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April 26 2004 at 3:29 PM

The Poster Formerly Known as B. Diddy  (Login b_diddy)
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With my wife away and since I'm battling a cold, I did little but watch movies this weekend:

THIRTEEN -- truly a frightening look at what 13-year-olds are doing nowadays; it was hard to believe a mother could let so much slip past her but i guess a single, alchoholic mother has a lot on her plaste.

HELLBOY -- having never read the comic, i enjoyed the movie quite a bit; not amazing but certainly worth the money; Ron Perlman was great

THE PUNISHER -- interesting take on the mythos; the 2nd act felt totally divorced from the rest of the film (i.e. the "comic booky" Russian and the guitar guy; didn't like Travolta but Tom Jane was really good

KILL BILL vol 2 -- this couldn't have felt more different than volume 1; i really enjoyed it and am curious how they're going to cut together the 2 films (if at all) in the DVD

MAN ON FIRE -- damn, if it was anyone else, this would have been a mediocre revenge movie but Denzel literally burns it up in this one. he's an amazing actor.

 
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FlavioSapha
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Re: Movie Mania

April 26 2004, 3:44 PM 

This weekend I was pleasantly surprised to find out that CITY OF GOD is one of the coolest crime films ever. Very honest portrait of life in the slums of Rio. Stunning photography.
Check out the trailer (even though the voice-over is kinda misleading about the premise of the film).

http://www.apple.com/trailers/miramax/city_of_god.html

 
 

Dwayne Ferguson
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Re: Movie Mania

April 26 2004, 3:46 PM 

"MAN ON FIRE -- damn, if it was anyone else, this would have been a mediocre revenge movie but Denzel literally burns it up in this one. he's an amazing actor."

Im all over this one Tuesday- the trailors have looked GREAT!
Too bad the reviews seem "ho hum" but I don't care what they say, Denzel always gets my benifit of the doubt even tho' his last two movies haven't been that good.


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Brendan Howard
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Re: Movie Mania

April 26 2004, 4:58 PM 

CITY OF GOD kicked my ass. One of the best foreign-language films I have ever seen. Oh, the tension. Oh, the style. Loved it. (Many of the child actors were amateurs -- interesting how non-pro kiddies often turn in the most evocotive performances.)

THIRTEEN was also an impressive piece of work. Could have easily been a catalog of cliches, but it sidesteps them with style and specificity and ends up being instructive without preaching. Don't expect it will be everyone's cup of tea, tho.

Brendan Howard

 
 
Corey Albert
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A frank (Castle) evaluation

April 26 2004, 4:59 PM 

Finally got around to seeing “Punisher” this weekend. Not nearly as powerful as “Kill Bill 2,” but also not nearly as horrible as I was necessarily expecting, either. I wouldn’t recommend it to any non-comics fan—not when they can rent “Dirty Harry” or “Deathwish”—but I suspect that anybody at this forum would find it mildly diverting. Still, the best part for me was finally getting to see the “Spider-Man II” preview on the big screen. Looking at this over the Net, I thought it seemed a little shoddy, but seeing it full-screen I must say that it looks awesome!

On a smaller scale, I checked out “My Architect,” the documentary about the son of famous architect Louis Kahn who went on a quest to discover who his late father was. We get to see some really pretty buildings, and get to experience some fairly interesting Jewish angst, but as docs guy it was only moderately engrossing. I think I would have enjoyed it more if, at some point, the son had melodramatically shouted out “Kahnnnnnnnn!” even as the camera pulled back to emphasize his rage. Unfortunately, though, this never happened, unless they’re saving it for the DVD extras.

 
 

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Re: Movie Mania

April 26 2004, 7:18 PM 

MAN ON FIRE-

Saw a preview of this about three weeks ago. I'm a huge fan of crime drama / noir but this one just didn't grab me. Denzel is exceptional, as is the little girl (whose role is challenging and pivotal). The cinematography is gorgeous too; they really capture the simultaneous squalor and beauty of Mexico. The problem is that the purportedly controversially violent story is actually sadly friggingly by-the-numbers and tame.

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Possibly the worst thing a movie trying to be mysterious and suspenseful can do is to show it's cards so early.
I guessed one of the big "twists" of the kidnapping (the husband's involvement) at about minute two. Denzel's slow but steady falling in love with his girl protectee is better-handled but also as inevitable as the sands from the first time he tries to be distant. The eventual hunting down of the other kidnapper is equally anticlimactic and unsatisfying for just the opposite reason; we have never seen him before and have no chance of figuring his identity out, so who cares who he is?

Strangely, the middle of the movie (Denzel's failure to protect the girl and his single-minded bloodbath search for her killers) is the best section. Typically the middle is where a mediocre movie falls apart, but here Denzel is most moving and interesting to us, revealing the monster that is required to do what is necessary to avenge an angel. This is Denzel's most anti-heroic performance to date (he does things that would shock even his character in TRAINING DAY), and he plays it well.

Probably the biggest disappointment is the total misuse of Christopher Walken. Initially positioned to be the fulcrum of the entire story, Walken ultimately disappears for over an hour and then only reappears long enough to remind us what a waste it is that he is even in this picture, then he is gone again for the duration. I suspect this may be a result of a change in plotting midstream, as the setup is clearly jettisoned.

If you see the movie, watch the way the drunken and inappropriate Denzel is hired by Walken (and the husband). Clearly, the original story leaves it wide open as to whether Walken (Denzel's best friend) is part of the kidnapping. Given Denzel's promise to avenge the daughter and kill everyone involved, this could have (should have) been the highlight of the movie and I would bet dollars to donuts it was in the original script. (Will Denzel take it all the way and kill his best friend?) However, Tony Scott as usual tickles us with a feather then backs way off rather than really tackle what matters, instead focusing on faceless, cliched Mexican mafiosos.

Walken is always great but of late has been relegated to increasingly diminished supporting roles. He was terrific in a brief but brilliant CATCH ME IF YOU CAN appearance. In THE RUNDOWN he was all snarl and menace but again, a totally underwritten part. MAN ON FIRE cuts him back even further; he probably gets less than ten minutes in a 2.5 hour movie. There is a wonderful scene with Walken and his girl and Denzel, reminiscing about the past. In about sixty seconds Denzel and Walken create a believable bond (think of Shaw, Dreyfus and Scheider drinking and bonding below deck in JAWS) and suggest a relationship that should have been the centerpiece of the movie. Instead, Walken is again mere window dressing and is gone from the rest of the proceedings.

Rick Senger


 
 


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Re: Movie Mania

April 26 2004, 7:24 PM 

I agree on City of God - my girlfriend and I sat through it twice - it was awesome. I guess it helps that I'm a huge fan of Crime Fiction, but it was truly a thing of ugly beauty, if that makes any sense.

Don't take the kiddies, tho' - and sensitive viewers should probably avoid it. Grim stuff.

Mike O'Brien

 
 

The Mighty Mike N.
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Re: Movie Mania

April 27 2004, 4:44 AM 

I just got back from Man on Fire and I quite enjoyed it. My friend had read the book and said the film was true to the spirit but not the letter of it. The book ran along Punisher/Rambo lines and has the lead character taking out the Mafia in Italy over a period of years. Keeping it in Mexico and shortening the time frame worked to the film's favor. For once it is a film where no one is an idiot. And I do not think at all that it ran by the numbers.

Yes it could have used more Christopher Walken because he was excellent with what he had been given, but his character is a composite of about a dozen characters in the book. If Walken had somehow been turned into the final villain of the piece, then we would have been in a by the numbers film.

I honestly think it is a better film than both Kill Bills and don't mind being in the minority over that sentiment. I don't think most people will see past the surface of the story to the religious symbology underneath or care for it if they do see it, tonight I loved it.

Could have done without the flashy MTV zip-pan camera work, though. At least it wasn't done during expository moments.

Kudos to casting Radha Mitchell to play the mother... wow, she was hot! The acting was top notch throughout the entire film.

Mike Nebeker - Super Genuis
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