected. I pushed for more unity between us Greeks, especially when Panzer was here and still with Nikephoros. That was the most important thing I did IMO!

I also made myself available with an email address and did a roll call to get an idea of numbers.

Its true there is only so much Group General can do!

But I totally agree that I haven't been on long enough so that's why I'm passing the baton!



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August 27 2012, 8:56 AM 

Romulus:

A royalist now? Bassilokommounistis, like the late Yannis Voultepsis?

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August 27 2012, 3:31 PM 

GavurYunan this is an english speaking forum, provide a translation for what you wrote
or you`ll be warned.

 
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August 27 2012, 5:09 PM 

GavurYunan you`re officially warned for using foreign languages without a translation.

 
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August 27 2012, 6:03 PM 

Beryoza:


I did not think it necessary to provide a translation, since I did not think that non-Greek members would be interested in this. After all I wrote this only to tease Romulus.

PSOMI ELIA KAI KOTSO VASILIA= bread, olive and Kotsos for King

DOYLEYEIS TOYS TOYRKOYS, DOYLEYEIS TORA KAI EMAS TOYS ELLHNES?= You are working(i.e. manipulating) the Turks now you are working us Greeks?

Happy now?

However I strongly protest on the pro-Turkish conduct of the management!


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August 27 2012, 6:45 PM 

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August 27 2012, 6:55 PM 

I suggest The Evian...

Never saw him lying or making "his enemy" negative about just because of his proudness...




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August 27 2012, 7:04 PM 

_Mt you little treacherous freak, why did you whine to the mods? And why are you so eager to understand every single word that I write? Why all this BIG interest in my posts? I will pay you back for this. An eye for an eye! [linked image]

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August 27 2012, 7:04 PM 

Evian is a decent Poster...

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Mustafa
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August 27 2012, 7:16 PM 


"And why are you so eager to understand every single word that I write?"


This is an english-speaking forum you little götveren (arse-giver). You have to follow the rules here, if you dont like this rule you can well puck off to another forum and speak your funny language there.
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August 27 2012, 7:29 PM 

However I strongly protest on the pro-Turkish conduct of the management!

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thats correct , actually i pointed out during the past several cases that Beryoza was deaf and silent when Mongolian members were posting threads entirely in Turkish, and whenever he saw a Greek member posting a few words in Greek he was always vigilant to give warnings at will.

This is a clear Pro Turkish stance, Beryoza probably wants to maintain his "neutral" and "objective" profile among the Turkish members at the expense of the Greek members.

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August 27 2012, 7:58 PM 

evian, good choice



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August 28 2012, 1:03 AM 

Why do the Turks stick their noses into the internal affairs of the Greek group? Did we ask for their advice?

 
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August 28 2012, 2:10 AM 

I'll start a poll in the coming days and members of the conquerers won't be able to vote..after all the candidates are voted on, the top two will have another election...

as for beryoza, he is under orders to moderate members of his group only unless an extreme violation from other groups occur...so this garbage about him having a pro turk bias is a lie..




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August 28 2012, 4:54 AM 

My reasons are that I don't have the time to commit as much as I would like to on the forum. With 3 kids and my own business and voluntary work I do its not easy.
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i understand your reasons however you should have resigned earlier when some members opened a thread pointing out to you exactly that you dont spend enough time at the forum to represent us

back then you didnt want to resign and suddenly you discovered that you have 3 kids and to run your own business which is fine with us , i just dont understand why it took you so long to decide that

what would have happened if you have never decided to resign out of egotism?

we would be forced to have a group leader that does not spend time in the forum,, thats why i pointed out in earlier threads but nobody listened to me as it is their usual custom that if the members feel that the new group leader does not cover their needs they should "resign" him despite his will.

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evian, good choice
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Evian seems good to me too as well, i especially liked some of his videos , however whatever seems good does not always necessarily mean that it is good.

What i mean is that i dont know anything concerning his political beliefs and his opinions about major issues as Greco Turkish relations etc, does he support the memorandum? is he in favor of Tsipras?

There are many questions which need to be answered by him, i dont say that it is a kind of interrogation but he needs to talk about himself a little more because as far as im concerned this member remains a mystery and i dont like mysteries.

Posting good videos its a nice thing to do and bravo to those who are doing so, however posting good videos does not necessarily make you a patriot.

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as for beryoza, he is under orders to moderate members of his group only unless an extreme violation from other groups occur...so this garbage about him having a pro turk bias is a lie..-
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im sorry mike you know how much i respect your opinions but i dont buy that, i mean yes you are right that he is under orders to moderate members of his own group

however, when it was pointed out to him that Turkish members have opened threads entirely in Turkish or they made comments in Turkish he didnt do the obvious which is to inform a Turkish mod about it in order to take action against those members

being a mod assigned only to your group does not mean that you must be deaf and blind concerning violations coming from the other group that you are not assigned to moderate, you should always listen to the complaints and inform the appropriate mod to take action against those who have commited a violation

so no lies have been said concerning Beryoza and his pro Turkish stance.

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I like evians videos also but this cannot be a reason to vote him as group leader... if you vote him I think you will be getting an unknown, with me you know my positions more or less

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with me you know my positions more or less
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to be honest i dont, at first you presented yourself supporting pro Albanian positions you know those threads concerning the independence of Corfu and similar ones, later on of course you apologized saying that it was a mistake

later on you appeared to be fond of Tsipras, now you say that you are Vasilofron


honestly we dont know anything about you

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first of all allow me to make a correction here, I never said anything "pro" the independence of Corfu, I don't want to open up an old chapter, but anyhow, all I had said at the time was simply a question "what did people know about this supposed movement?"

anyhow I can see how this can be misunderstood under the circumstances and I have admitted even raising this question was a mistake

now with regard to Tsipras, first of all let me say I do not live in Greece any longer so I do not have so much access to what is going on to Greece, for a moment it seemed that maybe Tispras would get rid of the old system, and bring in some decency , cancel the memorandum etc it seems that this was just demagogy and nothing else so I stopped my brief support for his party almost immediately when it became clear what he was about.

nevertheless I have always stated my core beliefs:

- pro Vasilias
- pro Mitsotakis-Bakoyanni
- pro Orthodoxy

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im sorry mike you know how much i respect your opinions but i dont buy that, i mean yes you are right that he is under orders to moderate members of his own group

erm...thanks for saying that I am 'right' about something I just stated..?!?

however, when it was pointed out to him that Turkish members have opened threads entirely in Turkish or they made comments in Turkish he didnt do the obvious which is to inform a Turkish mod about it in order to take action against those members

and that is where you don't know jack **** about what you posted...how would you know if he informed a turk mod or not? Are you in the moderators forum? The fact is, he does and is often informing them...see what happens when you act like you know what you are talking about? Be careful calling others a liar..

being a mod assigned only to your group does not mean that you must be deaf and blind concerning violations coming from the other group that you are not assigned to moderate, you should always listen to the complaints and inform the appropriate mod to take action against those who have commited a violation

I just proved you are full of roostershit..

so no lies have been said concerning Beryoza and his pro Turkish stance.
 yep..they were proved...I just confirmed it and others can too..

and tbh, why are you demanding all these explanations from people who want to be group leader?...and who are you to question the guy who wants to step down about his reasoning and three kids..who are you to lecture him..why don't you volunteer?..it seems you have issues with jealousy and often pick fights with anyone who wishes to lead the greeks...you are just one vote..just vote when we have the poll..quit acting loke al sharpton where you deserve special recognition in order to get your coveted endorsement.




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nd that is where you don't know jack **** about what you posted...how would you know if he informed a turk mod or not? Are you in the moderators forum? The fact is, he does and is often informing them...see what happens when you act like you know what you are talking about? Be careful calling others a liar..

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by the results, whenever he was informed of the violations by the Turkish members no action was taken by the Turkish mods which probably means that he did not inform them, if however the opposite is true then it means that the management does not apply the rules equally which is a very serious issue


I just proved you are full of roostershit..

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im sorry but you didnt prove a shvit to me Mike, you just stated your own opinion you would say anything to protect your mods quite understandable but i judge people based on the results of their actions, the fact still remains that No Turks have been punished for violating the rules and Greek members have been punished for saying something in Greek, i put the blame to the mods and rightfully so.


so no lies have been said concerning Beryoza and his pro Turkish stance.

yep..they were proved...I just confirmed it and others can too..
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the facts prove the opposite Mike , i repeat no action was taken against Turkish members when they were posting entire threads in Turkish or when they were making comments in Turkish, when Greek members were saying something in Greek Beryoza was vigilant to apply the rules, it seems that he wasnt equally vigilant to see that a Turkish mod will punish the Turkish members who violated the rules of the forum



and tbh, why are you demanding all these explanations from people who want to be group leader?...and who are you to question the guy who wants to step down about his reasoning and three kids..who are you to lecture him..why don't you volunteer?..it seems you have issues with jealousy and often pick fights with anyone who wishes to lead the greeks...you are just one vote..just vote when we have the poll..quit acting loke al sharpton where you deserve special recognition in order to get your coveted endorsement.
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i dont demand anything you make it sound as if i would punish somebody because he didnt give me explanations, i just say that i like to know some things about my potential future group leader before i vote for him, if he gives the information or not its up to him, i wouldnt vote for an unkown that i dont know where his beliefs stand, i hope you get it in your head.

Im just a member as anybody else never pretended to be anything else than i really are, i asked our former group leader some logical questions, i never questioned the reasons behind his resignation i just stated the obvious, that if he didnt have enough time to deal with us he should have resigned much earlier than he did, i also asked what would have happened if he had decided that he did not want to resign at all.



.why don't you volunteer?..it seems you have issues with jealousy and often pick fights with anyone who wishes to lead the greeks...you are just one vote..just vote when we have the poll..quit acting loke al sharpton where you deserve special recognition in order to get your coveted endorsement.
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It would be very selfish on my behalf to volunteer for a group leader im sure that there are people equally capable for the task at hand, what you say about my supposed jealousy makes no sense it would make if i had been a candidate, as you very well know im not.

However if i was a candidate i would expect from the other members to thoroughly search my background and to present myself before i become a candidate.

I dont really understand your anger, before i give my vote i want to know what im voting for, so why the hell dont you keep your instructions on how i should conduct myself to yourself?



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by the results, whenever he was informed of the violations by the Turkish members no action was taken by the Turkish mods which probably means that he did not inform them, if however the opposite is true then it means that the management does not apply the rules equally which is a very serious issue

and again, you don't know shite and are talking out of your azz...how would you have any idea what is said in the noderators forum anyway?..if you viewed it, you'd realize how incredibly wrong you are but I'm sure you wouldn't be man enough to admit it..

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im sorry but you didnt prove a shvit to me Mike, you just stated your own opinion you would say anything to protect your mods quite understandable but i judge people based on the results of their actions, the fact still remains that No Turks have been punished for violationg the rules and Greek members have been punished for saying something in Greek, i put the blame to the mods and rightfully so.

I could easily prove it to you by allowing you to view the moderators forum but you aren't important enough to me to allow that..just ask any administrator or moderator...then I will await your attempt to wiggle out of your dumb comments and accusations..

so no lies have been said concerning Beryoza and his pro Turkish stance.

many..all by you..

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the facts prove the opposite Mike , i repeat no action was taken against Turkish members when they were posting entire threads in Turkish or when they were making comments in Turkish, when Greek members were saying something in Greek Beryoza was vigilant to apply the rules, it seems that he wasnt equally vigilant to see that a Turkish mod will punish the Turkish members who violated the rules of the forum

action was taken by him..he notified others as he was supposed to and members were warned and banned..again, you are lookjing more and more like a clueless idiot with your every 'repeat' of accusations..



i dont demand anything you make it sound as if i would punish somebody because he didnt give me explanations, i just say that i like to know some things about my potential future group leader before i vote for him, if he gives the information or not its up to him, i wouldnt vote for an unkown that i dont know where his beliefs stand, i hope you get it in your head.

all I know about you is that you write long winded posts and you feud with a lot of greek members..

Im just a member as anybody else never pretended to be anything else than i really are, i asked our former group leader some logical questions, i never questioned the reasons behind his resignation i just stated the obvious, that if he didnt have enough time to deal with us he should have resigned much earlier than he did, i also asked what would have happened if he had decided that he did not want to resign at all.

and he owes you nothing..no explanation, not a thing..it was classy of him to e-mail me and announce it to you all..not everyone does that..do a search of members threads if you want to know their opinions..they don't owe you some post explaining anything to you..pompous self absorbed moron you are..



It would very selfish on my behalf to volunteer for a group leader im sure that there are people equally capable for the task at hand, what you say about my supposed jealousy makes no sense it would make if i had been a candidate, as you very well know im not.

However if i was i candidate i would expect from the others members to thoroughly search my background and to present myself before i become a candidate.

I dont really understand your anger, before i give my vote i want to know what im voting for, so why the hell dont you keep your instructions on how i should conduct myself to yourself?

because I posted what orthers are thinking....that you seem to think people need to prove their worthiness to you as you are pompous and demanding..and if you ever call me a liar again, I'll make sure you don't post here again..




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and if you ever call me a liar again, I'll make sure you don't post here again..
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you just repeated yourself Mike and you didnt prove to me anything, if you look at your above post you are full of accusations against me, and now you threaten that if i call you again a liar you will make sure that i will not post here again.

so Im calling you a liar Mike this way you will understand that accusing the others when you are not yourself man enough to hear accusations against you is the wrong thing to do and it doesnt work with me.

Do whatever you please Mike i really dont care about it.



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friendly advice, just drop it mate
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I don't really care if you post here either onty..all you are in what others have long said you are..a long winded crybaby wearing a skirt who writes posts that no one reads...and you can't get along wirth any of your countrymen because they won't take you seriously...so you are done for a few days and left to write long winded posts to yourself on sticky notes..bye titty baby..I proved you wrong and you are throwing a fit about it..lol..


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Core-beliefs aside (pro-king, emperor, cretan mob families, etc.) whoever's going to be group leader needs to be resident or at least citizen of the Hellenic Republic, pay taxes in our country and also needs to have served the Armed Forces or serving the Police/Firefighting corps. Moreover they need to know how to read and write Greek (i.e. have at least Apotyterio Lykeiou). A small interview with them can clear all this quite easily. It's funny when all sorts of folk here do not even meet those basic criteria. And it's much funnier when they pretend to know military issues or politics (when in fact they live in the '60s).




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My reasons are that I don't have the time to commit as much as I would like to on the forum. With 3 kids and my own business and voluntary work I do its not easy.
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i understand your reasons however you should have resigned earlier when some members opened a thread pointing out to you exactly that you dont spend enough time at the forum to represent us

back then you didnt want to resign and suddenly you discovered that you have 3 kids and to run your own business which is fine with us , i just dont understand why it took you so long to decide that

what would have happened if you have never decided to resign out of egotism?

we would be forced to have a group leader that does not spend time in the forum,, thats why i pointed out in earlier threads but nobody listened to me as it is their usual custom that if the members feel that the new group leader does not cover their needs they should "resign" him despite his will.





Onty I think you are now banned but ill respond anyway!

When the thread came up before I honestly thought I would be posting more but I have been alot busier than I thought with the Olympics etc etc so Yes maybe I should have resigned then. However it was only a couple of months ago so wasn't that long ago really.

I would've resigned no matter if we had that conversation anyway, I didn't need to do it at all did I? My Ego cant be that big then can it! The Turkish group leader was getting people moaning at him for not being on here long enough too and im probably on as long as him!

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"I like evians videos also but this cannot be a reason to vote him as group leader... if you vote him I think you will be getting an unknown, with me you know my positions more or less"
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actualy we know you less than everyone!!!!
confusing ,also you got a mixture of beliefs!!!!

as far for evian i remember him in waff as long i am here...........propably he is older member than me...



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EletheriaHThanatos nathing against you mate...just saying...

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@Everyone: Don't propose/vote for me. I don't have any time for more than what I'm already doing (yt, fb, my profession and family). I'll casually leave comments here and there, i.e. I'm fine with being just an ordinary member.




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EletheriaHThanatos nathing against you mate...just saying...


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"Core-beliefs aside (pro-king, emperor, cretan mob families, etc.) whoever's going to be group leader needs to be resident or at least citizen of the Hellenic Republic, pay taxes in our country and also needs to have served the Armed Forces or serving the Police/Firefighting corps. Moreover they need to know how to read and write Greek (i.e. have at least Apotyterio Lykeiou). A small interview with them can clear all this quite easily. It's funny when all sorts of folk here do not even meet those basic criteria. And it's much funnier when they pretend to know military issues or politics (when in fact they live in the '60s)."

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Sorry Guys but disagree with this above!!

Especially citizen of Greece and paying taxes! Does it make me less Hellenic because I'm Cypriot? or that I live in the UK??

I feel just as Greek in the UK as my brothers (Literally Bros. live there) in Cyprus!

OK the knowledge side I agree with and have no probs with that



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"Does it make me less Hellenic because I'm Cypriot?"

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theevian should be group leader because he makes military videos.

 
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The group leader nonsense is not what matters. What matters is that having each side with their mods is innately unfair to the Greek side. The Turks are an ultra-nationalist(they think they have a right to take from other nations as a matter of course) lunatic people who would brag on G&T forum 24/7 if starting tomorrow their military implemented a plan to genocide or deport the Kurds. But on the global forums they would deny it and try to act humanitarian to further their state's interests. Meanwhile the Greek people have been "Sovietized" since 1974 to think even being a nationlist(to be proud of and defend your nation) is a curse word.

This results into a de-facto system of double standards where Turks can get away with alot more when posting, because their mods will always be ultra-nationalist, and would never say warn a member for posting pics of dead "Kekos". But the Greek mods likely would if a Greek behaved like that. And what matters more regarding this nonsense is it just a simple online reflection of real-life matters with higher stakes. The Greek government acts like a dead body, controlled from Berlin, while the Turkish diplomacy acts like the Ottoman Empire never fell...

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"Does it make me less Hellenic because I'm Cypriot? or that I live in the UK??"
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If you have RoC citizenship and some sort of Greek education you're good to go as far as I'm concerned. Having served or going to, is always a plus in a military forum/group. But this is only my take on the issue. I have true belief in the Hellenic community abroad and their commitment to our nation.

"theevian should be group leader because he makes military videos."
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Thanks for the nomination but you need to go through the thread again and read that I've already declined the position.

 
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No I don't have to go through the thread again because I was being sarcastic.

 
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nike ..since you are not a member of any greek group, you should cram it and know your role....you won't be voting..


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August 30 2012, 9:38 AM 

Evian makes some good points and will receive honours if I become group leader

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