Explain something to me. I have seen my share of hardcore shows. I have just finished watching A.F.I's video for the leaving song v. 2.89.348.3 and I was just curious. WHAT THE FUCK IS WITH THIS NEW STYLE OF MOSHING???!!!! HIT SOMEBODY FOR FUCK SAKE. It's like they are all doing katta's in the pit...but, don't hit anybody...because that would be mean... If you windmill, windmill into somebodies fucking head...that's my rule...

I'M SO HARDCORE. ha pfft....

jebus.

once again...screamo, emo, whatever...just hit someone.
emu...it's an animal. a bird. not a style of music.

:)

quit watching television.

i hope you get your face beat in during one of your supercool hardcore shows. bleed bitch, bleed.

chad-its a country, not a nu-metal 'singer'

I want to join the lazarus machine. I'll give you all scene makeovers.

it will take many a trip to the thrifstore to convert the lazarus machine over to the scene-side

I wouldn't say we have a label. You can call us nu metal, but, that's a general statement. We aren't hardcore. We are just heavy music. And yes, if I bought really tight pants, and shirts that are 30 years old, I would be a scenester as well. But, I have only 2 tattoos that are over 5 years old, and I don't have piercings. So, I can't say I'm hardcore.

eh?
yeah.

i would say you sound like nu-metal
others would say you sound like nu-metal
your "manager" says you sound like nu-metal

you are nu-metal

we don't care what you call yourself. you are nu metal in our hearts.

HAHAHAHA

just to clear things up. I do want to say this.

If nu metal is simplekill, calm (<- assholes), korn, system, fear factory, soulfly, and etc. FINE...we are nu metal.

If nu metal is Trapt, Disturbed, Drowning Pool, etc... we aren't.

I scream too much for most radio play.
that's why I'm confused about the label. We aren't American Eagle wearing frat boys who play toned down metal so that we can be on TRL. I hate TRL. And I would like to make millions, but, not like that. Respect is worth more than money to me. And in the long run, it will pay off. Because if you are on TRL you are probably just a passing fad. But, if you have respect you might last a lifetime. I want to eventually make timeless music. IF I CAN. That remains to be seen, but, it would be nice.

I would like people to remember who we are not go "oh, yeah, don't they sing that song that goes..lalalala rah rah lalala...?"

but, like I said, I probably don't have that ability, but, it would be nice.

what is numetal? melodic metal? that could be hardcore...that could be screamo, that could be cheese metal, that could be 80's...


here's a label. WE ARE METAL.
our manager says we are numetal, just because I guess the label sells better, and it's her job to sell us. Music is a buisiness. She is a buisiness woman. Not a label maker I guess.

WHO THE FUCK CARES. This is just fun.

WE ARE FUN METAL. YEP
that's my story and I'm stickin to it

you don't want to be put in that genre nu metal because most kids on this board really don't dig that.

Let's not forget where you came from: kolera and reduced to nothing. nu metal? rapcore? or holiday's primary influences: slipknot and mudvayne...on your site it even says you started out playing these covers...


"metal"?? are your guitars and breakdowns metal enough? Would anyone on this board go to a show and say HOW METAL WAS THAT!!

no.

sorry, we have the fun metal category already covered

hahahahah..... YOU TOO FUNNY MAN. TOO FUuuuNNY.

we need spazz rock.

come on now. everyone give it up for chad. he is a hottie.

http://www.xanga.com/thelazarusmachine


your first post is fucked up

what band was this?
this band must be incredibly homosexual.

Alright, alright. I'm the scene master and here's what I have to say.

Nu metal is electronically influenced metal combined with the sing-a-long elements of grunge. It's what happened to rock when bands replaced guitar solos with a rapper or modified hype man screaming key lines in the backround of songs.

It's really very simply. Nu metal is not respectable. Playing music for money will never be an attractive quality to the people who really care about music. You won't be adored and admired by true music lovers if you are compared to korn and system of a down, because THEY are not music lovers themselves. They love talking about poop and sluts in pink leopard print cowboy hats. They're just not attractive, intelligent, or talented. Who would listen to mudvayne? They're named after a poop-filled intestine!!!

No one idolizes blatantly ugly people. The key players in nu metal are vile disgusting idiots, and no wants any sort of guilt by association with that. It's like.. say kkk members started a mainstream rock group and were suddenly everywhere, selling merch and shit. Would you wear their tshirts and sing their songs? Nu metal might as well be a stictly nazi genre when you're dealing with indie hipsters or hardcore kids. NO ONE wants to be associated with it. Listening to nu metal and wearing a limp bizkit tshirt to a show will get you either laughed at profusely, or beaten up. It's disgusting to fans of good or unique music, full of people making 13 dollars a show if they're lucky, and thinking that's awesome as long as they get free beer.

Nu metal just.. isn't good music. It's commercial shit. It's frat boys in jnco's and eyeliner talking about girls cheating on them and how they want to kill themselves over it. WE CAN'T RELATE TO THAT SHIT!

That's not a timeless sound. Mainstream rock music has already began to shy away from nu metal and embarace the comparably obnoxious alternative rock sound. I'm talking about the fifteen thousand bands that sound like Nickelback and Creed. Nobody wants to fit in with the greasy mallrats wearing slipknot tshirts and pentagrams, not even frat boys singing in nonsenical metaphors.

In conclusion..

You don't get layed listening to nu metal, and the little boys who can relate to what's being... "expressed"... by nu metal bands want to get laid. Bad.

Nu metal is for losers with no friends, who say things like "people=shit" and think that's great. It's for kids who want to name their children fucker because it would be sooo funny to have the name fucker called over the speaker in middle school.

Har har.

Nu metal ALL sucks, and it's not good to want to sound like korn. Stop singing altogether Chad, scream and play punk rock or something. For real. I've offered you a scene makeover, but YOU are an army of one. It's not too late to turn back.. away from the dark side. Abandon this nu metal dream and prove that you're not a complete cock rocker. Do something for the music instead of the prospect of money and a spot on Cribs.

dingus has a crush on jon davis of korn

I have a crush on your mother.

if you have a crush on my mother, you best be prepared to know how to please her.... she likes a lubed-up shaven head to be forced into her vagina.... she likes rancid pickled pig's feet projectile vomited onto her clitoris........ i will give you her cell #..........

i would say nu-metal is drop-tuned metal with an emphasis on rhythm guitar parts in the verse but sometimes simple chord changes in the chorus.

songs are in minor keys, and the rhythms stem from rap, rock, and metal. the drumming is heavily influenced by metal and hip hop.

nu-metal is embraced by the media, popular culture, and is promoted by over-commercialized music lables that release music that sells to a broad audience.

nu-metal lyrics are characterized by introspective, angry, and self-loathing themes popularized by trent reznor, kurt cobain, and jon davis.

as a genre, nu-metal was refreshing for maybe a year. it helped to thin out some of the boring grunge-derived bands in the early to mid 90s. however, the boring grunge and pearl jam bands are coming back again. this cycle is frightening. is rock stagnated now? is popular music locked in an endless cycle of horribly generic bands? will there always be a supposed answer and antithesis to generic music in the so-called "scene"?

woah i better stop before i reach FOG-level longwinddedness.

I have thought about this a lot too.. and in 5 years some underground kids will keep evolving the genre of nu metal until it is cool again. and the cycle repeats...it all repeats and evolves

the underground has in a fashion already recycled nu-metal music. the music that is referred to as hardcore copied a guitar riff style from the band korn.

listen to most any hardcore band to see what i am referring to.

namely, playing muted thudding notes on the open low strings, and alternating with high-pitched notes and chords in often disonnant intervals.

this goes to show that even the bands that are most rejected by scenester kids actually played a part in their musical development.

the comparison between nu metal and hardcore is uneccessary.. because it's obvious.

I listened to nu metal before I began listening to hardcore. I listened to nu metal because the cool kids in middle school did so as well, and the boy I liked was a "headbanger." I began listening to emo when my best friend's brother played in an emo band and I saw all the cool kids at their shows. I began listening to hardcore when I began dating derek, because he was in a hardcore band and I wanted to fit in.

Who has a story that's REALLY any different than that?

the fact of the matter is that nu metal isn't cool the way it used to be. hardcore and nu metal are similar because hardcore kids most likely listened to nu metal at some point, but grew past it. They found something cooler and more difinitive.

hopefully one day, they'll grow past hardcore as well.

Now THAT wasn't long winded, you son of a WHOREEE!

I am sorry. I was responding to the post by ms. rollo decks.

xeat-a-dickx

<3

shex is super smart

hardcore was known as something totally different a few years back..hardcore will always be SOMETHING. I used to try to be hardcore *duh*. But there is SO much out now. There are a few I have been listening to recently such as scarlet..zao. I guess I have fallen into emo by default. I'm glad you used to term "emo". Not because it's a kind of music but it makes things more understandable. (even though it's dumb to call music 'emo'.)

My "amazon wishlist" contains the libertines, raveonettes, rilo kiley, a.r.e. weapons, the rapture and the velvet underground..which ny dolls do you have?.....stuff I currently like are...new janes addiction and dandy warhols, at the drive in bands


when the grunge era comes back in full effect shoot me.

minus the ravonettes

I have the new york dolls lipstick killers album. it's.. you know.. the new york dolls. heh :) there's no better way to describe it.

I also want rilo kiley. I've been searching for that damn cd for weeks but none of my usual record stops have it. perhaps I'll have to give up and order it online..

eh, but probably not.

I loathe the raveonettes.

Not only is shex super smart, but he is super single. Also, he is one of the most promising emo bands in florida!

hmm looks like we got some competition.

mcgriddles from mcdonalds are also good.
yes I will be ordering from Amazon.com . Haven't seen rilo kiley anywhere!

Shex's emo band is like wow. so good. like if jesus was a groupie, he'd be shex's bandwhore. and OMG they are so hott.

If you get the Rilo Kiley cd, make me a copy until I can find one for sale!

NP! I'll make copies of whatever I get.. probably buy them this weekend. anything for you. ohhh yes. also making a themed mix cds. because i'm bored.

just becuase you actually dropped the names of those bands (calm, disturbed, etc) show that you are really a douchebag. and just becuase you even considered yourself for radio airplay further proves you are a complete and supergay douchebag.

just because I don't want to starve for the rest of my life, makes me a douche bag. You are a douche bag.

Once again. You are a fucking lame-0, why? Because I WANT TO MAKE MONEY MAKING MUSIC. Who doesn't want to be on the radio? Now granted I don't want to be on 93.3 or 97.9, but, I do enjoy the fact that 88.5 and 97.1 is already playing our music. WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT? Oh, I'm a sell out if people hear my music. Not just 4 cool people on a webboard? Come on. Just because a bunch of idiots like something doesn't make something suck. All of you people are missing the point.

I'm sure you like a specific movie. I'm sure there are alot of idiots out there that like that specific movie. Now, does it suck? no, because people are going to like what they like. And just because a bunch of impressionable kids like something doesn't make it suck. It sucks if it sucks. I think you people are too worried about what is cool. I think there are some songs, movies, clothes that are cool. Just because rappers, rednecks, mallrats, fratboys, or sluts, etc...think its cool, I'm not going to stop liking it.

I appreciate me, because I don't try to be cool. I just like what I like, and if it isn't cool, then fuck it. fuck em. because I have alot less stress enjoying what I want, when I don't put others opinions on it.


you can use the retort "well, you always try to rationalize that you are (*insert whatever here that is "cool") . But, honestly, it's for fun. I really don't take this webboard seriously.

Thank you for the entertainment. That's all it is folks. ENTERTAINMENT.

Chad

and the reason I sighted the bands I did, was because if you lived in tampa, those are the bands you get force fed on a daily basis here.

*cited.

A whole lot of people think american pie is funny, and the matrix is a good movie.

A whole lot of nazi bands play punk and metal.

A whole lot of people enjoy slipknot and walk around the mall in eye liner and jnco jeans.

A whole lot of of people think money or fame proves they're worth something.

A whole lot of tampa bands produce terrible music and a whole lot of people like mr.carr think that just because you're in a band you deserve respect.

well a WHOLE lot of people suck.

I rest my case.

And on another note-

I heart emo boys, who the heck are you? aimee?

and thanks for the hook up! I'll be expecting that cd so you best recognize, dawg.

Correction ms. corrector.

I don't base success on money and fame.
Society does.

But, I said I want to make money making music. So that, that is the only thing I HAVE to do for the rest of my life.

Not be on MTV cribs.

I don't expect respect. I would like it.

You confuse me with an image in your mind.

I just have dreams. I will keep my dreams thank you.

eh
CHad

yeah duh...no this is jde...
chad ...all bands secretly only want to make money, yes, it's nothing new. but bands that I or anyone who 'doesn't suck' know that to make this money they have to do so w/o giving the impression of that on webboards or elsewhere.
making money is not a reason to play music. at least not good music.
nor is gaining respect as adena has said.

Oh yeah. those bands you named, all good, seperately..but they are all so broad. confusing.
and yes some people like asparagus. some people like cow. some people like food. some people like to eat food and puke it back up whilst having sess. hmmm food...

you can't pass judgement on a book by the first page, nor can you do the same with a person and a paragraph.

you both have my AIM's. Talk to me.

Your view of me is wrong. simple.

sorry.

and i don't think anyone really cares about genres..hxc or w/e. they just play music from what they know and get placed somewhere

People play the music they play for one of a few reasons-

to make money and get famous.

to be cool.

because it's what they wrote and it's something they like and think sounds good.

sex.

shits and giggles. like my favorite band super happy fun american tv family death challenge (they're emo).

playing music to make money just is not respectable. it only gives fans the impression that the musicians are using them. it leaves fans inequal to performers, and people who like music want personal interaction and a feeling of similarity between themselves and the band they're spending money to support.

now, I don't like fugazi, and everyone knows what great indie rock heroes they are already and blah blah. BUT, it's a true story. they never played nu metal or had a music video with crying teenagers in beenies. they never sold out and overcharged their fans for the sake of getting a huge paycheck and narrating a vh1 countdown.

mr.lazaruschad, what's more important to you? fame and money, or respect? you can't have them both, not realistically. the white stripes got fucked into endorsing virgin mobel, and rebelled against it like hell. they rebelled against recording in a large studio and they STILL use equipment that's older than they are. would you do that? and how much do you value your fans? would you be happy having a bunch of ugly kids with acne and pentagrams or people=shit shirts loving you?

would THAT make you feel successful with your music?

using old equipment is somewhat fashionable.
it is more expensive to buy, maintain, and replace.
oh ive got a "vintage" blah and a "1965" bah.
using old equipment is often less of a sacrifice and more of a luxury.

we are not emo.
we are gnu-metal.

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Is Chad cool? dunno, don't know you. Are you a douchebag? yes, i am sure of that fact. Am I going to stop calling you a douchebag becuase you think it isn't cool? hell no. I don't really care what you like or what you are like. just shut up cause you are a douchebag. and you talk too much...you douchebag.

Chad will not be available for comment. As the official representative for The Lazarus Machine&reg;, I decline to respond to your obviously wrong and unamerican point of view.

Check out The Lazarus Machine&reg; on 88.5 FM
They rawk.

ok, now let me tell you how it works in the real world. You can play music, try to be the purist artist who doesn't charge people, or want to make a music video or whatnot...and starve.

I would like to make music, and not worry about paying my bills, and have my girlfriend/wife, etc...complaining that I'm chasing a pipe dream, and I will never make anything of myself. "GO OUT AND GET A REAL JOB."

or I can do this, market the band correctly. Not offend too many people, and still break even.

NOT BE A RICH BASTARD.

JUST PAY MY BILLS.

DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND PLAIN ENGLISH?

when you get into this, and have a band, and you want it to go somewhere, it has to make money, otherwise the older you get, the more chances of kids, mortgages, insurance payments will force you to focus more on bills and less on music, forcing your bandmates to work more, play less, and forget our dreams.

wake up. We aren't teenagers, I'm pushing 30, and I'll be damned if I'm broke just play music. I would like to eat, and have a place to live, and some stuff to call my own.

Lots of people play music and still manange to.. you know.. live and eat and own stuff.

like practically EVERYONE who is arguing with you. No one's getting accussed of chasing a pipe dream, no one's dying on the street. no one's not merrily getting by.

you see chad, you have chosen a position for yourself in the music scene. you have chosen to play the style you play, be it nu metal or some undefined genre, and you have chosen to talk about wanting to make money (regardless of whether it's a small or large amount). You brag to stand up for your argument , and you will be judged by your tastes and style or who you play with.

It's not our fault and no one has misinterpretted you. You are not emo, hardcore, punk, or an indie rocker. You are in a band that plays mainstream rock, and we don't like that. I doubt anyone is on the verge of being convinced that your band is something they'd like or that you're not acting like a rockstar.

you can't squeeze blood from a stone.

ps: I'm done with this conversation. It's redundant and makes me want to die.

I understand chad and I think that it's okay.

I want to drown you in a sea of blood squeezed from a stone.

*drowns in blood*

does anyone know CPR?????????!!!!!!!!11
we need 10cc's of soy milk STAT
stand back! (air)

CLEAR!!
*thump*
CLEAR!!
*thump*
CLEAR!!
*thump*
CLEAR!!
*thump*

(cough / sputter / spittle / etc)

*is revived*

thanks keelber!

*is revived*

thanks keebler!!

The subject is stable, but seems to be repeating phrases. Perhaps there was some minor brain damage.
The possible cause? Asphyxiation and asterisk overuse.
Perhaps a healthy dose of other forms of punctuation may help.

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heh heh heh

Instead of always having to analyze music to death, why don't you just listen to whatever the hell you like and enjoy it, and respect that everyone has different preferences in music. that's like people discriminating on you because of what you look like.

It's all about equality, this world would be fucking boring if everyone listened to the same music and dressed the same!

P.S. this post was not addressed to anyone in particular.

Ah ok. now that we have approval we'll ALL start listening to what we really like and stop pretending! Yay!

this post isn't adressed to anyone in particular.

i like nu-metal and pop punk bands
i especially like linkin park and awesome bands in this new style of hard rock called hardcore

I like good charlotte. they are so hot, and now I finally feel comfortable admitting that I love them so much.

I agree, just listen to whatever you like.

Who cares, it's like "the SEEN" has taken over this webboard.

If you are NU-Metal you aren't cool because of mallrats.

If you are Emo you aren't cool because it isn't hard enough.

If you are Hardcore you aren't cool because it's so cut and pasty, and so close to being numetal, that mallrat kids might like it one day.

WHO FUCKING CARES. If a song touches you, albeit country, rap, punk, pop, what the fuck ever...just listen, you don't have to take on the values, and belief systems of the scene (whichever it may be) just enjoy the music.

You people are so worried about being cool you don't even hear yourselves dissing the people who are
FUCKING REAL.

people on this board aren't concerned with the scene. Whoever mentions the word scene is concerned with the scene. just listen to what you like. you know, 'stay what you are'.

Chad, maybe you should try budgeting your money. Start thrift shopping and maybe go on welfare? Welfare could be the new thrift shopping, whoa...girls don't like boys girls like cars and money?

But keep playing good music, it's a one shot deal in the real world. also suck up to the right people and have these people at your shows every night. hm. I really haven't much to write anymore...

OH UM CHAD IS A ROCK STAR
FUCKING ROCK STAR

....

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

for fuck's sake. no one caes about the damn scene. what you don't understand is WE DON'T LIKE NU-METAL. IT DOES NOT TOUCH US OR MAKE US FEEL. no one is saying it sucks because it's popular.. we're saying it sucks because it is not pleasing to the ear. the music is shitty, the lyrics are dumb, and the people are ugly.

so please. stop. you HAVE to understand this is nothing personal. some people don't like nu-metal.

ok, now I'll post damn it.

See you are trying to irritate me.

1. We aren't nu-metal. We aren't anything typical.
2. Whom ever is saying this obviously has never seen us live. Or heard anything recent.
3. I don't care about your ideals.
4. I'm not a rockstar, I'm just not content being broke.
5. I was in the military, which until recently hadn't set in this desire to acheive as much as can, till here lately.
6. Maybe you are content playing your music to 4 people or to Sebring, or whathave you and that makes you proud. Not me.

I will not kiss ass. I will not sell out. And to be honest.

JUST SHUT UP.

You don't know what you are talking about.
You have no clue what the REAL music industry is about. I have been around BIG bands, and little bands, and I'm not going to let some blank face on a webboard try and dictate my morals.

you think I want money. I think you want acceptance.
yes, I want money. LOTS OF IT. I WANT TO BE FILTHY FUCKING RICH. BUT NEVER...I SAY NEVER WILL I EVER BREAK MY IDEALS TO DO SO.

I'm not weak, I've been me since day one. ASK AIMEE. I hate to admit it. but, she does know that. I HAVE NEVER CHANGED WHO I AM. I will always strive to acheive more.

nu metal is such a fucking catch phrase to you people...last week it was rapcore...next week it will be emo...if you actually think that something is as big of a deal as a label...you are just as bad as those little mallrats who cry PEOPLE=SHIT.

it's a catch phrase, but, it's true, and you are living proof.

Thank You,
I'm going to hang out with people who don't all think alike.

CHad

Your crowd, your show, your band (who you are not speaking for, you're only defending yourself), is not anything new or unique. I have not been to a show. Even if it's not 'nu metal', it IS typical to "us". face it and suck up and get your scene makeover.

See, you're just angry because we know more about:

*general show appeal
*what WOULD make the money in the music industry
*how to be an esteemed musician
*how to write music which evokes feeling
*what BIG bands TRUELY are
*and the right decisions in music marketing are

than you.

I'd hate to reprezent sebring, but for touring band members it's not that bad to come home to.

you HAVE always been the same person. good. we like you that way. But I haven't seen any trendsetting qualities in that person.

You are always bringing up the military as if it's an out, and you're not going to get respect by saying you're going to join... then you tell me you're going to start some emo band with your gf..um, EW. At any rate, it doesn't sound as if you know what you want or even what you're talking about.

stop labeling all this music and just play it. music is not a catch phrase. the past 10 years of it isn't some fad.

Just as classical music isn't.


~rich with a wealth of harmonics, their tremulous chorus mounted towards a climax, louder and ever louder-until at last, with a wave of his hand, the conductor let loose the final shattering note of ether-music and blew the sixteen merely hunman blowers clean out of existence. Thunder in A flat major. And then, in all but silence, in all but darkness, there followed a gradual deturgescense, a dimunendo sliding gradually, through quarter tones, down, down to a fainty whispered dominant chord that lingered on charging the darkened seconds with an intense expectancy. There was a sudden explosive sunrise...~

OMG OMG OMG

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

and once more for the road:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

mr.e.chad, just get the fuck over it! so you say you're not nu-metal, well WE do. you're fucking nu-metal, dude! so what! if you think it rocks, then keep on a-rocking the nu-metal flava flav.

NO ONE CARES HOW YOU LABEL YOURSELF! should I apologize for the fact that we do not like the same music as you, and for thinking your music sucks? NO! WE DON'T LIKE NU-METAL, and there's nothing you can do to change that!

My god! Just give up!

there are five basic webboard truths.

1 chad will never give up
2 aimee will never give up
3 dingus will never give up
4 keebler will never cease to be amused
5 bo jangles will never cease to be arousing

What about MoeJangles, you cant forget him or his feelings might get hurt... :(

Yeah. He is a very sensitive young man.
Never EVER forget mr MoeJangles.
Or he will make you remember.

wif his knifey!

ok, once again...you can't compare aldous huxley to modern music.

BRAVE NEW WORLD?

come on...aimee be original.

The segment was about classical music and the fact that no music is just a catch phrase. There was much 'feeling' to that quote. I'm glad that you used whatever search engine to look up the words and make yourself look smart, but your music still is nu metal. NEENER.

Chad stop posting anonymously. We know every post that you write by your words.. albeit, 'aimee be original' 'laz machine is not nu metal'. shut up you're not going to prove yourself..

I'd like to drown you in a sea of your own semen.

go suck a fuck

Well, good for you.

You have proven your ignorance once again.

Everyone, just to disspel some very obvious stupid remarks:

A. TLM is a NuMetal Band - This information coming from people who haven't seen us in 2 years. OK (wink-wink)

B. Chad only cares about money, not music - hmm, half of TLM's shows have been a very small payout, and if you are only truly about the music, you should never charge for shows, or take a dime...just set up a charity...then it is truly only for the music.

C. Aimee and Adena know it all - Adena makes wise points most of the time, whilst Aimee haplessly tells on herself by suggesting that Chad (who DID graduate college) picked up BRAVE NEW WORLD on the internet..hence, suggesting she actually acquired it there.

D. Chad doesn't give up. - Military, College, Jail, Slutty Girlfriends, Bad 2 faced friends. I should have taken Aimee's advice and "kill myself and save the world" (I never get that ADWD quote correct) WAIT! ANOTHER AIMEE RIP OFF.

Aimee's words are Adena's...
Adena's words are nice until I say something that we don't agree on.

DOES ANY OF THIS MATTER?
NO
IS IT ENTERTAINING TO EVERYONE?
YES

GOOD,
I'm out.

hmmmm....retarded

why yes...yes, you are.

GOD I rule the sk00l!

I am mighty. I am wise.

I think that we should end this quarrel.. it's quite simple. aimee and chad can continue to mock one another, but whether or not the lazarus machine is nu-metal will NEVER be brought up again.

sorry chad, but I can't promise you won't be called a rockstar for wanting even the smallest amounts of money. you have to understand that our scene is not your scene. in our scene, a musician anouncing a desire for payment deserves mockery and disrespect. it's a source of confusion and militant displeasure. a fact that must be considered is WE here don't listen to lazarus machine style music.. you guys and us guys will never agree when it's all simplified down to basic values instilled upon all of us by our own scenes. scenes.. not SEENS. mother fuck that.

we should agree to disagree. we're like democrats and republicans. only you are the damn republicans here.

so.. sound good? because I'm sick of this thread. I want to talk about something else.

~everything that was once cool is now deck.

go back to your limp bizkit nu-metal "concerts" and go push and hit people there there isent any pushing at a hardcore show hardcore is all about danceing and good evil mosh parts you are not "hardcore" and you will never be "hardcore" you and your band is nu-metal so stop trying to deny it and just go with it mosh it up fuckers ohh yeah chad you will die