Well, I'm at 32%, which makes me hipper and/or more juvenile than anyone here so far save Robin. (I knew there was an advantage in never having procreated!) However, given JB's previous thread from a couple days ago about the significance of the number 32 (at least in relation to the Fantastic Four), it somehow seems as though my score should have been his!
Hey, Stephen, as of today you can get married right here in Oregon, the grand, liberal mecca where I live! My friend and I--who aren't gay--were even toying with the idea of signing up for a marriage certificate just so we could say "eff you" to Prez Dubya. I told him that he could supply the rice, while I supplied the self-loathing and crippling emotional baggage...
File Rosie O'Donnell under "Please, Don't Help Us!" then!
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Rosie O'Donnell and Kelly Carpenter have been together for six years and are raising four children. Whatever one believes about the legality of the union (dubious), or the politics of their timing (obvious), the relationship itself appears genuine from the outside. I've seen nothing that suggests that either do not respect the marital institution. Care to offer some examples to back up your statement, or shall we file it under meaningless sound bite?
And, Steven, would you really want Rosie O'Donnell's help anyway? She's a scarry monster! Me? I want to see George Michael and his Texas boyfriend come here to get married!
Speaking of Gay Marriage - dig this - every so often I tune into the local un-liberal radio to keep tabs on the enemy - and our local conservative, Michael Savage, was ranting about how gays have declared war on America and all that, and he pointed out that SF Mayor Gavin Newsom had only approved of Gay Marriages to cover up his failure as a Mayor. Failure to do all that he was elected to do.
OK - here's some facts, straight from a San Franciscan - (who didn't, by the way, vote for Newsom!) - if you're hearing this on any of your radio programs or whatever in your neck of the woods - Newsom has been Mayor for just over a month. You do the math - how much failure could he be hiding in just one month.
Man! And in other news, as of today, the Gay Marriage rate is holding at 100%, while Straight Marriages are still only lasting roughly 50% of the time! (With "facts" like these, maybe I could host a radio show!)
Rosie O'Donnell and Kelly Carpenter have been together for six years and are raising four children. Whatever one believes about the legality of the union (dubious), or the politics of their timing (obvious), the relationship itself appears genuine from the outside. I've seen nothing that suggests that either do not respect the marital institution. Care to offer some examples to back up your statement, or shall we file it under meaningless sound bite?
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Pay more attention to the Causes you're supporting. Rosie's announcement that she was getting married as a protest turned her nuptuals into exactly what the Far Right is afraid of -- Gay's not respecting the "sanctity" of marriage.
Chopping down trees is not a very good way of showing that we should not be chopping down trees.
Did the "test" again and came up 44%. The kicker is in the "Bonus Round" I think. In the first pass I answered all the questions, this time I answered only those that actually worked. (Having never smoked, per se, I have never "quit" smoking, for instance.)
I still think the house in the suburbs is costing me, tho!
<One can picture George W and Jerry Falwell pointing at their TV sets and saying "See! See! We toldja!">
Every time we sneeze George and Jerry yell "See! See! We toldja!" I can't get my undies in a twist every time the irrational right spews more blah blah. They will NEVER be convinced. Those we are after are the enormous, fair-minded but disinterested middle, a group that love, or at least loved Rosie. It can be argued that she has gotten to weird for her audience. At any rate, no minds are changed by being quiet and doing nothing.
<<Rosie's announcement that she was getting married as a protest turned her nuptuals into exactly what the Far Right is afraid of -- Gay's not respecting the "sanctity" of marriage.>>
An excellent point.
What concerns me most about the recent debate is how many people are obsessed with the notion of outlawing gay marriage, yet offer no objections to the seemingly endless string of "reality" TV shows that at best trivialize and at worst mock the institution of marriage.
Personally, I'm in favor of a Constitutional amendment banning FOX from producing any more installments of "the Bachelor," "Joe Millionaire," or "My Big Fat Obnoxious Fiance."
Or, as I said in an earlier thread, if people are so concerned about protecting the sanctity of marriage, they shouldn't ban gay marriage, they should ban divorce.
They should ban adultery if they want to protect the sanctity of marriage.
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Adultery is still illegal in most states, isn't it?
(By the way, how many of you are aware of the so-called "Wicked Bible", published in the 17th Century, and in which, due to a printing error, the word "not" was omitted from Exodus 20:14, the 7th Commandment?)
"Twenty-six states continue to have anti-adultery laws on the books. These laws vary considerably. Some define adultery as any intercourse outside marriage. According to others, it occurs when a married person lives with someone other than his or her spouse. In West Virginia and North Carolina, simply "to lewdly and lasciviously associate" with anyone other than one's spouse is to be adulterous.
All but seven states punish both people involved. Colorado, Georgia, Nebraska, North Dakota, and Utah only punish the married person. In the District of Columbia and in Michigan, when a married man sleeps with an unmarried woman, only the man is guilty, but when a married woman sleeps with an unmarried man, they're both guilty.... Punishments also vary. Adultery is a felony in Massachusetts, Michigan, Oklahoma, and Idaho, and a misdemeanor everywhere else.
In practice, adultery laws matter little: Only one case--against an Alabama man--has been prosecuted in the last five years. Most states have not enforced their adultery laws since World War II."
Well, I scored a 32%, which appatently means there's hope for me.
As for the other topic in this thread, I remain as confused and perplexed at this whole "mating" system you have on this planet. I'm not talking about sex; that part's easy. It's the whole dating and marriage and interpersonal relationship business that remains as foreign to me as coptic runes.
As for the other topic in this thread, I remain as confused and perplexed at this whole "mating" system you have on this planet. I'm not talking about sex; that part's easy. It's the whole dating and marriage and interpersonal relationship business that remains as foreign to me as coptic runes.
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All women are insane, and all men are stupid. Memorize this, and all human interpersonal relationships will make perfect sense.