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EU and NATO Look on at Greece's Pampered Armed Forces
Posted by: Judy Dempsey Monday, August 27, 2012

One would have imagined that the Greek government would have taken a sledgehammer to the defense budget back in 2009 when the debt crisis first took hold of this small country in the south east of Europe.

But no.

One would have thought too that the European Union and NATO might have used the euro crisis as an ideal opportunity to encourage countries to share defense equipment and cut back on wasteless duplication.

But no.

Greece went on a buying spree, purchasing submarines, fighter jets, and tanks from Germany and France. Not that they needed them. The region was stable. In 2009, almost 28 percent of its then 10 billion budget was spent on military equipmenthigher than in the United States or any other NATO country.

Greeces defense budget was 3.2 percent of gross domestic product. What a luxury for the Greek military establishment.

Some cuts were made during 2010 and again last year. Salaries for the 136,000 army personnel have been reduced and the shopping spree has come to an end.

Remarkably, however, Greek defense spending still accounts for 2.1 percent of gross domestic product, according to NATO. After the United States, Greece is the second biggest defense spender among the 27 NATO countries in relation to its GDP. That is astonishing for a country in a deep economic crisis.

Why then has the Greek government been so slow and reluctant in using the economic crisis to overhaul its armed forces?

After all, it can no longer justify that it needs all this expensive equipment and soldiers to see off any attack by Turkey. Relations with Turkey have become stable.

And if you look at Greeces involvement in EU or NATO missions, its participation has been negligible. It has only 122 troops in Afghanistan. They are based, not out in the provinces but in the compound of Kabul International Airport.

Greeces record in supporting EU missions has been weak too. So clearly, it is not using its soldiers to boost either EU or NATO operations.

Ironically, one reason for the delay in restructuring the armed forces has to do with the debt crisis.

The Greek government still has to pay off its contracts for the expensive equipment it purchased over the past few years. In the current situation, it does not want to anger Germany and France by leaving their bills unpaid.

The second reason is political. The Greek military has 500 military bases and 17 training centers, many of which are under-used. But their mere presence means jobs for the locals as well as political influence and patronage for the army officers and regional politicians. Closing bases and barracks, difficult at the best of times, would now particularly provoke local anger and despair.

The third reason is social. Of the 136,000 personnel, 90,000 are soldiers. Thats a huge army for a country of under 11 million people. Last year alone, with equipment expenses down, personnel costs accounted for 73.9 percent of the defense budget.

It is easier said than done to take soldiers and the supporting army personnel off the books.

And in Greece right now, it is particularly difficult. What do you do with young men with a military training? Its not a good idea making then unemployed, said Samuel Pelo-Freeman, military analyst at SIPRI.

In other words, in these difficult times, the government is not prepared to introduce such radical defense cuts. The risks could be high.

It is not that the government fears a rebellion by the army, were that to happen. No defense analyst in Greece fears a return of the junta that was finally ousted in 1974.

But what they do say is that the system of patronage, a generous pension system, and consistently high defense spending is difficult to dismantle.

But is it really easierand more justto further cut welfare benefits and pensions for the old and the poor?

And is it really understandable that neither the EU nor NATO has eased the path for Greece to cut its defense budget in a way that would benefit both organizations?


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After all, it can no longer justify that it needs all this expensive equipment and soldiers to see off any attack by Turkey. Relations with Turkey have become stable.

And if you look at Greeces involvement in EU or NATO missions, its participation has been negligible. It has only 122 troops in Afghanistan. They are based, not out in the provinces but in the compound of Kabul International Airport.

Greeces record in supporting EU missions has been weak too. So clearly, it is not using its soldiers to boost either EU or NATO operations.

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Coalition chiefs to decide fate of special salaries

by Costas Papachlimintzos 28 Aug 2012


The contentious issue of whether to cut the so-called special salaries enjoyed by about 195,000 civil servants is now in the hands of the leaders of the three coalition parties.

Judges, diplomats, political appointees, state doctors, professors, the church hierarchy and the police and military enjoy the special salaries, which were supposed to be cut by 12 percent on July 1 under the terms of the second memorandum.

After an inconclusive meeting on August 27 between Finance Minister Yannis Stournaras, Defence Minister Panos Panagiotopoulos and Public Order Minister Nikos Dendias on the issue, it is now up to coalition leaders Antonis Samaras, Evangelos Venizelos and Fotis Kouvelis to decide if and to what extent the special salaries will be cut.

Cutting the special salaries by 12 percent would result in government savings of 100m euros this year alone.

The special salaries account for one-third of all public-sector wage costs and were exempted from any cuts under the first memorandum agreement.

According to reports, the government is considering the following cuts for special salary employees: six percent for the police and military, ten percent for university professors and doctors, and 20 percent for judges, diplomats and members of the Orthodox church hierarchy.

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According to reports, the government is considering the following cuts for special salary employees:

six percent for the police and military,

ten percent for university professors and doctors,

and 20 percent for judges, diplomats and members of the Orthodox church hierarchy.







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...considering the population of Greece.. Yes, the armed forces of Greece are bloated.. but then again.. look at who we have as neighbours.. it's not like we have a choice as to the size OR the budget that we allocate to defence..

"Not that they needed them. The region was stable."
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Balkans were on fire, non-stop from 1992 until 2002. Yeah... the article is BS.





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