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My Piece for the Cockrum Book

March 5 2004 at 4:03 PM

John Byrne  (Login johnbyrne)
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(Login craigdvc)
Byrne Victim

Re: My Piece for the Cockrum Book

March 5 2004, 4:05 PM 

Incredible. Nice work JB

 
 

(Login btx109)
Byrne Victim

Re: My Piece for the Cockrum Book

March 5 2004, 4:07 PM 

Thanks for sharing that, John. You always drew my favorite rendition of Colossus. That's really sweet!

 
 
Anonymous
(Login bill_austin)

Re: My Piece for the Cockrum Book

March 5 2004, 4:07 PM 

OH MY FIGGIN' GWAD!!!

Great work, Master Byrne!

Is there a reason for picking those two X-Characters?


 
 

Brendan Howard
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Re: My Piece for the Cockrum Book

March 5 2004, 4:08 PM 

Gorgeous.

Brendan Howard

 
 

Anonymous
(Login johnbyrne)
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Re: My Piece for the Cockrum Book

March 5 2004, 4:09 PM 

Is there a reason for picking those two X-Characters?


*****


Dave created 'em.

 
 


(Login brihunt)
Byrne Victim

Re: My Piece for the Cockrum Book

March 5 2004, 4:12 PM 

Confirms my belief that Colossus is one of the best looking visual characters ever. He always drew my eye on any page.

-Brian Hunt

 
 
Corey Johnson
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Byrne Victim

Re: My Piece for the Cockrum Book

March 5 2004, 4:12 PM 

All I can say is...WOW.

 
 

(Login DavidPLyons)
Byrne Victim

Also

March 5 2004, 4:14 PM 

Aren't these two, along with Jean, Dave's two favorite X-Men?

 
 


(Login aberrebbi)
Byrne Victim

Re: My Piece for the Cockrum Book

March 5 2004, 4:16 PM 

It's too bad you lost it and your new stuff ain't no good

 
 
Anonymous
(Login bill_austin)

Re: My Piece for the Cockrum Book

March 5 2004, 4:17 PM 

Hi John,

I guess I was asking, "since Dave created all of those NEW X-Men, was there a reason for picking those two out of all of them?"

Sorry for not being clear. Maybe there is no story behind picking just those two out of the group?

My guess was that those two were Dave's favorites. But I didn't know and there might not be that much of an aswer to this.

 
 
Mike Brisbois
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Byrne Victim

Re: My Piece for the Cockrum Book

March 5 2004, 4:19 PM 

Gorgeous.

John, they should let you draw that book. Is that something from Marvel? I think it would be a nice fit.

Something to consider.

 
 


(Login EricLund)
Byrne Victim

AWESOME!

March 5 2004, 4:19 PM 

GREAT DRAWING!

Love the detail in the leg musculature....


 
 

Brendan Howard
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Re: My Piece for the Cockrum Book

March 5 2004, 4:20 PM 

As you probably know, Dave did not create Banshee, Wolverine, or Sunfire. That leaves Storm, Thunderbird, and the two JB drew.

Brendan Howard

 
 

Anonymous
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The Chief

Re: My Piece for the Cockrum Book

March 5 2004, 4:21 PM 

Maybe there is no story behind picking just those two out of the group?


*******


You know, probably the First Question You Should Never Ask an Artist is "Why?"

 
 

Andrew
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Byrne Victim

Re: My Piece for the Cockrum Book

March 5 2004, 4:21 PM 

Awesome John! Thanks for sharing that with us!



 
 


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Byrne Victim

My Piece for the Cockrum Book

March 5 2004, 4:24 PM 

Meesa like!

 
 

Anonymous
(Login johnbyrne)
The Chief

Re: My Piece for the Cockrum Book

March 5 2004, 4:26 PM 

Meesa like!


******



Men have died for less, you know. . . . .

 
 


(Login GreggAllinson)
Byrne Victim

So...

March 5 2004, 4:28 PM 

I guess now's not the time to do my bit about Jar Jar refusing to wear pants?

PS: More seriously, how do I get a hold of the Cockrum tribute book?


    
This message has been edited by GreggAllinson on Mar 5, 2004 4:29 PM


 
 
Robert Kowalewski II
(Login Renfairrob)
Byrne Victim

DROOL......

March 5 2004, 4:32 PM 

Now I have to get this tribute book, can someone post the link to it again? Incredible piece John, just incredible.

Robert K.
Byrned in Austin

Remember, wherever you go, there you are.

 
 


(Login wiredemon)
Byrne Victim

Re: My Piece for the Cockrum Book

March 5 2004, 4:35 PM 

JB, am I wasting my time playing "Where's Barney"? (well, yeah, I'm supposed to be working now, so some people would say "yes" regardless of the outcome).

 
 


(Login DocMartin4)
Byrne Victim

Wow

March 5 2004, 4:37 PM 

Seeing this reminds me of just how much I miss seeing you work on M*rv*l characters.

A beautiful piece.

Martin Arlt..........................

 
 


(Login Joe_Martino)
Byrne Victim

Re: My Piece for the Cockrum Book

March 5 2004, 4:39 PM 

Nice!

Joe Martino
http://www.jgmcomics.com

 
 
Jani
(Login super85)
Byrne Victim

Re: My Piece for the Cockrum Book

March 5 2004, 4:41 PM 

Looks Great!.

 
 


(Login bpeck)
Byrne Victim

Buy the Cockrum Tribute book at.....

March 5 2004, 4:43 PM 

JB,that is a sweet piece.

To buy the book just go to Dave's updated site:

http://davecockrum.net/benefitbk.htm


They also have images of some of the other pieces which will be included in the book up on that page. Buy the book thru Dave's site as more of the money will go to him.

On a sadder note, Dave Cockrum has suffered a relapse (not sure if this info has been posted here or not). Find out more at Neal Adam's site: http://nealadams.com/news2.html

Be seeing you,
Brian

 
 
Steve Merritt
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Re: My Piece for the Cockrum Book

March 5 2004, 4:53 PM 

That's the best drawing of Colossus in the last ten years at it didn't even come out of Marvel! Nice! I like the lines on the arms and legs, something that's missing from the Ultimate version.

 
 


(Login BrianTalley)
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Re: My Piece for the Cockrum Book

March 5 2004, 5:01 PM 

Superb, JB.....just superb. Bravo.

 
 


(Login MattHawes)
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Re: My Piece for the Cockrum Book

March 5 2004, 5:03 PM 

Look really good!

Thanks for showing it to us!


 
 


(Login Trevah)
Byrne Victim

Re: My Piece for the Cockrum Book

March 5 2004, 5:03 PM 

Great image.

For some reason, the Bamf and the fade-out on Nighcrawler's legs remind me of P. Craig Russell.

 
 

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Byrne Victim

Re: My Piece for the Cockrum Book

March 5 2004, 5:06 PM 

Great work!

 
 

Chris B
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Byrne Victim

My Piece for the Cockrum Book

March 5 2004, 5:09 PM 


Begin Sarcasm


Yep...that's pretty good. But honestly John....couldn't there be a little more detail? Geez....I only counted 700 individual segemnts on that mass Peter is holding! Just another example of why people say you just don't care anymore.


End Sarcasm


Beautiful piece.

 
 
Shaun Crowell
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Byrne Victim

Re: My Piece for the Cockrum Book

March 5 2004, 5:10 PM 

It is nice to see Collossus and Nightcrawler in their original costumes. The "new" X-men circa 94-143 had some of the best costumes. Much better than the leather look.


Are the pieces from this book going to be auctioned off?
Shaun

 
 

(Login comicart)
Byrne Victim

Wow!

March 5 2004, 5:11 PM 

Looks great John!
I'm so glad you were able to contribute such a terrific piece.

Terry

 
 


(Login bpeck)
Byrne Victim

Re: My Piece for the Cockrum Book

March 5 2004, 5:21 PM 

As I understand it all the pieces from the book will be auctioned off. I have heard Heritage Auctions will be handling it. Just goto Dave' site to find out more, http://davecockrum.net

Be seeing you,
Brian

 
 

(Login Al_Nickerson)
Byrne Victim

Re: My Piece for the Cockrum Book

March 5 2004, 5:22 PM 

Man, John, that's a great piece of art! You should kick in the doors at M****l and demand to work on one of the X-books! Then, I would have a reason to start reading an X-book again.

Also, is it me, or does anyone else, after looking at this pin-up, really miss the real Marvel Comics?

I am sad.

best,
Al Nickerson
http://www.arggh.com

 
 
Steve Gumm
(Login SteveGumm)
Byrne Victim

I'll join in the chorus...

March 5 2004, 5:25 PM 

I LOVE IT! I really dig the Colossus' armor having more bands (not sure that's the correct term)!

You're quite mean showing us the X-Men again!

Nostalgia is getting the best of me on this one... gotta see more! WAAAAAAHHH!! WAAAAAHHH!! WAAAAAHH!!


MARVEL HAS GOT TO HELP WAKE UP! FIRE THE POSERS AND BRING BACK THE MAN!!!

John you made our day,
Steve

 
 


(Login Trevah)
Byrne Victim

Re: My Piece for the Cockrum Book

March 5 2004, 5:30 PM 

It WOULD be cool if Byrne pencilled the Joss Whedon run on X-Men.

 
 

Andrew
(Login AndrewKneath)
Byrne Victim

Re: My Piece for the Cockrum Book

March 5 2004, 6:48 PM 

I think this would be a good opportunity to thank Joe Quesada for the fact that we no longer have this creator working on an X-Men book.

Nice one Joe!


 
 

Anonymous
(Login johnbyrne)
The Chief

Re: My Piece for the Cockrum Book

March 5 2004, 7:36 PM 

Thanks, all!


That drawing is all Sharpie, by the way, for those who like to keep track.

JB-)

 
 


(Login RickLundeen)
Byrne Victim

ahhh...

March 5 2004, 7:42 PM 

It is SO nice to see some Byrne X-men again. -Rick

 
 


(Login ArgentFox)
Byrne Victim

Re: My Piece for the Cockrum Book

March 5 2004, 7:48 PM 

Seeing that picture took me back to my boyhood and reading X-Men 134 again. X-Men 134 was the first comic I ever owned.

o/~ Memmmmm'riess..



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Good Judgement comes from Experience
And Experience comes from... Bad Judgement

 
 

Dave Whiteley
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Byrne Victim

Hmmm...

March 5 2004, 8:02 PM 

It may be just me, but the inking seems to have a kind of Simonson vibe about it, espeically Colossus' face...

Or it could just be this awful headache I have. Great piece, though!

Dave W

 
 


(Login DaThing)
Byrne Victim

Torture...Sheer TORTURE!

March 5 2004, 8:12 PM 

It's torture to see these once great and wonderful characters so wonderfully rendered by an artist of JB's caliber. Truly an exquisite piece of art JB. I sorely miss you playing in the MARVEL universe.

 
 

Greg
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Byrne Victim

Re: My Piece for the Cockrum Book

March 5 2004, 8:32 PM 

If only we had the option of buying a comic with that image as part of a story. Nice job, JB!

 
 


(Login Arcus99)
Byrne Victim

Re: My Piece for the Cockrum Book

March 5 2004, 9:31 PM 

Incredible picture JB! I have a new image for my desktop now! Thanks for sharing!

I'm not a Byrne Victim, I'm a volunteer!
" Tho my bone break and muscles tear, I'll take this garbage out!"

I'm not a Byrne Victim, I'm a volunteer!


    
This message has been edited by Arcus99 on Mar 5, 2004 9:36 PM


 
 
Will Jackson
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Byrne Victim

Re: My Piece for the Cockrum Book

March 5 2004, 10:41 PM 

X-cellent!...sorry...just couldn't resist.

 
 

(Login Hairybeast)

Re: My Piece for the Cockrum Book

March 5 2004, 11:12 PM 

That's an excellent piece. Colossus was one of my favorite All-New, All-Different, X-Men. Along with Nightcrawler. I'm sorry to hear once again of Mr. Cockrum's condition.

 
 

(Login WeaponX606)
Byrne Victim

Fantastic picture, of course!

March 6 2004, 12:12 AM 

That picture is a fantastic tribute to Dave Cockrum! To me only three artists have really done justice to the post reprint X-Men: Dave Cockrum, John Byrne, and Jim Lee. Speaking of Mr. Cockrum, does anyone know why it took so long for John Byrne to start doing the covers to X-Men? If I remember correctly, Dave Cockrum did the covers to X-Men #108-111, George Perez #112, then finally John Byrne with #113. For a bi-monthly book, that means JB was on the book for almost a year before he did a cover to his own book. Insight anyone?

 
 

David Spurlock
(Login DaThing)
Byrne Victim

Hope I'm not stepping on JB's toes...

March 6 2004, 1:22 AM 

It's been told in another thread so I hope this doesn't constitute me trying to speak for JB...but, TPTB at Marvel back then didn't feel JB was good enough to do the covers at first so they had DC do the covers while JB did the interiors.

 
 

(Login bchry)
Byrne Victim

Re: My Piece for the Cockrum Book

March 6 2004, 1:47 AM 

Wow!
Whenever I see some new X-Men artwork done by you John, brings back a lot of fond memories from when you originally did the book. Does something like this bring back any of the old days feel for you?

 
 


(Login billjohnson)
Byrne Victim

Re: My Piece for the Cockrum Book

March 6 2004, 7:21 AM 

Just adding my voice to the chorus of "Wow!"

I sure miss those characters, it's been too long since they were done right.

Beautiful piece JB!

Bill

 
 

Andrew
(Login AndrewKneath)
Byrne Victim

Re: My Piece for the Cockrum Book

March 6 2004, 8:34 AM 

"It may be just me, but the inking seems to have a kind of Simonson vibe about it, espeically Colossus' face..."

I would agree with you there, it does have that sort of angular look about it, so did Generations 3 to a certain extent.

 
 

Anonymous
(Login johnbyrne)
The Chief

Re: My Piece for the Cockrum Book

March 6 2004, 8:46 AM 

"It may be just me, but the inking seems to have a kind of Simonson vibe about it, espeically Colossus' face..."

I would agree with you there, it does have that sort of angular look about it, so did Generations 3 to a certain extent.

*****


Interesting. I don't think there are more than a dozen (if that) straight lines anywhere in that drawing, so I wonder what you see as "angular"?

Must be that "eye of the beholder" thing. . .

JB-)

 
 


(Login AndrewKneath)
Byrne Victim

Re: My Piece for the Cockrum Book

March 6 2004, 9:24 AM 

JB : "Interesting. I don't think there are more than a dozen (if that) straight lines anywhere in that drawing, so I wonder what you see as "angular"?"

Straight lines or not, angular is the word that best comes to my mind to describe the Simonson style that some aspects of this picture (Colossus basically) are vaguely reminiscent of to at least two beholders here.

Perhaps Colossus's armour accentuates the impression.

Maybe it is just that your style has changed considerably in the long years since you handled these characters.

I find your depiction of Nightcrawler quite interesting here too!

Art analysis aside, a great piece of work!


 
 

Dave Pruitt
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Chairman Emeritus

Re: My Piece for the Cockrum Book

March 6 2004, 11:39 AM 

Niiice... I ordered my copy of the tribute weeks ago. Here's hoping the money gets to the aide of Mr. Cockrum ASAP, and he makes a full recovery.

 
 

(Login CoreyJohnson)
Byrne Victim

Re: My Piece for the Cockrum Book

March 6 2004, 12:58 PM 

The only thing that looks Simonson-esque on JB's piece is the crosshatching on Colossus' "leggings."

I love it when artists really accentuate the "segmentation" of Colossus' skin. Really visually powerful stuff!

Oh yeah--and Nightcrawler looks awesome too!

 
 
Marc T.
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Byrne Victim

Re: My Piece for the Cockrum Book

March 7 2004, 9:19 AM 



I thought I'd try this. It was quick and dirty, and I don't have the file space for higher resolution.I may end up enjoying this photoshop.

 
 
CJ Grebb
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Re: My Piece for the Cockrum Book

March 7 2004, 1:49 PM 

I wonder if the editors at Marvel ever had a meeting about trying to establish some standard of exactly how far apart the "rings" on Colossus' armored form should be. When I draw Colossus, I always do it John Romita Jr. style, with about three times the distance between the segments.

JR Jr. was, of course, the artist on X-men when I started collecting the book, so his version of the X-Men will always be "my" version as well.

Wonderful art, JB, thanks!

CJ

 
 
Steven
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Re: My Piece for the Cockrum Book

March 7 2004, 2:15 PM 

Haven't seen the X-Men look so good in years.






 
 

Andrew
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Byrne Victim

Re: My Piece for the Cockrum Book

March 7 2004, 3:45 PM 

"Haven't seen the X-Men look so good in years!"

I haven't seen The X-Men in years.

 
 


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Byrne Victim

Re: My Piece for the Cockrum Book

March 7 2004, 9:17 PM 

Forgive my ignorance but what does a sharpie look like?? Is it like a marker pen??

thanks! Really nice to see JB's rendition of X-men

 
 

Anonymous
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The Chief

Re: My Piece for the Cockrum Book

March 7 2004, 10:22 PM